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Topic: CBB - Apparently expanding the NCAAT to 76 from 68 teams is happening

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847badgerfan

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Illinois had a lot of international professionals last season. I count 7.

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JJ and TJ Watt each have a year left. Wisconsin is gonna have a killer D pretty soon.
Hmmm. I didn't even know they played basketball! 

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Hmmm. I didn't even know they played basketball!
They would lead NCAA Basketball in tackles per game but probably only play a few MPG before fouling out.  

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Hmmm. I didn't even know they played basketball!
You know this is gonna go to football, yes?

It's already in hoops and hockey, among other sports.
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You know this is gonna go to football, yes?
It was a joke. 


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I do think those Watt boys could be pretty good at hoops, or anything else. Great athletes.

UW needs them to start having a lot of boys.

JJ has one, Derek has two (1 girl), and TJ none (1 girl).
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Would you include them if they had CHOSEN to play four little-sisters-of-the-poor instead of Michigan, Arizona, Purdue, and Houston and thus finished 20-13?  Auburn at 20-13 with four wins over crap OOC opponents instead of four losses to #1 and #2 seeds (M, Zona, PU, Houston) absolutely would have made the tournament and the message that sends is bad for the sport.

But is leaving Auburn out really that much of a resounding, chilling message to the sport? With so many at-large bids, the committee can afford a few debatable inclusions/exclusions because once the Tournament gets going, it cleans itself up, with realistically only the highest seeds having much of chance to keeping advancing.

The message sent was not: don't over-schedule tough opponents. The message sent was that if you schedule tough opponents you still have win at a competitive rate. For better or worse, yes, a 20-13 Auburn team boosted by replacing a few of their tougher opponents with crap probably helps by appearing on the surface to be winning at that more competitive rate, but it doesn't address the 7-11 conference record that still justified a case to keep Auburn out. The committee should not be giving a program credit for SIXTEEN losses; blowing ALL sixteen of those chances is more than enough reason to not be bothered if they missed the tournament.

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But is leaving Auburn out really that much of a resounding, chilling message to the sport? With so many at-large bids, the committee can afford a few debatable inclusions/exclusions because once the Tournament gets going, it cleans itself up, with realistically only the highest seeds having much of chance to keeping advancing.

The message sent was not: don't over-schedule tough opponents. The message sent was that if you schedule tough opponents you still have win at a competitive rate. For better or worse, yes, a 20-13 Auburn team boosted by replacing a few of their tougher opponents with crap probably helps by appearing on the surface to be winning at that more competitive rate, but it doesn't address the 7-11 conference record that still justified a case to keep Auburn out. The committee should not be giving a program credit for SIXTEEN losses; blowing ALL sixteen of those chances is more than enough reason to not be bothered if they missed the tournament.

Looking at who got left out, it probably didn’t make much difference.

Their quality wins were still bubble level. This wasn’t even UW a few years back when NET and record sunk them.

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Sorry for slightly derailing the topic, but this doesn't warrant its own thread and I don't know where else to put it. 

LSU/Will Wade is recruiting a bunch of international players, guys who have played in the EuroLeague and other national equivalents of their own NBA, or something like that.  Professional outfits, I mean. 

My question is, when did any of this become legal?  I thought players who were professional and/or players who ever had professional representation were precluded by the NCAA from playing collegiate sports?  As far as I knew, you couldn't even declare for a draft and be eligible to continue playing college ball.  Apparently now you can be pro, at least overseas, and then come to the States and play within the confines of the NCAA?

When?  Why?  How? 

This seems......wrong.  I knew cfb was being ruined.  This feels like a big step in the wrong direction for cbb.  Maybe it's not new and I'm just now finding out about it.  But.....yuck. 
Historically, I believe players who were some level of semi-professional were allowed in. Euro teams have all these club levels, so I presume if you’re on a lower level, the comp was not high enough to make you a pro.

But it seems like that floor has dropped in recent years. Not sure why.

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perhaps because almost everyone is getting paid
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perhaps because almost everyone is getting paid
I mean, there’s still some edge, for now. 

I honestly wonder if the Euro stuff is so disorganized, they just threw up their hands 

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So as of yesterday, LSU bb has added a guy who has already played at Arizona St., Ole Miss, and UTSA. 

And then possibly a guy who is 25 years old with extensive EuroLeague experience, if he's granted eligibility.  He was selected #47 by the Celtics in the 2020 NBA draft during his second season with Hapoel Tel Aviv.  He chose to remain overseas, with stops in Serbia, Turkey, Germany, and a return to Tel Aviv, and is also a regular member of Israel's national team.  Point being....he's a pro, any way you look at it, regardless of if he ever played in the NBA.  And he's looking at a $5 mil NIL deal if it happens.

In both cases.....

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...ffs

 

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