CFP Thread

[MaximumSam]

I'm wrong for wanting a lie to end.

So sorry.

I just want the games to matter.

So sorry.

[Cincydawg]

I can't see how bowl games can really matter much at all, aside from to fans of the teams.  It's nice when your 9-3 team wins of course, you can claim a 10 win season, but in reality, nobody else cares.  Folks watch on TV because of the usual.  The team gets extra practice time.  Your younger players get a shot at some PT often as not.  

But do I think it matters that BYU beat Tech?  Nope.

[Cincydawg]

Now, in the CFP, I get the point, we see the G5s USUALLY getting hammered, and the game is predictable.  But not always, at least in the first round.  I'm OK with one G5 getting in, it resolves some legal issues.

[OrangeAfroMan]

On bowls:
In 1973, there were 11 bowls.  So 22 teams were in the club of "we had a very good season."  It was prestigious.  It did matter.  It helped a HC have more respect.  It was additional exposure.  Sellouts or near-sellouts.  Bowl swag for players.  Warm-weather locations to enjoy.

vs

bowls are so meaningless, teams are turning them down
some are in freezing environs 
no exclusivity
flooding the market, one is the same as another
no one in the stands

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I guess it doesn't truly matter.  But nothing really does.  But if given the 2 options, who is actively choosing the latter?  

[Cincydawg]

TV revenue is the answer for any of this.

[Brutus Buckeye]

On bowls:
In 1973, there were 11 bowls.  So 22 teams were in the club of "we had a very good season."  It was prestigious.  It did matter.    

Now it's 12 that make the CFP. Even more prestigious. 

[OrangeAfroMan]

TV revenue is the answer for any of this.

Sure.

But have things always been this way?  Oh, I can make an extra dollar, so I'm going to do it.
Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Like gun ownership without training.
Like having kids.

People make money on all these AI videos and nonsense, but don't we all just wish they didn't?  Being allowed to do something doesn't mean you should do it.

[Cincydawg]

Money has always been a prime motivator.  

[MarqHusker]

What about the lie of "Look, they're 11-1! They're SOOO good!"

When 9 of the teams on their schedule didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the game.

You demand the patsies stick around so you don't have teams with records ranging 7-5 to 9-3 getting into playoffs in a league with actual parity, but then want the patsies to know their place and shut up once the playoff rolls around.

Meanwhile,  the NFL may have a team waltz into the playoffs as a 4seed  having lost 7 of last 9 games if they win next week.

[OrangeAfroMan]

Maybe letting the masses (and yes, their dollars) determine how you do things isn't the best plan.

There should be a middle ground between competition and entertainment.  We've collectively gone off the deep end of entertainment and are no longer concerned with the competitive aspect.

I'm just saying, "hey, maybe that's not a great way to do it."

[bayareabadger]

Maybe letting the masses (and yes, their dollars) determine how you do things isn't the best plan.

There should be a middle ground between competition and entertainment.  We've collectively gone off the deep end of entertainment and are no longer concerned with the competitive aspect.

I'm just saying, "hey, maybe that's not a great way to do it."

We should let the perpetually complaining determine it! And do so in a way that makes it less like basically every other sport!!!

(It’s a bit funny that “competitive” is being used to reduce the competitive aspect, but doing to for the sake of entertainment)

[OrangeAfroMan]

So college football is way better for the fan today than it was 30 years ago?

Mkay.  

Only complaining because the changes suck.  Thanks.

[bayareabadger]

So college football is way better for the fan today than it was 30 years ago?

Mkay. 

Only complaining because the changes suck.  Thanks.

In some ways yeah, in others no. 

But the true complainer’s heart finds a way! 

The competition/competitive interplay is interesting. A truer “competition” may in fact be less competitive. 

[MaximumSam]

Maybe letting the masses (and yes, their dollars) determine how you do things isn't the best plan.

There should be a middle ground between competition and entertainment.  We've collectively gone off the deep end of entertainment and are no longer concerned with the competitive aspect.

I'm just saying, "hey, maybe that's not a great way to do it."

My issue is your "solution" conveniently aligns perfectly with what the money people want. You are the masses, here. Screw the little guy, make most of the games meaningless to ensure the biggest teams get the rewards at the end of the season. It's all there.