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Topic: #8 Ohio State 34, #7 Notre Dame 23 Post Game

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medinabuckeye1

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Re: CFPCG: #8 Ohio State (13-2) vs. #7 Notre Dame (13-1) Game Week
« Reply #42 on: January 12, 2025, 12:17:35 PM »
Similar result here: instead of needing a FG to avoid overtime, OSU comes away with a 14-point win that most people (and the chattering masses on TV) will forget was a really close game.
I, for one, acknowledged upthread that it was a REALLY close game. 

My standard, go-to, way of assessing the closeness of a game is in terms of time rather than points, as in:

At what point in the game would a neutral viewer have thought it was over?

In this case that was not until ~2 minutes to go.

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Re: CFPCG: #8 Ohio State (13-2) vs. #7 Notre Dame (13-1) Game Week
« Reply #44 on: January 12, 2025, 03:11:24 PM »

SEC SEC SEC!

Ohio State, Notre Dame, USC, Michigan and Illinois are now 8-1 against the SEC this season, which is stunning considering the SEC remains undefeated in hypothetical matchups
Not sure why the folks on twitter chose those teams specifically,  but the Big Ten overall is 6-4 vs the SEC this year,  which is still a good record for the Big Ten.

Missing from the the Twitter post is Wisc loss to Bama,  UCLA loss to LSU,  Iowa loss to Mizzou in Music Bowl.  Then add in Notre Dame's wins over A&M and Georgia and you get 8-1.   

I know that doesn't change the original point that the SEC is down by SEC standards and was a little over-rated this year,  but it does not mean the SEC is suddenly awful either.

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Re: CFPCG: #8 Ohio State (13-2) vs. #7 Notre Dame (13-1) Game Week
« Reply #45 on: January 12, 2025, 03:40:25 PM »
Seeing how giddy they are about a now 2-year! run without the SEC dominating is revealing.

Come back to me when you've utterly dominated every facet of the sport for 18 years.  5 different schools winning NCs in that amount of time among the 13 overall in those 18 years.  

These posts mocking the SEC are adorable.  It's like selling all of your Apple stock after it dips for 2 days.  Yawn.
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Re: CFPCG: #8 Ohio State (13-2) vs. #7 Notre Dame (13-1) Game Week
« Reply #46 on: January 12, 2025, 03:52:32 PM »
I actually LOVE IT when the the rest of the conference can give blue bloods a knuckle sandwich along the seasons dips/curves. It would do the CFB landscape well to see Spartans/Badgers/Goophs/Bug Eaters/Hawks/Nits etc. raise the hardware.
The Big Ten has struggled with this for......60 years now.  The whales of UM and OSU + the plankton they feast upon.  
The Big Ten hasn't had parity since peace-love-dope.
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Re: CFPCG: #8 Ohio State (13-2) vs. #7 Notre Dame (13-1) Game Week
« Reply #47 on: January 12, 2025, 04:56:17 PM »

That said, can we agree on what the excuse will be if OSU loses? Is it the unfair schedule; that they had a tougher road? Or will there be another reason?
Upsets happen.  Statistical certainty.  Something that doesn't happen 97% of the time still happens 3% of the time.
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Re: CFPCG: #8 Ohio State (13-2) vs. #7 Notre Dame (13-1) Game Week
« Reply #48 on: January 12, 2025, 05:00:46 PM »
The Big Ten has struggled with this for......60 years now.  The whales of UM and OSU + the plankton they feast upon. 
The Big Ten hasn't had parity since peace-love-dope.
Sorry our bagmen get a say now but that post has nothing to do with the SEC. FLA at least looks like it's climbing out and i've stated that,work on your complex
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Re: CFPCG: #8 Ohio State (13-2) vs. #7 Notre Dame (13-1) Game Week
« Reply #49 on: January 12, 2025, 11:24:12 PM »
One thing that I think will be interesting to see is how the AP treats things.  The most recent AP Poll came out before ANY of the bowls.  This is quite unusual therefore for the teams that have played multiple CFP games because usually there is only one game between AP Polls but now there are a bunch for various teams.  Here is the last AP Poll (again, before any of the bowls) along with results since then:

  • 13-0 Oregon, L 41-21 to #6 tOSU
  • 11-2 UGA, L 23-10 to #3 ND
  • 11-1 ND, W 27-17 vs #9 IU, W 23-10 vs #2 UGA, W 27-24 vs #5 PSU, TBD vs #6 tOSU
  • 11-2 Texas, W 38-24 vs #13 Clemson, W 39-31 vs #9 ASU, L 28-14 vs #6 tOSU
  • 11-2 PSU, W 38-10 vs #12 SMU, W 31-14 vs #8 Boise, L 27-24 vs #3 ND
  • 10-2 Ohio State, W 42-17 vs #7 TN, W 41-21 vs #1 Oregon, W 28-14 vs #4 TX, TBD vs #3 ND
  • 10-2 Tennessee, L 42-17 vs #6 tOSU
  • 12-1 Boise, L 31-14 to #5 PSU
  • 11-1 Indiana, L 27-17 vs #3 ND
  • 11-2 Arizona State, L 39-31 to #4 Texas
  • 9-3 Bama, L 19-13 to NR Michigan
  • 11-2 SMU, L 38-10 to #5 PSU
  • 10-3 Clemson, L 38-24 to #4 Texas
  • 9-3 USCe, L 21-17 to #21 Illinois
  • 10-2 Miami, FL, L 42-41 to #18 Iowa State
  • 9-3 Ole Miss, W 52-20 vs NR Dook
  • 10-2 BYU, W 36-14 vs #20 Colorado
  • 10-3 Iowa State, W 42-41 vs #15 Miami, FL
  • 11-1 Army, L 31-13 to NR Navy, W 27-6 vs NR LaTech
  • 9-3 Colorado, L 36-14 to #17 BYU
  • 9-3 Illinois, W 21-17 vs #14 USCe
  • 9-3 Syracuse, W 52-35 vs NR WSU
  • 9-3 Mizzou, W 27-24 vs NR Iowa
  • 10-3 UNLV, W 24-13 vs NR Califonrnia
  • 10-2 Memphis, W 42-37 vs NR WVU

Interesting that nine consecutive teams from #7 Tennessee through #15 Miami all lost.  That leaves a lot of upward mobility possible for the teams behind that with impressive wins:
  • #16 Ole Miss blew out an unranked opponent
  • #17 BYU blew out Prime and son
  • #18 ISU beat a higher ranked team
  • #21 Illinois beat a higher ranked team

The Playoffs also produced eight teams that went 0-1 so it will be interesting to see what the voters do with:
  • #1 Oregon, blown out by #6 tOSU
  • #2 Georgia, two score loss to #3 ND
  • #7 Tennessee, blown out by #6 tOSU
  • #8 Boise, blown out by #5 PSU
  • #9 IU, blown out by #3 ND
  • #10 ASU lost to #4 Texas
  • #12 SMU, blown out by #5 PSU
  • #13 Clemson, lost to #4 Texas


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Re: CFPCG: #8 Ohio State (13-2) vs. #7 Notre Dame (13-1) Game Week
« Reply #50 on: January 12, 2025, 11:31:03 PM »
My guess for final AP Poll top-10:

  • tOSU/ND winner, either 14-2 tOSU or 15-1 ND
  • tOSU/ND loser, either 13-3 tOSU or 14-2 ND
  • 13-1 Oregon
  • 13-3 Texas
  • 13-3 Penn State
  • 11-3 Georgia
  • 10-3 Tennessee
  • 11-3 Arizona State
  • 12-2 Boise St
  • 11-2 Indiana


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Re: CFP CG #8 Ohio Stata vs #7 Notre Dame
« Reply #51 on: January 13, 2025, 11:22:52 AM »


Yah OSU beat Texas by 2 scores but The Horns were 1st and goal at the 1 from tying this game up.

This could be a really good game. I mean I'm rooting for a 21-0 OSU lead at the end of the first type game, but this could be a real slugfest.
This is why I have always appreciated this group. Yes, rival fans tend to slug it out on here occasionally, but for the most part a reasonable group. The game was that close and a couple plays different could have lead to a far different outcome. I can't believe it's the case, but coaching was a huge factor. I have thought Sarkisian had a James Franklin feel to him and it's leaning more towards that right now.

Couple plays that changed the game - The screen to Henderson to basically end the first half. Honestly a brilliant call when the defensive call was beyond stupid on so many level. As in illogical, senseless, unintelligent, dumb, irresponsible, etc. Blitz everyone and have your DBs start the play running backwards? wow.

Two, the Sawyer play was obviously legendary. I really dislike that dude. I think his character is far short of what a good buckeye fan deserves. He runs his mouth all the time, has choked in some big situations.. but that's as legendary of a play as you can ask for in a perfect moment. Props for that.. .but it also followed two plays the later the dumbest 2nd and goal from the 1 play i've ever seen. Why? Why in the world with OSU's defense clearly that quick tracking guys all game would you pitch backwards and think you'll outrun their D? Moronic.. idiotic.. stupid.. great play by the buckeyes.. beyond stupid play call on so many levels.

That's my weekend throw up and Buckeye's in the title game vomit expulsion. I think the real title game was Friday night and OSU will win this one easily. Notre Dame is pretty banged up and their offensive line pretty messy. OSU is pretty talented and if they were going to fall, it was going to be Friday as Texas had the talent in the right places to pull a win, but the talent gap for this game is far bigger. The only thing that may keep it close is Freeman outcoaching Day, i'm not sure that's possible with a talent gap this big. OSU fans, enjoy the title. The joy of the experience is better from moments like the Sawyer play and happening around good friends or family. I'm not sure how long the joy lasts, but in some cases it can go beyond 1871 days. O:-)

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Re: CFP CG #5 Ohio Stata vs #7 Notre Dame
« Reply #52 on: January 13, 2025, 11:42:00 AM »
All I know from everything I’ve read and heard is that the Irish are DOMED!!!!!!

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Re: CFPCG: #8 Ohio State (13-2) vs. #7 Notre Dame (13-1) Game Week
« Reply #53 on: January 13, 2025, 12:26:08 PM »
This is why I have always appreciated this group. Yes, rival fans tend to slug it out on here occasionally, but for the most part a reasonable group. The game was that close and a couple plays different could have lead to a far different outcome. I can't believe it's the case, but coaching was a huge factor. I have thought Sarkisian had a James Franklin feel to him and it's leaning more towards that right now.

Couple plays that changed the game - The screen to Henderson to basically end the first half. Honestly a brilliant call when the defensive call was beyond stupid on so many level. As in illogical, senseless, unintelligent, dumb, irresponsible, etc. Blitz everyone and have your DBs start the play running backwards? wow.

Two, the Sawyer play was obviously legendary. I really dislike that dude. I think his character is far short of what a good buckeye fan deserves. He runs his mouth all the time, has choked in some big situations.. but that's as legendary of a play as you can ask for in a perfect moment. Props for that.. .but it also followed two plays the later the dumbest 2nd and goal from the 1 play i've ever seen. Why? Why in the world with OSU's defense clearly that quick tracking guys all game would you pitch backwards and think you'll outrun their D? Moronic.. idiotic.. stupid.. great play by the buckeyes.. beyond stupid play call on so many levels.

That's my weekend throw up and Buckeye's in the title game vomit expulsion. I think the real title game was Friday night and OSU will win this one easily. Notre Dame is pretty banged up and their offensive line pretty messy. OSU is pretty talented and if they were going to fall, it was going to be Friday as Texas had the talent in the right places to pull a win, but the talent gap for this game is far bigger. The only thing that may keep it close is Freeman outcoaching Day, i'm not sure that's possible with a talent gap this big. OSU fans, enjoy the title. The joy of the experience is better from moments like the Sawyer play and happening around good friends or family. I'm not sure how long the joy lasts, but in some cases it can go beyond 1871 days. O:-)it’s funny, one man’s terrorist is another man’s patriot.
For sure -that game could have gone either way.

it’s funny, one man’s terrorist is another man’s patriot.  I could see why you don’t like Jack Sawyer 

ironically, the reason he is so loved by the team, and the coaches and the fans is precisely because they love his character.  They view him as a true leader, and he does so much outside of the team for the community. 

I would also say he has made himself a lot of money during this playoff run. I can’t tell you how many sacks, batted down passes and excellent plays he has made.    The play before the strip sack is another place of Texas is that he ruined 


as far as Notre Dame I would not count my chickens just yet. They are phenomenal at bringing the game to a slog.  Both Michigan and Texas proved that you can really slow down the OSU offense by doing that   
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Re: CFPCG: #8 Ohio State (13-2) vs. #7 Notre Dame (13-1) Game Week
« Reply #54 on: January 13, 2025, 12:27:23 PM »
The real title game was in the Rose Bowl on New Year's Day.

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Re: CFPCG: #8 Ohio State (13-2) vs. #7 Notre Dame (13-1) Game Week
« Reply #55 on: January 13, 2025, 12:55:37 PM »

it’s funny, one man’s terrorist is another man’s patriot.  I could see why you don’t like Jack Sawyer 

ironically, the reason he is so loved by the team, and the coaches and the fans is precisely because they love his character.  They view him as a true leader, and he does so much outside of the team for the community. 

I would also say he has made himself a lot of money during this playoff run. I can’t tell you how many sacks, batted down passes and excellent plays he has made.    The play before the strip sack is another place of Texas is that he ruined 


For the most part, he's been pretty irrelevant in my following of the game, until everything that happened with the flag planting, how he handled it and then people tracking him and showing him running his mouth with Tennessee players coming onto the field. He may be a great locker room guy and may be great in the community, but on the field, the dude runs his mouth too much and acts in a way i don't like. To give you reference, my closest friend is a lifelong Buckeye and my text to him was "he's your Hunter Dickinson."  My point was, being in your uniform, you have to root for him but if he was on any other team, you'd really dislike how he comes across. It makes it much easier to overlook negative characteristics when they make big plays in big moments. That TD play would be similar to hitting a game winner at the buzzer in the final four.. I would always only see the positive in Dickinson if that were the case.  So I get it and I don't knock anyone that supports him. I just look at all the other Buckeyes over the years and there's been so many other guys I wish would have been wearing maize and blue because of their talent and personality. Sawyer is definitely not that for me.

 

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