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Cincydawg

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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #602 on: December 29, 2019, 05:05:49 PM »
I was excited to see football on TV when I flipped it on, and then I groaned to realize today is Sunday, and it is the NFL.  The college game is changing fairly rapidly today, probably not in every sense how "we" would like it, but it is still the superior product (I think).  I'm not sure if that will still be true in 2030.


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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #603 on: December 29, 2019, 05:15:36 PM »
Are you kidding me?

Show me on Clemson's schedule what compares to...

 Michigan....
Wisconsin x2....
PSU.....

Ohio State couldn't rest their top players by half, like Clemson could.

I literally just showed you 9 games where they could have rested their starters by halftime.  Yeah, Ohio St played a tougher schedule but you are acting like Ohio St was in a weekly dogfight.  They weren’t.  Of all the excuses I’ve read in here your “minutes played” is the most outlandish.

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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #604 on: December 29, 2019, 05:39:21 PM »
Every competitive game comes down to 2-3-4 conspicuous and probably 8-9-10 inconspicuous "what ifs".  It's the nature of the sport (and every sport).  This one had several of the conspicuous types obviously, and they merit some discussion.  Ten years from now, five even, all that will be remembered is that it was a close game, if that, and Clemson won, and not even that if LSU beats them.

Did I mention the 1984 Cotton Bowl?
Is it me or do we have a healthy habit of indirectly whipping Utee with the same three sticks ('84 Cotton,  '91 Cotton, and Route 66 games.).   We all have our wounds, but man we love talking about those three games.

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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #605 on: December 29, 2019, 06:11:53 PM »
Utee can take it, he gets a lickin' and keeps on postin'.

Think about Alabama in that Auburn game, that one had some, um, curious referring decisions as well.  Probably cost them a playoff slot, perhaps?

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« Reply #606 on: December 29, 2019, 06:20:05 PM »
Well no shit. Also three 50/50 calls that all go against OSU and cause a 21 point swing also affect the outcome.
YES!
You're missing the point:  one thing is in your hands and the other isn't.  You worry about what you can control.
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #607 on: December 29, 2019, 06:39:03 PM »
There are bowl games tomorrow, including the Orange!  Yay.  This is really confusing to me.

Why does Lockheed sponsor a bowl?  Am I a potential customer for an F-35B?

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« Reply #608 on: December 29, 2019, 06:40:47 PM »
YES!
You're missing the point:  one thing is in your hands and the other isn't.  You worry about what you can control.
This is a message board not a practice facility. What do you think people are going to talk about? Don't be annoying.

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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #609 on: December 29, 2019, 06:57:37 PM »
Why does Lockheed sponsor a bowl?  Am I a potential customer for an F-35B?
you know the answer to that... 

This is a message board not a practice facility. What do you think people are going to talk about? Don't be annoying.
exactly.. 
today, my facebook feed is lit up with comments about the games yesterday (the CFP games).  they are all moaning about the officiating- and i guess that's fine.  what strikes me odd about it is the majority of these folks don't really follow the game, and watched maybe three or four games this season- which is to say they went to a party somebody threw for this or that game and mingled while drinking a lot.... they didn't even watch those games, in other words. 

as soon as i saw the SEC team officiating in the tOSU/Clemson game, i KNEW there would be tomfujjery to take place.  They are bad.  It's not just one game, and it's not that often it seems to favor one team... and to be as fair as i can- we're now watching on 72" 4K televisions with a massive array of camera angles and replays on demand...... have these things always been this bad? i'm thinking, yeah... those refs are human. those folks complaining about the calls just haven't watched the games enough to know how constant this theme is. 

now on the flip side- if you want to see a team get jobbed by the zebras, go watch the UT/Bama game from this year... there is but one explanation for the calls in that game- and though i may appear biased, i'll let you decide.  I've seen bama get calls and the same refs with eagle eyes miss obvious ones.  

But... alas, again i say- if one team is decisively better than the other, the refs can't change the outcome.  personally, i think the three best teams in the game this season, little numbers beside their names or not- LSU, Clemson, tOSU- in whatever order you want to give them.  in a perfect world, if LSU can beat Clemson, i'd like to see them validate that by beating tOSU too.... but that ain't an option.  

and something else to add... i know Herby was saying it, but... that field was obviously slick, and the trip tackle on the tOSU breakway run wouldn't have happened without it.  That unto itself is a factor in the outcome... the field itself.  

i recall, '95 maybe? UT played tOSU and beat them like a drum in a bowl game.  they were penalized early costing them 15 yards on the kick after half for 'improper equipment'.  they were wearing cleats too long, and that field was super sloppy... it looked like UT was faster by a massive margin, but... they could simply get traction.  was it cheating? serendipitous mistake? if anyone who watched that game doesn't believe it a factor, they'd be crazy.  and this, from a UT fan... 

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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #610 on: December 29, 2019, 07:05:50 PM »
I'm not into conspiracies because anything involving more than two people get complex in a hurry and someone would eventually talk.  I doubt the refs are intentionally throwing games either way.  They may be bad, the certainly miss things, but I don't think it is with any intent to favor A over B.  There COULD be the odd exception where some ref is coopted by folks who break legs, but even then it gets a bit obvious too quickly to be safe, and one ref might not have a chance to change an outcome.

In my experience, the larger a group of humans becomes, the more inanity and incompetence surfaces, like the Peter Principle.  

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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #611 on: December 29, 2019, 07:35:34 PM »
I literally just showed you 9 games where they could have rested their starters by halftime.  Yeah, Ohio St played a tougher schedule but you are acting like Ohio St was in a weekly dogfight.  They weren’t.  Of all the excuses I’ve read in here your “minutes played” is the most outlandish.
You showed half time scores, not who they played. 

If you don't think the weight of playing a full season with a stronger schedule doesn't play a part at the end of the season, then please, by all means, tell that to the committee so we can get more teams in the playoff, and wipe away the theory that RB's have a shorter playing span, and the more hits you take, the more likely you are to get injured.

I'll be waiting for your submission. 

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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #612 on: December 29, 2019, 07:46:38 PM »
Yes, he showed half time scores, because that was his point, not who they played.


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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #613 on: December 29, 2019, 07:53:26 PM »
i recall, '95 maybe? UT played tOSU and beat them like a drum in a bowl game.  they were penalized early costing them 15 yards on the kick after half for 'improper equipment'.  they were wearing cleats too long, and that field was super sloppy... it looked like UT was faster by a massive margin, but... they could simply get traction.  was it cheating? serendipitous mistake? if anyone who watched that game doesn't believe it a factor, they'd be crazy.  and this, from a UT fan...
There are tOSU fans who still refer to UT as "Tennecleat" or "Tennecheat" based on that game.

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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #614 on: December 29, 2019, 07:58:22 PM »
You showed half time scores, not who they played.

If you don't think the weight of playing a full season with a stronger schedule doesn't play a part at the end of the season, then please, by all means, tell that to the committee so we can get more teams in the playoff, and wipe away the theory that RB's have a shorter playing span, and the more hits you take, the more likely you are to get injured.

I'll be waiting for your submission.
Meh, people wait for the result and then make up reasons why the result happened.  If Ohio St wins a close game you are probably citing being “battle tested” as a reason why. They lose and all of a sudden they are just too drained from a brutal schedule.  

You made earlier claims about Ohio St having to go into the 4th quarter almost every week.  I showed that wasn’t close to being true.

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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #615 on: December 29, 2019, 08:01:48 PM »

Why does Lockheed sponsor a bowl?  Am I a potential customer for an F-35B?
why did BASF run ads, or 3M, or any # of other B2B corporations?

 

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