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MikeDeTiger

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Re: CFP Thread
« Reply #826 on: January 22, 2026, 12:37:34 PM »
After last season in the CFB, there was a feeling that only the completely deserving can run the playoff table. But looking at this year's results, that is less obvious. Miami didn't win its conference championship, and was a questionable add to the pool. It was a couple of good/bad bounces from winning the title. Miami made it into the final without playing a conference champion. IU--a deserving national title winner, don't get me wrong--also played no conference champions on the way to its title. With the one-and-done format in football, there is a much higher probability that, like has happened in the NFL, a wild-card team--one that squeaks its way into the playoff--will win the national title. While they will have won the games that mattered, will they have deserved to be there? Were they, in fact, one of the very best in college football that year, or did they just get hot at the right moment, and perhaps get lucky with the right matchups in the playoffs?


This goes back to a discussion I've had for years here and elsewhere.  My contention has always been that the old bowl system or BCS system (maybe even 4-team playoff) was not just the arbitrary beauty pageant it was purported to be, but it sought to reward the team with the best season.  It was a sport where "champion" attempts to equal "team that had the best year."  Whereas the NFL with it's playoff format moreso sought to reward the hottest team at the end.  Maybe it could be said they were the best team by the end.  Different definition of "champion" and/or "top team" for that year.  I consider both of them valid ways of looking for a singular "champion" since I'm very heavy on the "M" in MNC. 

I liked that cfb had something different to offer than the NFL.  In a world where it's not obvious what the correct way of determining a champion is, or if there even is a correct way, it was neat to see two different levels of the game do it different ways.  We got to see it play out multiple ways.  Of late, it seems like cfb is doing everything in its power to be just like the NFL, and that, to me, is much more boring in that they're starting to define "winner" the same way. 

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Re: CFP Thread
« Reply #827 on: January 22, 2026, 01:01:49 PM »
Well, 

You simply have to ask yourself " What is the purpose of Pro Ball", be it baseball, football, or basketball?  

The answer is simply "Advertising".  


For CFB, for a long time, it was to benefit the students and the school, but now, it's mostly for advertising.  

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« Reply #828 on: January 22, 2026, 01:03:59 PM »

This goes back to a discussion I've had for years here and elsewhere.  My contention has always been that the old bowl system or BCS system (maybe even 4-team playoff) was not just the arbitrary beauty pageant it was purported to be, but it sought to reward the team with the best season.  It was a sport where "champion" attempts to equal "team that had the best year."  Whereas the NFL with it's playoff format moreso sought to reward the hottest team at the end.  Maybe it could be said they were the best team by the end.  Different definition of "champion" and/or "top team" for that year.  I consider both of them valid ways of looking for a singular "champion" since I'm very heavy on the "M" in MNC. 

I liked that cfb had something different to offer than the NFL.  In a world where it's not obvious what the correct way of determining a champion is, or if there even is a correct way, it was neat to see two different levels of the game do it different ways.  We got to see it play out multiple ways.  Of late, it seems like cfb is doing everything in its power to be just like the NFL, and that, to me, is much more boring in that they're starting to define "winner" the same way. 
Agree.  It's why I've always been fine with conferences being different sizes from one another, and determining their conference championships in different ways than one another, and I'm also fine with there being Independents.

Every move in CFB now is just getting that much closer to the NFL, which aside from a few games per season, I stopped watching decades ago. Because it bores me.

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« Reply #829 on: January 22, 2026, 01:21:57 PM »
So far, in every American professional league, there is still some regular season-based cutoff for who deserves a shot in the playoffs. What's the point of tha cutoff, if not to determine who is good enough to be eligible. But maybe ELA's all-team, double elimination tournament is the right answer? Not for me, but it solves this particular riddle.

And to repeat something I've said many times before, which is the better team? Team a played every other team in the league twice, once away, once at home. Team A won 90% of its games, more than any other team in the league (each of them playing every other team twice, home and away). Team b beat team a both times they played, but overall it won 50% of the time. I think the answer is obvious: team a is the better team. But it may be that team b matches its strengths better against team a's weaknesses than any other team. So in that matchup, team b is superior; but against the entire league, team a is superior. Team a should logically--to my mind--be the league champion. That is the standard international football recipe. But that's an extreme example, and doesn't equate for things that happen over the course of the season that can impact a game here or there. For that reason, I think playoffs make sense to crown champions--and, in any case, the point in sports is to win. So taking the best cohort of teams and making them play each other makes sense for crowning a champion. But should team b, in my example have a shot at the title, assuming it is a middle-of-the-pack team? I don't think so.

As utee and I have both already said, we've talked about this many times over the years, and my opinion doesn't matter to CFB. But I think 24 is too many. 12 probably is, too, but it's at least closer to defensible.

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Re: CFP Thread
« Reply #830 on: January 22, 2026, 01:47:54 PM »
The Euro-soccer no playoff crap might crown the most "deserving" champion, but it's boring as hell. 

I'm grateful that we have playoffs here. 

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« Reply #831 on: January 22, 2026, 01:49:01 PM »
remember how mad everyone would get when somebody 'wasn't even the conference champion!!!!!' or in the CCG game, yet in the BCS/playoff.
such quaint times.

we're not far away from NFL levels with 8-9 teams hosting playoff games.

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« Reply #832 on: January 22, 2026, 01:57:07 PM »
Now people are annoyed if a conference champion gets in over a three-loss Texas team. 

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« Reply #833 on: January 22, 2026, 02:12:56 PM »
I'm grateful that we have playoffs here.
I agree, but I don't think everyone should get to play in the playoff.

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« Reply #834 on: January 22, 2026, 02:15:30 PM »
Is there a league that allows everyone to play in the playoffs? 

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« Reply #835 on: January 22, 2026, 02:31:09 PM »
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« Reply #836 on: January 22, 2026, 02:49:18 PM »
Is there a league that allows everyone to play in the playoffs?
Not that I'm aware of (aside from low-level youth sports). So how to decide who is worthy of entry into the playoff? Is it just the point of negligible gains in TV revenue?

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« Reply #837 on: January 22, 2026, 03:25:32 PM »
Well,

You simply have to ask yourself " What is the purpose of Pro Ball", be it baseball, football, or basketball? 

The answer is simply "Advertising". 


For CFB, for a long time, it was to benefit the students and the school, but now, it's mostly for advertising. 
It also mostly was still for advertising. advertising the school, often filling stadiums, etc. 

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« Reply #838 on: January 22, 2026, 03:32:14 PM »
the purpose of most things is money $$$
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Re: CFP Thread
« Reply #839 on: January 22, 2026, 07:45:49 PM »

 

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