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Topic: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State

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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2021, 07:04:44 PM »
What is this sorcery? Your reverse jinx won’t work here. Saban has already sold his soul to the devil.
Urbz outbid him in '14,course Dabster being tight with Jesus and all couldn't be touched.He should replace Judas as the "12th" ranking Disciple
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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2021, 07:09:55 PM »

Yeah. I'd throw $100 at that line easy.
I'd throw a lot more,fearless would get the itch too
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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2021, 07:20:24 PM »
Bringing up 2014 make me look at that year really quickly, and I mentioned Arizona LB Scooby Wright's season on the Heisman thread.  He did win the Bednarik, Nagurski, and Lombardi awards....but not the Butkus.  
That went to another LB on a Pac-12 team with a nearly identical record, to a guy with 20 fewer tackles, 20 fewer TFL, and 11 fewer sacks.  I guess it was the 3 INTs that got him the Butkus.  
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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2021, 07:26:32 PM »
I'd throw a lot more,fearless would get the itch too
yup, I didn't think -20 was enough vs the Irish, but the Bucks are a much better team than the Irish
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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2021, 07:33:32 PM »
 I mentioned Arizona LB Scooby Wright's season on the Heisman thread.  He did win the Bednarik, Nagurski, and Lombardi awards....but not the Butkus.
He reminded me of Jay Lehman former Illini LB - all world at the collegiate level.Didn't work out on Sundays
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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2021, 09:06:36 PM »
Ok. ESPN has the Buckeyes as the toughest opponent for Alabama this year. Claiming Alabama would only win 67% of the time.

A&M was the next toughest 'bama had a 74% chance to beat them.

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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2021, 09:46:05 PM »
He reminded me of Jay Lehman former Illini LB - all world at the collegiate level.Didn't work out on Sundays
That reminds me of Teddy Lehman, former All-American LB for OU.....
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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2021, 10:24:25 PM »
that reminds me of "The Boz"
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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2021, 11:19:12 AM »
I read somewhere that 'bama is looking to shatter NFL draft records by sending 17 guys this April.
And 42 of their for the 44 two deep should get selected in the next 3 drafts.

(How would you like to be 1 of the 2 guys currently not projected to play on Sundays, any bets those back ups get their draft stock updated, or they get replaced next year?)

NO WAY OSU can hang with an all NFL Team.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/alabama-top-prospects-2021-nfl-draft/
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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2021, 11:21:00 AM »
I have a friendly $100 wager with a buddy of mine who says Bama wins in a walk.  He gave me Ohio St +19.
that guy is an idiot. congrats on $100.

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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2021, 12:09:19 PM »
that reminds me of "The Boz"
Sans the pharmaceuticals
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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2021, 12:19:51 PM »
It is crazy how Bama, Clemson, and (to a somewhat lesser extent) tOSU have just moved to a whole new level vis-a-vis the rest of CFB. 

For 2014-2020 all three are right around 0.900.  Next best is Oklahoma at 0.815. 

Looking at losses from 2014-2020:

  • 8 Bama/tOSU winner (91-8 if Bama, 83-8 if tOSU)
  • 9 Bama/tOSU loser (90-9 if Bama, 82-9 if tOSU)
  • 10 Clemson (89-10)
  • 17 Oklahoma (75-17)
That is a stupendously large gap between Oklahoma and the top-3 especially considering that Oklahoma's seven-year record is really, REALLY good. 


After next week's CG there will have been a total of 21 CFP games played and 17 of them will have been won by Bama (7 or 8), Clemson (6), or tOSU (3 or 4).  All the rest of CFB combined will have just four CFP wins (LSU-2, UGA-1, Ore-1). 

In the CFP era (2014-2020) here is what those three have done against everyone else:

Bama is 88-5 against teams not named tOSU or Clemson, that is a winning percentage of 0.946.  They are:

  • 0-1 against tOSU (pending next week's CG)
  • 2-2 against Clemson
  • 5-2 against Auburn
  • 5-2 against Ole Miss
  • 6-1 against LSU
  • perfect against everybody else. 

Ohio State is 80-6 against teams not named Bama or Clemson, that is a winning percentage of 0.930.  They are:
  • 1-0 against Bama (pending next week's CG)
  • 1-2 against Clemson
  • 0-1 against Purdue
  • 0-1 against Iowa
  • 1-1 against Oklahoma
  • 1-1 against VaTech
  • 6-1 against Penn State
  • 6-1 against Michigan State
  • perfect against everybody else. 

Clemson is 85-7 against teams not named Bama or tOSU, that is a winning percentage of 0.924.  They are:
  • 2-2 against Bama
  • 2-1 against tOSU
  • 0-1 against UGA
  • 0-1 against LSU
  • 2-1 against Pitt
  • 3-1 against Notre Dame
  • 5-1 against FSU
  • 6-1 against Syracuse
  • 6-1 against GaTech
  • perfect against everybody else. 


Instead of increasing access, the CFP is just making the rich richer because recruits now can clearly see that there are three primary destinations to consider if they want to play for titles.  The next tier is WAY behind at this point:
  • LSU:  One NC and 2-0 in CFP games but only one CFP appearance in seven years. 
  • Georgia:  1-1 in CFP games but only one CFP appearance in seven years. 
  • Oregon:  1-1 in CFP games but only one CFP appearance in seven years. 
  • Oklahoma:  4 CFP appearances but 0-4 in CFP games. 
  • Notre Dame:  2 CFP appearances but 0-2 in CFP games. 

« Last Edit: January 04, 2021, 03:55:34 PM by medinabuckeye1 »

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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2021, 12:51:22 PM »
2014-2020:



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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2021, 01:18:32 PM »
Instead of increasing access, the CFP is just making the rich richer because recruits now can clearly see that there are three primary destinations to consider if they want to play for titles.  The next tier is WAY behind at this point:

oh, it increased access, but......

the 3rd and 4th team, that may not had a shot previously, now have to win back to back games vs the top 4.

more or less throwing down an impossible gauntlet
previously an underdog might pull and upset and grab a MNC.  the odds are nearly impossible today
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