Over under on yards for DeVonta Smith - 250I'll take the under
NO WAY OHIO STATE CAN BEAT ALABAMA.What is this sorcery? Your reverse jinx won’t work here. Saban has already sold his soul to the devil.
What is this sorcery? Your reverse jinx won’t work here. Saban has already sold his soul to the devil.The devil you say? No, no, no.
I have a friendly $100 wager with a buddy of mine who says Bama wins in a walk. He gave me Ohio St +19.Damn Bammer already has 5 games where they didn't get north of 19.
I have a friendly $100 wager with a buddy of mine who says Bama wins in a walk. He gave me Ohio St +19.Whether he wins or not, that guy is an idiot.
I have a friendly $100 wager with a buddy of mine who says Bama wins in a walk. He gave me Ohio St +19.Is he willing to take more action at that line
Whether he wins or not, that guy is an idiot.He’s a degenerate gambler. Like, I don’t mean he does it for fun, I mean he does it as a way of living. He says he makes money and I don’t care enough to question him.
Whether he wins or not, that guy is an idiot.
Is he willing to take more action at that lineYeah. I'd throw $100 at that line easy.
What is this sorcery? Your reverse jinx won’t work here. Saban has already sold his soul to the devil.Urbz outbid him in '14,course Dabster being tight with Jesus and all couldn't be touched.He should replace Judas as the "12th"
Yeah. I'd throw $100 at that line easy.I'd throw a lot more,fearless would get the itch too
I'd throw a lot more,fearless would get the itch tooyup, I didn't think -20 was enough vs the Irish, but the Bucks are a much better team than the Irish
I mentioned Arizona LB Scooby Wright's season on the Heisman thread. He did win the Bednarik, Nagurski, and Lombardi awards....but not the Butkus.He reminded me of Jay Lehman former Illini LB - all world at the collegiate level.Didn't work out on Sundays
He reminded me of Jay Lehman former Illini LB - all world at the collegiate level.Didn't work out on SundaysThat reminds me of Teddy Lehman, former All-American LB for OU.....
I read somewhere that 'bama is looking to shatter NFL draft records by sending 17 guys this April.Still the best money can buy.
And 42 of their for the 44 two deep should get selected in the next 3 drafts.
(How would you like to be 1 of the 2 guys currently not projected to play on Sundays, any bets those back ups get their draft stock updated, or they get replaced next year?)
NO WAY OSU can hang with an all NFL Team.
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/alabama-top-prospects-2021-nfl-draft/
I have a friendly $100 wager with a buddy of mine who says Bama wins in a walk. He gave me Ohio St +19.that guy is an idiot. congrats on $100.
that reminds me of "The Boz"Sans the pharmaceuticals
Instead of increasing access, the CFP is just making the rich richer because recruits now can clearly see that there are three primary destinations to consider if they want to play for titles. The next tier is WAY behind at this point:oh, it increased access, but......
Well crap.That would be rough. Only way OSU wins is controlling the line of scrimmage and getting after Mac Jones. Tough to do that without those guys
11 Warriors Commenter (ie not an official reporter) claiming to have spoke with several players is saying numerous more Buckeyes have tested positive for Covid including Tommy Togiai and Tyreke Smith.
I'll say it again:
NO WAY OSU BEATS ALABAMA.
I have a nurse friend that says any results from today is too fast a turn around to have come from the Clemson game. But I'll still be bitter to those cheating bums for canceling testing after they got a positive result.
Well crap.
11 Warriors Commenter (ie not an official reporter) claiming to have spoke with several players is saying numerous more Buckeyes have tested positive for Covid including Tommy Togiai and Tyreke Smith.
I'll say it again:
NO WAY OSU BEATS ALABAMA.
I have a nurse friend that says any results from today is too fast a turn around to have come from the Clemson game. But I'll still be bitter to those cheating bums for canceling testing after they got a positive result.
didn't the powerful think of a make-up date in case there was a covid outbreakthat sucks. if indeed covid is effecting either team (more than 1-2 players), they need to postpone the game. don't want either team losing because of injury/illness.
The Buckeyes looked better than they have all year against Clemson. Ohio State plays like that again and they could very well beat Alabama.if bama and buckeyes were playing each other last friday the way each team did play, buckeyes probably win.
that sucks. if indeed covid is effecting either team (more than 1-2 players), they need to postpone the game. don't want either team losing because of injury/illness.Agreed. A certain portion of either fanbase would never stop saying "we would have won if not for COVID" if either team has any outbreak. I'd much rather have it both teams at full strength even though my team is likely too lose that way.
waddle back at practice for bama. not sure if he'll play, but good to see him recovering quickly. if he's not 100%, he doesn't need to play. but i can't say i wouldn't be excited to see him line up on first play from scrimmage.Saban saying today that he might
that sucks. if indeed covid is effecting either team (more than 1-2 players), they need to postpone the game. don't want either team losing because of injury/illness.I agree,tOSU continued virus testing up upto/including Friday - Game Day.Clemson stopped earlier in the week,more importantly players could walk around infected not knowing and pass it on to people susceptible
discussions going on about postponing it. osu saying it cold be without an entire position group.If the protocol is 17 days then what good would it do to postpone the game by seven?
https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/2021/01/covid-19-concerns-threaten-to-disrupt-national-title-game.html
If the protocol is 17 days then what good would it do to postpone the game by seven?the protocols were setup by the confs not ncaa/cfp right? which protocols are osu subject to? are there any for cfp?
Assuming the Buckeyes tested positive even on NYD, 17 days would get you to at least January 18 which is the alternative, no?
The 17 days is Big Ten protocol. That protocol does not apply here (or in any of the bowl games).Unless something has changed the playoffs basically told the teams to keep following their conference protocol. That's why the rule aas changed to 17 days and also why OSU kept testing guys up to Gameday against Clemson and Clemson stopped midweek.
I don't know how to feel about all this. If enough people are out the game becomes a farce, I guess they should postpone.Like if the quality of their rosters becomes akin to a Cincinnati or a BYU?
Medical professionals are going to manipulate test results and risk throwing their careers away for a football game?Some have done it for far less. But yeah, she's dumb.
Like if the quality of their rosters becomes akin to a Cincinnati or a BYU?How about a Florida?
Former Ohio State quarterback Cardale Jones, who was the the Buckeyes’ third-string quarterback entering the 2014 national championship season but came off the benched to help Ohio State beat Alabama in the semifinals, responded to Kristen Saban Setas on Twitter. He referenced how Alabama fared the last time it faced a backup quarterback from Ohio State in the playoff.What a player he was. Didn’t go to a single workout the next offseason.
“… sure you wanna face another backup from OSU? You know what happen last time right….,”
How about a Florida?You can ask Vegas about a full-powered Florida vs Cincinnati.
Cardale threw 11 career passes in the NFL. That was an easy career to predict.True,Tebow didn't remind anyone of Tom Brady but you'd be hard pressed to find anyone better on Saturdays
You can ask Vegas about a full-powered Florida vs Cincinnati.Would be a lot like Alabama v. Texas A&M this season?
Or watch the 2009 Sugar Bowl if you want...same thing, different year.
What a player he was. Didn’t go to a single workout the next offseason.So....when responding to a woman who publicly calls out - incorrectly- OSU for not just going with a back up QB in the National Title game-the last Back up QB ( third string actually) they faced in a Natty- who wiped the floor with them, the relevance of your post is.....?
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Nick's daughter
Its not like the players have nothing else to do. For example, they could study.Bold,insightful statement maybe they'll give it a go
I saw him take the hit, immediately knew the LB was goneBecause he was busy trying to stop the run.
knew that w/o the senior defensive capt LB that Clemson couldn't stop the Buck offense.
was a risky hit, put Fields on the bench, win the game. Take the defensive leader out of the game, lose the game.
still wondering why Venables didn't come after Fields in the 2nd half, it was his only hope.
well, 8 or 9 in the box blitzing 5 or 6 works pretty well as a run blitzThey tried that a few times. Sermon swing pass out of the backfield burned. They did get home once.
it's also my opinion that Venebles is also one the the best DCs in the nationNot according to Dirt Burglars
Like if the quality of their rosters becomes akin to a Cincinnati or a BYU?They're going to be down to their second or third string (still 4* guys), not throwing in the waterboys.
Would be a lot like Alabama v. Texas A&M this season?Then how do you explain Ole Miss?
In any event I meant Florida this year, which was missing so many people as to make their game not worth watching or playing
Then how do you explain Ole Miss?Indiana’s best player- and one of the nations best QBs was out.
Ole Miss beat Indiana without 3 guys that had 465 yards of total offense against Bama! Ealy-120 rushing and 18 receiving, Yeboah-181 receiving, and Moore-143 receiving and 3 rushing.
Then how do you explain Ole Miss?Indiana was playing their backup qb who had a separated throwing shoulder
Ole Miss beat Indiana without 3 guys that had 465 yards of total offense against Bama! Ealy-120 rushing and 18 receiving, Yeboah-181 receiving, and Moore-143 receiving and 3 rushing.
Then how do you explain Ole Miss?Indiana sucks.
Ole Miss beat Indiana without 3 guys that had 465 yards of total offense against Bama! Ealy-120 rushing and 18 receiving, Yeboah-181 receiving, and Moore-143 receiving and 3 rushing.
Indiana’s best player- and one of the nations best QBs was out.Was he a finalist for any of the QB awards?
Was he a finalist for any of the QB awards?He got injured and ended up missing 3 games and change.But 2 of those games ended up getting cancelled because of covid .Penix was exciting with a good arm
Was he a finalist for any of the QB awards?We will never know of course but Indiana with him at quarterback smokes old mess by two or three TDS
2020 Biletnikoff Award Finalists
Elijah Moore, Ole Miss
Kyle Pitts, Florida
DeVonta Smith, Alabama
Was he a finalist for any of the QB awards?He was a semifinalist for the Davey O'brien award but wasn't eligible to be a finalist due to his injury
2020 Biletnikoff Award Finalists
Elijah Moore, Ole Miss
Kyle Pitts, Florida
DeVonta Smith, Alabama
We will never know of course but Indiana with him at quarterback smokes old mess by two or three TDSThe best claims are unfalsifiable.
I can't even begin to have any prediction considering OSU has a bunch of guys out and I don't know who they are.what's latest? rumors there's up to 20 out but no info on who they are. is that what you're referring to?
what's latest? rumors there's up to 20 out but no info on who they are. is that what you're referring to?Yes. Just reading the tea leaves the defensive line is the hardest hit, which definitely downgrades OSU's chances because that is the best part of their defense and their only hope at slowing down Bama. But that's all I'm doing, reading tea leaves.
I don't know if they would have smoked them but they probably would have passed the ball better. Either way both teams had one of their worst offensive outputs of the season so I'm not sure we should be all that shocked. I was surprised Indiana made a game of it after watching the first half - Tuttle had a really hard time throwing the ball without one hopping it. Of course, who knows it Tuttle is any good at all with a healthy shoulder.Tuttle looked pretty good in Madison.
what's latest? rumors there's up to 20 out but no info on who they are. is that what you're referring to?This site is very iffy, but better than nothing at all. During the season they listed Covid as the reason the player was out/? if that was the case. Have no idea why BYU, CU, and WMU are still listed.
Yes. Just reading the tea leaves the defensive line is the hardest hit, which definitely downgrades OSU's chances because that is the best part of their defense and their only hope at slowing down Bama. But that's all I'm doing, reading tea leaves.well that sucks. i stand by what i said earlier. if it's 1-2 players, no need to postpone, but if it's a whole position group or significant portion of the team then it probably should be. of course, that's if there's some way for them to be back in a reasonable time frame. if they're going to be out 3 weeks then it sucks but you can't wait that long. there's got to be a middle ground somewhere.
https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/2021/01/final-test-results-clear-path-for-jan-11-national-championship.htmlwelp, maybe not, lol... (byrne is the bama ad if anyone is wondering)
looks like it's a go.
welp, maybe not, lol... (byrne is the bama ad if anyone is wondering)Follow up at 2:45
https://twitter.com/Greg_Byrne/status/1347619431405510657
still wondering why Venables didn't come after Fields in the 2nd half, it was his only hope.I read some good analysis of Wade, from a pro site.
Because he’s relied on stealing signs ? how often have you seen a playoff defense that out sync?
I’ve heard rumors togiai might be back in, I can only hope
Also saw D Wade saying he knows who he wants matched up with lol, he hasn’t stopped anyone all year and now gonna slow down heisman winner ?
College Football Playoff predictions, odds: Expert picks for Alabama vs. Ohio State in national championship - CBSSports.com (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-playoff-predictions-odds-expert-picks-for-alabama-vs-ohio-state-in-national-championship/)Those guys out changes everything.Williams started showing his wares late,Togia(starter) and Smith(rotates) wreak havoc on the line - no little thing on pressuring Mac Jones
The line has moved from 7.5 to 8, which isn't that much, it would be more if OSU were missing more key players I think.
I fear it could be relatively ugly, like say 42-24.
Those guys out changes everything.Williams started showing his wares late,Togia(starter) and Smith(rotates) wreak havoc on the line - no little thing on pressuring Mac JonesWhen was it known certain those guys are out?
When was it known certain those guys are out?It's not certain now but a product of the rumor mill and internet sleuthing. We won't get an official list until tomorrow, probably right before the game.
I'd think if the virus was the culprit they would move the game back a week and try to get a few negative tests to get them back on the field.Well the virus is the culprit, though my biggest concern is the guys they missed last week (Zach Harrison and Tyler Friday) would also miss this week, leaving them extremely thin on the DL. But those guys appear to be back.
Maybe a week isn't long enough?
Maybe this contributes to an "Ohio against the world"This is such a lame phrase and such an obvious and complete rip off of the original...
https://www.si.com/.amp/college/2021/01/10/trey-sermon-ohio-state-family-mother?__twitter_impression=trueNajee Harris, his mom, and background. Wow.
Trey Sermon, his mom, and background. Wow.
Najee Harris, his mom, and background. Wow.Are you quoting me to one up me cuz it’s sounds like your being a dick?
https://247sports.com/Article/Homeless-Abused-Angry-Najee-Harris-unsteady-path-to-Alabama-50936595/
https://www.si.com/.amp/college/2021/01/10/trey-sermon-ohio-state-family-mother?__twitter_impression=trueThat's some story. I knew just the barest outline of it.
Trey Sermon, his mom, and background. Wow.
Are you quoting me to one up me cuz it’s sounds like your being a dick?Sorry if it came across like that. It just seems as if there is a story about these guys it is similar. Bad. Very bad. Suppose if it was not then there wouldn't be a story.
Sorry if it came across like that. It just seems as if there is a story about these guys it is similar. Bad. Very bad. Suppose if it was not then there wouldn't be a story.Najee is a badass player. Great pro career coming. I just get impressed by how some of these kids come from such horrible beginnings and make it big.
https://www.si.com/.amp/college/2021/01/10/trey-sermon-ohio-state-family-mother?__twitter_impression=trueWow is right. This is a prime example of why Mothers are the strongest people in the world but don't get enough credit. The good ones will never ask for it either. She even took it further with her degrees and charity. Thank you for this, it was a good read.
Trey Sermon, his mom, and background. Wow.
if that means Day becomes a hot commodity and the Eagles snatch him upYou are definitely not the first person I've seen or heard suggest that Day may want to try his hand in the NFL, but I have my doubts. Via wiki, here is Day's playing and coaching history:
if he wants to try the NFL nothing will stop him, but..........
He never played in the league and in almost twenty years of coaching only two were in the NFL. Maybe he will, others like Spurrier, Saban, etc have tried but I certainly wouldn't consider it inevitable.
You are definitely not the first person I've seen or heard suggest that Day may want to try his hand in the NFL, but I have my doubts. Via wiki, here is Day's playing and coaching history:He never played in the league because he wasn’t good enough as a player to make the league. Very few are. I’m sure there have been plenty of NFL head coaches who never played in the NFL.
- 1998-2001 New Hampshire, played QB and LB.
- 2002 New Hampshire, TE
- 2003-2004 Boston College, GA
- 2005 Florida, GA
- 2006 Temple, WR
- 2007-2011, Boston College, WR
- 2012 Temple, OC/WR
- 2013-2014 Boston College, OC/QB
- 2015 Philadelphia Eagles, QB
- 2016 San Francisco 49ers, QB
- 2017 tOSU, co-OC/QB
- 2018 tOSU, acting HC
- 2018 tOSU, OC/QB
- 2019-2020 tOSU, HC
He never played in the league and in almost twenty years of coaching only two were in the NFL. Maybe he will, others like Spurrier, Saban, etc have tried but I certainly wouldn't consider it inevitable.
buckeyes, good luck. hate that some players might be out. hopefully that doesn't detract from a great game. cheers.You too buddy hoping for one last great hurrah for college football
So who is out for the Buckeyes from covid?Definitely Dawand Jones, Miyan Williams, Blake Haubeil. Probably Togiai and Smith. Unsure of others
We're done if Togiai and Smith,really just wrong they couldn't put it off.Bama has no one? with the virus germs swirling across the globeIt sucks but let's just hope it's those two up front
Ouch. Togai and Smith were dynamite against Clemson.Man that just sucks so bad. Covid is a bitch. Here’s to a good clean game and a virus free 2021 season.
Bigger problem might be no kickoff guy. Can’t give them great field position.
Oh well- got to roll the best you can with what you got.
Man that just sucks so bad. Covid is a bitch. Here’s to a good clean game and a virus free 2021 season.Here here!
Is there a game on tonight?Cinci v. BYU for the natty
Welp, Sermon is hurtUgh.
Why are they talking like Teague doesn't know how to be the starting RB?I like Teague but he doesn't have 500 yards in the last two games or in any two games
But he's not some inexperienced hack.....never mind. I think you're just trolling me.?? I'm not trolling just stating the facts. Losing Sermon is a blow.
You should be allowed 12 players on defense as long as Smith is on the field.FACTS
?? I'm not trolling just stating the facts. Losing Sermon is a blow.No one said it wasn't. Just stop reading my posts, please.
No one said it wasn't. Just stop reading my posts, please.WTF dude get some Busch Lite and chill out
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WTF dude get some Busch Lite and chill out
More AT&T commercials, please.I must have missed that one.
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Danger zone time here for Ohio StHeh it was danger zone time when the game started
Man Fields is inaccurate tonight. Could have had two touchdowns on that drive and badly missed themWonder if he’s hurt. He had to have cracked a rib or two vs Clemson. That hit was vicious. He was clearly hurting the rest of that game. He was playing off adrenaline and emotion and kept going- maybe he made things worse?
Wonder if he’s hurt. He had to have cracked a rib or two vs Clemson. That hit was vicious. He was clearly hurting the rest of that game. He was playing off adrenaline and emotion and kept going- maybe he made things worse?A lot of it has to do with pressure. Once Sermon left, Bama quit respecting the run.
Sarkisian is playing chess and OSU's DC is playing...with himself.Sarkisian is a great OC. Always has been. Pretty bad HC though. They are two completely different disciplines.
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Allowing Borland to be covering Smith....
Over under on yards for DeVonta Smith - 250He's at 215
Sarkisian is a great OC. Always has been. Pretty bad HC though. They are two completely different disciplines.It was zone. Borland was just supposed to drop. He did- but not fast enough
Borland covering Smith is some Don Brown level shit.
Sarkisian is a great OC. Always has been. Pretty bad HC though. They are two completely different disciplines.it was the safety that didn't pick him up like he was supposed to
Borland covering Smith is some Don
A lot of it has to do with pressure. Once Sermon left, Bama quit respecting the run.We don’t really know that. Sermon went out on literally the first play. Sucks for osu. Especially with the other injuries to the oline and dline plus the guys out with covid and fields not 100% just not a full team and it’s a shame we couldn’t have that game. I think the first qtr and a half showed they could compete but with all that it’s just too much. Now bama needs to not screw it up in second half or this is all gonna look dumb from me lol.
it was the safety that didn't pick him up like he was supposed to
It was zone. Borland was just supposed to drop. He did- but not fast enoughWell which one was it?
That offense is actually better than LSU last year. Never thought I would see that just one season later.Not sure I agree.
That's a whole lot of NFL talent on Alabama's side line.Saban has hired really good OC’s. Sark, Kiffin, and Locksley can all co-ordinate and coach some offense. As head coaches? They all kinda suck. Different disciplines. Some great OC’s can make great head coaches- but it’s rare. Most are bad at it.
I recall a criticism of Saban several years ago, was he wasn't a very good coach, just a master recruiter. It seems pretty obvious to me he still has the most talent, and got the right people to coach now as well.
Well, DVRd and started once the kids went down. Didn't see much reason not to skip ahead to real time after that 4th down stop.They scored three straight possessions with their Heisman finalist QB gimpy, their Heisman winning WR out, and their other WR (who may be better than the Heisman winner) playing at like 40%
Sigh.
This Bama offense is more well rounded than LSU last year
That's a whole lot of NFL talent on Alabama's side line.That criticism could've been fair (results notwithstanding), except then Saban said "F-it" and ditched his 2 stud RB, game-manager offense for a full-throttle one that tossed it all around the yard.
I recall a criticism of Saban several years ago, was he wasn't a very good coach, just a master recruiter. It seems pretty obvious to me he still has the most talent, and got the right people to coach now as well.
That's a whole lot of NFL talent on Alabama's side line.That criticism was dumb.
I recall a criticism of Saban several years ago, was he wasn't a very good coach, just a master recruiter. It seems pretty obvious to me he still has the most talent, and got the right people to coach now as well.
Not that it's changed, but we're now another year removed.......the last recruiting class at Alabama that didn't win a NC was from 2005.What the 2005 class lacked in national titles they made up for in John Parker Wilsons
Let that sink in.
Not that it's changed, but we're now another year removed.......the last recruiting class at Alabama that didn't win a NC was from 2005.I can’t fathom that. Thirteen consecutive seasons that Bama has been ranked number 1 in the AP at some point during the season.
Let that sink in.
Not sure I agree.bama's oline was better and najee was better, but not by a whole lot, and lsu wr corps as a whole was probably better, but bama had best of the group and 2 of top 4 for sure (waddle healthy). mac probably isn't as good as burrow, but this season was arguably better (and with an admittedly worse wr corps overall as we agree). dude broke ncaa records for comp % and qb rating, had a better y/a and td/int ratio. burrow has total yds and td's, but the total games difference adjusting they're both a lot closer. bama production didn't benefit from ooc cupcakes like lsu's did (they didn't need it, but their ppg drops when not including ooc and non-p5 teams). it would be really close and there's probably no real discernible difference, but i'll be a homer (shocker) and take bama's.
Bama has a better OL and Najee is a better back than CEH, but overall I like the LSU WR corps a little better and I like Joe Burrow A LOT better than BAMA QB.
Bama is just too good.not sure if you're joking or not, but that's the rumor, bob is new oc.
Of course, being Bama, they will recover from losing Sark by bringing in Bill O'Brien.
It's just not fair.
I saw a lot of broken and missed tackles, not just on Harris, but on even some WRs. I don't expect that from an OSU defense even against elite players, not that often. They would have Harris apparently bottled up and he'd slide through shrugging off tacklers.Yeah, I thought the OSU LBs were the most underperforming unit. Not sure it would have mattered, and Sark schemed them into some bad matchups, but even when they had chances to make plays, they just didn't.
Yeah, I thought the OSU LBs were the most underperforming unit. Not sure it would have mattered, and Sark schemed them into some bad matchups, but even when they had chances to make plays, they just didn't.Unfortunately,they may have had to play more LBs as the DBs have taken a hit.Arnette/Fuller/Okudah got drafted last spring and Amir Riep a projected starter this year was kicked off the team after being brought up on Rape charges.Still had Borlund out their with much faster guys available
Bama is basically going to lose an NFL team, and will starts the season ranked Number One. It's boring to be a Bama fan.I think that taste of DJ we got will make Clemson #1 and Alabama #2.
Yeah, I thought the OSU LBs were the most underperforming unit. Not sure it would have mattered, and Sark schemed them into some bad matchups, but even when they had chances to make plays, they just didn't.najee disagrees. ~3:00 mark. good interview all around.
I think that taste of DJ we got will make Clemson #1 and Alabama #2.isu returns like 20 starters. they should have a banner year.
The only question every year is who is team #4 to enter the Bama/Clemson/OSU slaughterhouse.
Oklahoma, with a returning Spencer Rattler, and a defense that looked better late in the season seems like the choice? Iowa State should be really, really good too. UNC has the QB in place, but I think they lose a lot around him.
najee disagrees. ~3:00 mark. good interview all around.Truth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSSNGyHc3MY
I’m not sure OSU is a top 4 next year, the defense was clearly not a strength , they need help everywhere in back 7. D line will be ok I think, but I don’t see a dominating force and offense loses fields, sermon, olave, Davis , there’s no game changer at RB unless a young kid steps up. TE should be good, WRs look good, but who’s QB and what’s offense look like? That’s a lot of questions to be a top 4 team.Lot of returning talent, lot of stud recruits. Same as Clemson and Bama
Smith and Togiai being out has a lot to do with that
If I were disappointed ( I am not- Bama is just better) it would be the D-line. Generated zero pressure
Plus, who is going to beat them?They do have Oregon, but its at home.
IMO, Wisconsin, Penn State and Michigan all still have issues.
Iowa and Indiana are probably the 2nd and 3rd best teams in the Big Ten going into next year
The athleticism of OSU"s LBs was exposed. I'm sure they're great guys and hard workers, but not elite athletes. It's as simple as that.I expect Werner, who had a decent game, to be drafted based purely on his athleticism which is through the roof. Super fast. Super physical freak.
I’m not sure OSU is a top 4 next year, the defense was clearly not a strength , they need help everywhere in back 7. D line will be ok I think, but I don’t see a dominating force and offense loses fields, sermon, olave, Davis , there’s no game changer at RB unless a young kid steps up. TE should be good, WRs look good, but who’s QB and what’s offense look like? That’s a lot of questions to be a top 4 team.
Lot of returning talent, lot of stud recruits. Same as Clemson and Bama
Kerry Coombs needs to be reassigned or released.He kept putting Borland in situations he had no business being in.Jones had too much time and Tuf wasn't hanging with any of those guys.Put in back ups with speed.Thankfully Borland was never asked to. Not once I don’t believe.
could have had a better plan for the Hypesman winnerBama had talent advantage no doubt,Jones just had to deal to the playmaker of the moment.Like to see some improvisation,try alternating or changing the scheme just enough to mess with their timing
a few double teams might have helped
Sark took advantage of OSUs mediocre secondary, soft zones, and lack of pass rush. He intentionally worked around OSUs defensive strength- LBsThe LBs got killed underneath because of speed,this was discussed adnauseam on Buckeye Boards.The only place Ohio State stood out defensively this year was the D-Line.Warner/Borland are scheme guys and work well until they go up in weight class.With a full D-Line might have helped but Bama simply exposed it.Arnette/Fuller/Okuda and Riep were lost from last year.There was speed on the bench that could have been implimented to at least blitz and upset a rythmm.You can teach mechanics/technique/Scheme you can't teach speed.Borland can plug a hole but not cover in space
The LBs got killed underneath because of speed,this was discussed adnauseam on Buckeye Boards.The only place Ohio State stood out defensively this year was the D-Line.Warner/Borland are scheme guys and work well until they go up in weight class.With a full D-Line might have helped but Bama simply exposed it.There was speed on the bench that could have been implimented.You can teach mechanics/technique/Scheme you can't teach speed.Borland can plug a hole but not cover in spaceCouldn’t disagree more. They got killed on the flanks, the edges. Not underneath. Borland was never assigned to cover anyone. he was asked, on a couple of plays at most ( rarely done this season with him by the way) to drop into a deep zone. 15 yards or more from LOS.
My point was Coombs did little in the way of imagination,the DBs had their hands full and Borland couldn't cover you,me,their RBs or WRs.I'm not blaming him just making an observation he should have been switched out.Early in the year vs Penn St/Rutgers/Indiana Borland got blown up plenty.Well yes- the defensive scheme was grasping at straws for sure.
The problem is that the linebackers were too athletic and better than their defensive backs which is why they were playing four linebackers a lot despite this being mostly insane.My point stands - Coombs is out of his element,like when Warriner moved up to OC .It didn't work but like Coombs an excellent position coach
The problem is that the linebackers were too athletic and better than their defensive backs which is why they were playing four linebackers a lot despite this being mostly insane.Amen. And if you think about it- to even have a chance to slow down that Bama offense, you would need 3/4 lockdown corners, and a dynamite pass rush, plus 2-3 NFL caliber LBs.
My point stands - Coombs is out of his element,like when Warriner moved up to OC .It didn't work but like Coombs an excellent position coachWell you are entitled to your opinion.
Honestly- great offenses just beat great defenses today in the college game. Period.Great post.
Not saying to just forget about defense, you still need some semblance of defense. My point is a great offense in college will always beat a great defense. The game has completely changed.
Not really disappointed in OSU defense. There is no college defense around that can slow down that Bama O. They have a bunch of guys who will get drafted on OL, they have the best RB prospect in the NFL draft and a guy who I think is going to be a stud in the pros in Najee and oh yeah they also have maybe the best college WR I’ve ever seen in DeVonta Smith.
There just isn’t a defense in college that was going to stop them. I’m more surprised by OSU offense not keeping pace. Losing Sermon was definitely a huge blow- he had come on and was on a string of big-time performances in big games. I’m a little shocked OSU didn’t get into the high 30’s, low 40s. Totally expected them too. My gut tells me Fields was still banged up from that wicked shot he took against Clemson.
The problem is that the linebackers were too athletic and better than their defensive backs which is why they were playing four linebackers a lot despite this being mostly insane.Their DBs are much faster,Brown/Banks/Proctor,Wade,why was Borland put in a situation to cover Smith on that 43 yd TD right before the half?Yet Coombs didn't adjust it in the 2nd half,still trotted out 4 LBs.Chizik pointed this out as well in the coaches room
I’m a little shocked OSU didn’t get into the high 30’s, low 40s. Totally expected them too. My gut tells me Fields was still banged up from that wicked shot he took against Clemson.Fields didn't make excuses,he has the tools and throws a beautiful deep ball.That was another thing being banged up hamstrung the game plan,hopefully he can correct his reads on secondary recievers moving forward.Hope he stays.
Their DBs are much faster,Brown/Banks/Proctor,Wade,why was Borland put in a situation to cover Smith on that 43 yd TD right before the half?Yet Coombs didn't adjust it in the 2nd half,still trotted out 4 LBs.Chizik pointed this out as well in the coaches roomTrue. Not much in the way of adjustments. And the few he did make- Sark just ate it up
Their DBs are much faster,Brown/Banks/Proctor,Wade,why was Borland put in a situation to cover Smith on that 43 yd TD right before the half?Yet Coombs didn't adjust it in the 2nd half,still trotted out 4 LBs.Chizik pointed this out as well in the coaches roomcouple things...
Fields didn't make excuses,he has the tools and throws a beautiful deep ball.That was another thing being banged up hamstrung the game plan,hopefully he can correct his reads on secondary recievers moving forward.Hope he stays.Yeah, you notice how many deep balls he even tried? Rarely had that kind of time.
With Sermon- Bama still wins for sure but I think the game looks different.Much closer also with a healthy QB and 2 stalwart DLs that covided.Jones would have still got his but not the time he had last night
couple things...On that particular play, Bama ran both safeties off towards the boundary with other deep WRs.
1 - that was a great call and setup by sark/bama. they ran that out of same formation they'd been using for wr screens in the flat. they had a good bit of success with those, and once the db's saw it enough they'd start to key on those plays and focus on short/flat areas. this leave the middle wide open.
2 - the lb wasn't really at fault. looked like the safety was supposed to pick up any deep middle and bracket it, but he was way too deep. cb's had the flats, the mlb has to get deep and protect the middle from underneath while the safety brackets from over top. the mlb was never going to keep up with any wr but the safety was supposed to be there and force the route back down or cover if going over top, and he was nowhere to be seen.
That was my point Coombs was making sandlot mistakes.If you have to - blitz an LB straight up the gut forcing the pocket.Don't drop them back 25 yrds to pick up track stars,specially one geared more to fill holes.And the DB was much deeper and came over late but the 4 LBs didn't,won't and arent going to stop that
2 - the lb wasn't really at fault. looked like the safety was supposed to pick up any deep middle and bracket it, but he was way too deep.
if OSU's LBs aren't fast, who's 4 and 5 star recruits are faster?Borland is an over-achiever muscle man. So yeah, his weakness is coverage. That's not damning or an insult of any kind. That other LB, number 20, didn't stop anyone from falling forward. He can fill a hole and has more wiggle than Borland, but isn't nearly physical enough.
maybe playing in the big ten, speed at LB isn't the most important tool?
On that particular play, Bama ran both safeties off towards the boundary with other deep WRs.nah, osu was in nickle and had a saftey walked up on one of the slot guys. single high, man outside, zone under. 1 safety for center deep protect, outside dbs are man, lbs and other safety are zone under high safety. before play, the other safety is inching up to prevent the flat routes and give man look.
Brilliand play design!
Fields didn't make excuses,he has the tools and throws a beautiful deep ball.That was another thing being banged up hamstrung the game plan,hopefully he can correct his reads on secondary recievers moving forward.Hope he stays.I think there’s no shot Fields stays. He’s a top 5 pick imo. If Jets don’t take him at #2 someone will trade up to get him imo. If no does, he doesn’t get past Atlanta at 4. Matt Ryan is getting up there in age, new coach, new system- think it’d just be too tempting not to take him.
nah, osu was in nickle and had a saftey walked up on one of the slot guys. single high, man outside, zone under. 1 safety for center deep protect, outside dbs are man, lbs and other safety are zone under high safety. before play, the other safety is inching up to prevent the flat routes and give man look.Yes. I have the same vid- only a different narrative. “ sark makes them break the rules of their own coverage”. We are splitting hairs now.
the mlb sees smitty running the seam and drops under him immediately. the safety over top is supposed to step up and bracket him but just keeps going deep and leave a huge whole. the outside db's have decent coverage.
starts about 5:25 mark. if you pause at about 5:58 mark, you can see the safety supposed to step up and take smitty from the lb. but he keeps dropping.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRYEF_y_t_U
The Jets and Eagles are nuts,I wouldn't throw the towel in on either Wentz or DarnoldI would. Wentz is unfixable- he’s been a turnover machine his entire career. Same with Darnold. They are both averagely talented at best as pure passers- and I would’ve never used a 1st rd pick on either.
OSU thought they could do the same to Bama that they did to Clemson- stop the run and make them somewhat one dimensional. They did “ limit” Harris to 79 yards on 22 carries (3.6 per).When I read the stats I really did a double-take on this. It sure didn't feel like Harris only had 3.6 ypc. I also noticed what you pointed out here:
Teague is a gasher , straight ahead. He did fairly well too- more YPC than Najee in fact.The way it felt watching the game I would never have guessed that Teague had more ypc than Harris, never but there it is:
I would. Wentz is unfixable- he’s been a turnover machine his entire career. Same with Darnold. They are both averagely talented at best as pure passers- and I would’ve never used a 1st rd pick on either.Disagree,Philly is growing long in the tooth.He was great as a rookie before he got hurt surprised the shit out of everyone.And the Jets have been a one legged man in an ass kicking contest for a while.They need to fix everything around him.They've had Pennington,Sanchez,Geno Smith,Fitzpatrick - they break these guys.Look what the Dolphins did in just two seasons,like the Rams 2 seasons before
That’s what makes Najee so special- he can block and run routes & catch just as well as he can run it.made this comment on another site to someone who said it'd be a mistake to take him early in draft.
He’s one of the most impressive all-around big backs I’ve ever seen. He brings a lot to the table in pass pro and as a receiver.
isu returns like 20 starters. they should have a banner year.Yeah, but ISU's 20 returning starters would be 2nd or 3rd string at Bama/OSU/Clemson, so while the returning talent may set them up well in the B12, it won't exactly turn them into legitimate playoff material even if they make the field.
made this comment on another site to someone who said it'd be a mistake to take him early in draft.He is exactly what every NFL team is looking for in a RB these days. You have to be able to block and catch in todays NFL. Days of lining up in I-formation and just carrying the rock 30 times a game are over. I'd be shocked if he's not a mid-to-late 1st rd pick. Steelers at 24 would be a great fit.
No way, dude is perfect for NFL. Finds hard yards on bad plays, great vision and cutback, doesn't dance, great pass protection and is legit threat as receiver out of backfield. Strong, dependable, good speed and athleticism, great size, workhorse back that can contribute to the passing game either in protection or receiving threat. He is tailor made for NFL.
They have a lot of free agents this offseason evidently so not sure what their targets are or will be.I hope they swng and miss on all of themThey need to upgrade their QB and RB positions asap. Big Ben is washed- his 500 yards were all empty calories. Connor is exactly what he's always been- a back-up RB. Why they thought he'd be able to replace an elite back like Bell- beyond me.
They need to upgrade their QB and RB positions asap. Big Ben is washed- his 500 yards were all empty calories. Connor is exactly what he's always been- a back-up RB. Why they thought he'd be able to replace an elite back like Bell- beyond me.Bell has landed at KC though he prolly doesn't deserve it.IMO Squeelers hang onto Ben next year because of his contract and who do they have to replace him?Think they part ways after 2021.So alot of roster movement
All of southern Utah is gorgeous, but has a negative hold in my mind, as I blew up a transmission on my trip up to SLC and back.The 40 miles on I-15 from St George (Dixie), UT to Mesquite, NV is one of the most picturesque areas in the USA. Especially the 30 miles in Arizona through the Virgin River Gorge.
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The 40 miles on I-15 from St George (Dixie), UT to Mesquite, NV is one of the most picturesque areas in the USA. Especially the 30 miles in Arizona through the Virgin River Gorge.Must be a gorge Chuck Norris has never visited....