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« Reply #252 on: Today at 03:45:08 PM »
You are learning.  Fundamentally, EVERYTHING bad is Michigan's fault. 
and/or Oklahoma, don't sleep on the Sooners
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« Reply #253 on: Today at 04:05:35 PM »

I’m going to miss the first half of the game because I’m seeing a movie. Interested to see what it looks like when I get out.

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« Reply #254 on: Today at 04:32:57 PM »
Well, of course it's true. But we live in the lie where FBS is all one entity despite the fact that we all know 80% of the population schools have zero chance.

So, just please, pull the fucking plug, break the top 30-40 schools off into their own division, and put the rest of us out of our misery.
We can make it 40-60 schools if we wanted, actually putting them on equal footing.  
But we won't.
Whoever the hell the actual decision-makers are seem hell-bent on making college football as close to NFL as possible, while offering a lesser product.  
Brilliant.

The differences made college football special.  

Now, it's like a girl who is a 9 out of 10 at a part always standing next to the only girl who is hotter than her the whole night.  
Brilliant.
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« Reply #255 on: Today at 04:37:19 PM »
We can make it 40-60 schools if we wanted, actually putting them on equal footing. 
But we won't.
Whoever the hell the actual decision-makers are seem hell-bent on making college football as close to NFL as possible, while offering a lesser product. 
Brilliant.
But that's the point. The actual decision makers (the top 20 schools or so) don't want to put 40-60 schools on an equal footing, because that would be elevating 20-40 schools to the same level as those top 20 that make decisions. 

That's what the NFL is. Draft. Salary cap. CBA. Specific rules about free agency, trade compensation, etc. It's a system that's designed to have parity and give everyone a chance. 

What the top 20 schools want is an easy path to beat up on 9-11 uncompetitive schools every year and pad their win totals and only have 1-3 games that they might actually have a chance of losing. 

If anything, that will be the reason that they keep the new top division to have 40-60 schools, but they'll do EVERYTHING in their power to make sure that the bottom half to 2/3s of those schools aren't anywhere near equal footing. 

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« Reply #256 on: Today at 04:40:59 PM »
Right, and that would be trying to somewhat keep the status quo, albeit less severely.  I think it's a good idea.

But as long as every school in the conference is getting the same big bucket of money, you can claim it's okay.
The have-nots have their utility, and they can rise up every so often. 

At least it's better than the big, fat lie we've always have and continue to perpetuate with G5 teams.
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« Reply #257 on: Today at 06:29:27 PM »
But that's the point. The actual decision makers (the top 20 schools or so) don't want to put 40-60 schools on an equal footing, because that would be elevating 20-40 schools to the same level as those top 20 that make decisions.

That's what the NFL is. Draft. Salary cap. CBA. Specific rules about free agency, trade compensation, etc. It's a system that's designed to have parity and give everyone a chance.

What the top 20 schools want is an easy path to beat up on 9-11 uncompetitive schools every year and pad their win totals and only have 1-3 games that they might actually have a chance of losing.

If anything, that will be the reason that they keep the new top division to have 40-60 schools, but they'll do EVERYTHING in their power to make sure that the bottom half to 2/3s of those schools aren't anywhere near equal footing.

Purdue has the exact same bloated TV deal as OSU and Michigan. 

Act like it. 

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« Reply #258 on: Today at 07:17:54 PM »
Purdue has the exact same bloated TV deal as OSU and Michigan.

Act like it.
Yes, and that exact same bloated TV deal has absolutely nothing to do with NIL, and the university can't spend that money on NIL. Up until this year, revenue sharing wasn't allowed, so absolutely none of that money could be spent paying players directly. And even now that it can, the money on direct payment to athletes is capped and equal across B1G schools, while NIL is not capped nor equal in any way. 

Acting like TV revenues equalize everything is exactly the sort of "born on third base and claiming you hit a triple" behavior that the rest of college football hates the helmet teams for. It's the lack of realization that literally everything in the structure of the sport advantages you, and disadvantages us, and acting like one tiny little thing that's equal will make it possible to overcome. 

(Oh, and I'd be remiss not to mention that the discussions that we've had on this board about PE investment is to give outsized returns to teams like OSU and Michigan... I'm assuming you're completely against that idea, in favor of parity?)

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« Reply #259 on: Today at 07:25:45 PM »
Indiana is the number one team in the country. 

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« Reply #260 on: Today at 07:26:32 PM »
One tiny thing? There might be five teams outside of the Big Ten/SEC that can move enough merchandise to make up the difference. Notre Dame, Florida State... maybe Miami and Clemson. 

Congrats, you are in the top 40. In the CFB landscape you are a billionaire complaining that you don't have as much money as Bill Gates. 

You are born on third base, pretending you got struck out looking.

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« Reply #261 on: Today at 07:42:44 PM »
Indiana is the number one team in the country.
Thanks, Mark Cuban!

One tiny thing? There might be five teams outside of the Big Ten/SEC that can move enough merchandise to make up the difference. Notre Dame, Florida State... maybe Miami and Clemson.

Congrats, you are in the top 40. In the CFB landscape you are a billionaire complaining that you don't have as much money as Bill Gates.

You are born on third base, pretending you got struck out looking.

Listen, I don't deny the advantage that Purdue has being in the B1G. We're lucky that the B1G doesn't toss members to the sharks, because if they did, we'd have been jettisoned long ago. 

But this is the difference... In the NFL, you have a HARD salary cap, you have a draft, you have a CBA. You have everything in the world that exists to ensure parity. That generally means that if one owner has $400B and another owner has a "mere" $10B, the teams will still be equal.

This isn't the case in MLB, which is why big-market teams like the Yankees and the Dodgers beat the piss out of everyone else. In other sports, those who have the most money have the best rosters. 

In college, it's that taken to its logical extreme. If you have a "mere" $10B and your competition is Gates/Musk/Bezos/Buffett level wealth, they can outbid you for every single player, every single time, and barely even feel a pinch at all to the nut. That is a STRUCTURAL imbalance. Elite players are a finite resource, and the rich(est) can buy as many as they want, starving the rest of talent. That's how it works. The top programs already get the top HS recruits. Now with NIL and unrestricted transfer portal, they buy the top transfers, so any lesser program who identifies "under the radar" talent loses that talent. 

Purdue is advantaged... Maybe even born on first base. That's a long way away from scoring compared to the programs born on third base. 

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« Reply #262 on: Today at 08:10:56 PM »
Okay, born might be a little strong.

You were walked to third base, and pretend that you got struck out looking. 

Using the MLB example, there are small market teams that are competitive because they have good front offices. There are large market teams that are dumpster fires, because they have poor front offices. The big market teams have a built in advantage, but it's far from a guarantee that they will be good. Vice versa. 


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« Reply #263 on: Today at 08:28:29 PM »
Love the homefields on these. Would love if they moved all the games to homefield except the championship...maybe. 

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« Reply #264 on: Today at 09:02:23 PM »
So far the one team that was clearly undeserving is showing it. Let's see if they can get it turned around. Or maybe Deboer is just shooting himself to Michigan.

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« Reply #265 on: Today at 09:06:14 PM »
Looks about like a Michigan team right now. 

 

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