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Topic: California Asembly passed bill to allow players likeness compensation

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Re: California Asembly passed bill to allow players likeness compensation
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2019, 07:32:23 PM »
I've said this for a long time, and I'll say it again:

If the NCAA didn't fix their model, someone else will fix it for them, and they're not going to like how it gets fixed. And it appears that the California Legislature has gotten around to doing the fixing.

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Re: California Asembly passed bill to allow players likeness compensation
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2019, 08:29:06 PM »
I don't think California is going to have to stand by itself or strongarm anyone.  I think there are plenty of states/universities that will likely enact similar law.
you're probably right, but I'd really like to see the NCAA along with ASU, Zona, the Ducks, WSU, Washington, and Utah to say, "Hey, you're formidable.  Go it on your own.  Good Luck!"
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Re: California Asembly passed bill to allow players likeness compensation
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2019, 08:40:12 PM »
Go California! Hopefully, other states pass similar legislation. Hopefully that NCAA Football video game comes back too. Might have to buy a PS5 or Xbox 3 if that does. I don't play video games much- but I was addicted to that one way back in the day. Think it's been almost 10 years since they released an NCAA football game.
You can get updated rosters every year, if you input the right gamertag.  NCAA 14 becomes NCAA19 real easy.
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Re: California Asembly passed bill to allow players likeness compensation
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2019, 08:42:21 PM »
Well if this won't get a B10 team into the playoff, nothing will!  :57:
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Re: California Asembly passed bill to allow players likeness compensation
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2019, 08:47:08 PM »
ASU & Zona & Colorado could join the Big 12
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Re: California Asembly passed bill to allow players likeness compensation
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2019, 09:12:37 PM »
ASU & Zona & Colorado could join the Big 12

I think it's likely the state of Texas would do something similar to California.

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Re: California Asembly passed bill to allow players likeness compensation
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2019, 09:21:25 PM »
friggin liberals

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Re: California Asembly passed bill to allow players likeness compensation
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2019, 09:33:32 PM »
friggin liberals

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Right to work, and uncapped compensation in a free market, aren't exactly liberal concepts. :)

But that's not the main reason Texas would adopt such a rule.  The bottom line is that allowing payments of any kind to players would be a tremendous competitive advantage if not everyone is allowed to do it. College football is big business in the state of Texas, with more FBS programs than any other state (almost double each of the next two closest in California and Florida).  The state legislature isn't about to let California or anyone else get ahead of them where a prolonged competitive advantage might be gained.

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Re: California Asembly passed bill to allow players likeness compensation
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2019, 09:34:06 PM »
Former Nebraska State Senator and total Maverick and rabble rouser Ernie Chambers was way ahead of his time on this.   He regularly proposed bills like this and once tried to get athletes designated as State employees.   Not enough of his breatheren wanted to walk that plank risking NCAA eligibility. 

He first proposed this in 1986, and carried on about it into the 2000s. 

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Re: California Asembly passed bill to allow players likeness compensation
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2019, 09:45:41 PM »
the Cali assembly might have as much success as Ernie
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Re: California Asembly passed bill to allow players likeness compensation
« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2019, 09:47:41 PM »
But that's not the main reason Texas would adopt such a rule.  The bottom line is that allowing payments of any kind to players would be a tremendous competitive advantage if not everyone is allowed to do it. College football is big business in the state of Texas, with more FBS programs than any other state (almost double each of the next two closest in California and Florida).  The state legislature isn't about to let California or anyone else get ahead of them where a prolonged competitive advantage might be gained.
I'd guess the NCAA will either be all in or all out

the NCAA mission is regulating competitive advantage
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Re: California Asembly passed bill to allow players likeness compensation
« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2019, 09:57:43 PM »
The NCAA derives its power solely and entirely from its member institutions.  If the member institutions decide to revoke some or all of that power, the member institutions are all but guaranteed to be able to do so.  Georgia and Oklahoma proved this beyond all doubt in 1984.

The state of California is enabling universities within its borders to take that another step further.  

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Re: California Asembly passed bill to allow players likeness compensation
« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2019, 10:00:32 PM »
I'd guess the NCAA will either be all in or all out

the NCAA mission is regulating competitive advantage
Ehhh, 9 out of 10 top 10 teams are helmet programs and/or new helmets (UF, FSU, Miamiesque) in any given week/season. 




Remember when TCU was good?  That was cute.  The next time they have  a 10-win season, will anyone be claiming "they're back!"???  No.  Because they're not Texas.  The competitive advantage is a joke (P5 vs G5, SEC & B10 helmets vs the rest of the country, Big State U vs State Tech, etc.).


The idea of competitive balance in college football is like a grandparent ribbing a 14 year old if Santa is going to visit him this year.  It's a lie, it's awkward, and it's unnecessary.
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Re: California Asembly passed bill to allow players likeness compensation
« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2019, 10:02:07 PM »
The NCAA derives its power solely and entirely from its member institutions.  If the member institutions decide to revoke some or all of that power, the member institutions are all but guaranteed to be able to do so.  Georgia and Oklahoma proved this beyond all doubt in 1984.

The state of California is enabling universities within its borders to take that another step further. 
Well, remember the idea of the P5 programs + ND leaving the NCAA and starting their own thing?  Maybe this is the start of that.  


Alas, if that happens, it might be similar to getting rid of all the illegal immigrants in one fell swoop - the G5 schools do all the jobs none of the P5 programs want to do.....


(not getting political here, just seeing a parallel)
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