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bayareabadger

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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #112 on: December 19, 2019, 09:30:25 AM »
Every mainstream sports article does this.  To find prudent, educated sports articles, you have to dig deep.
This is not a mainstream article. It's some jack-wagon blog post. But several pages of discussion referencing it makes clear why this garbage continues to exist.

(Honestly, the vast majority of mainstream articles are rather boring recitations of facts, accounts of events and what principle actors said. Most articles are just bland because they give you the news and not much else. Folks just can't resist the other stuff)

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« Reply #113 on: December 19, 2019, 09:31:44 AM »
Yeah, obviously, an ideal would be to invite a team 100+ miles distant and have a night game.  Most would stay the night.

The Peach Bowl back when it was a minor bowl usually did a good job with this.  It was on NYE and they had SEC-ACC pairings, and it was the rare bowl that usually sold out.

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« Reply #114 on: December 19, 2019, 09:32:39 AM »
So that part of the article, at least, is just B.S.  That's not surprising.  I was surprised to see that part asserted in the first place.  Fans will travel long distances in great numbers for various reasons.  But going to a medium bowl after a hugely disappointing season is not one of those reasons.

I do buy the argument that Texas-Notre Dame is a much more attractive game than either Texas-Utah or Iowa State-Notre Dame.  If I were running ESPN, I would care about that.  Throwaway bowl games are a dime a dozen.  Matching up two helmet teams, even in disappointing seasons (in different ways) for both of them, in a medium-tier (and presumably medium-cost) bowl is an opportunity not to be casually thrown away.  Or so it seems to me.

If I were king of ESPN, I'd have pulled every lever I had to get a better matchup in the Orange Bowl this year.  I remember that for one Orange Bowl early in this decade tickets were going for $5, and they still had a half-empty stadium.
Never drive 80-90 miles to see the Horns?  Those are some T-shirt fans indeed.

When you see such a thing that surprises you, uses it as an indicator. In fact, when you read "Texas probably sat on the phone like a girl who was asked to homecoming by her best friend before her dream crush made his move," you should step back and say, is there any reason this isn't some dummy spouting off? And when the answer is no, you should close the browser tab. 

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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #115 on: December 19, 2019, 09:33:51 AM »
(Honestly, the vast majority of mainstream articles are rather boring recitations of facts, accounts of events and what principle actors said. Most articles are just bland because they give you the news and not much else. Folks just can't resist the other stuff)
I see more and more articles labeled as "Analysis", both on sports sites and news sites.  They should just call it "Opinion".

I know ESPN et al. have to fill a lot of space every day, and I understand the writers have to contrive SOMETHING to get clicks, but obviously, much of it is not worth reading for the reasons you cite, it's obvious stuff, facts know, combined with an eye catching rather outrageous "prediction".

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« Reply #116 on: December 19, 2019, 09:54:27 AM »
When you see such a thing that surprises you, uses it as an indicator. In fact, when you read "Texas probably sat on the phone like a girl who was asked to homecoming by her best friend before her dream crush made his move," you should step back and say, is there any reason this isn't some dummy spouting off? And when the answer is no, you should close the browser tab.
Ha!  Did it really say that?  I guess I skimmed past that bit.

It might not be accurate, but I gotta admit I love the imagery!

In reality, our dream crush is the CFP, and he ain't calling any time soon.

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« Reply #117 on: December 19, 2019, 10:27:50 AM »
This is correct, thought bowl promotors tend to represent cities, and hotels are something they want used. So setting up driving bowls has some drawbacks.
Eh. I think most bowl promoters are just out for themselves. And they've rigged the system such that every bowl makes money (via TV revenue, forced ticket sales to each team, etc) and lines their own pockets as promotors. 

Beyond that, I doubt they care about hotels, but additional attendance and concessions beyond the forced sales is best for their bottom line. 

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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #118 on: December 19, 2019, 11:09:36 AM »
Who are the "bowl promoters" generally speaking?  Do bowls make profits that they share?  Or are they often "city and business leaders"?  I think quite a few are non-profits, they send whatever money they make to some charity.  Maybe that isn't the case any more.

My guess is most minor bowl folks have an interest in promoting business within the city.  Why else does Shreveport have a bowl game?


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« Reply #119 on: December 19, 2019, 11:41:58 AM »
Eh. I think most bowl promoters are just out for themselves. And they've rigged the system such that every bowl makes money (via TV revenue, forced ticket sales to each team, etc) and lines their own pockets as promotors.

Beyond that, I doubt they care about hotels, but additional attendance and concessions beyond the forced sales is best for their bottom line.
A lot of the small ones tend to be linked to local chambers of commerce and such. 

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« Reply #120 on: December 19, 2019, 11:50:56 AM »
I think both bowl games tomorrow are owned by ESPN and put on more or less so ESPN has content.

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« Reply #121 on: December 19, 2019, 12:12:46 PM »
Who are the "bowl promoters" generally speaking?  Do bowls make profits that they share?  Or are they often "city and business leaders"?  I think quite a few are non-profits, they send whatever money they make to some charity.  Maybe that isn't the case any more.

My guess is most minor bowl folks have an interest in promoting business within the city.  Why else does Shreveport have a bowl game?


Yeah, whatever money they make, after they pay the exorbitant salaries of the executives promoting the bowl...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/12/14/bowl-game-executive-pay-soaring-around-1-million/949198001/


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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #122 on: December 19, 2019, 12:14:50 PM »
Yeah, whatever money they make, after they pay the exorbitant salaries of the executives promoting the bowl...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/12/14/bowl-game-executive-pay-soaring-around-1-million/949198001/


My cynical side is that they operate some sort of small charity to justify their existence, but most of the money made goes towards salaries for the various people involved.

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« Reply #123 on: December 19, 2019, 12:19:51 PM »
My cynical side is that they operate some sort of small charity to justify their existence, but most of the money made goes towards salaries for the various people involved.
The ESPN College Football Podcast had the Peach Bowl CEO on, and it was hilarious trying to listen to him justify his own existence.

It's good work, if you can get it

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« Reply #124 on: December 19, 2019, 12:23:55 PM »
My cynical side is that they operate some sort of small charity to justify their existence, but most of the money made goes towards salaries for the various people involved.
Sounds very familiar, unfortunately. Precisely why I investigate the hell out of them before I open my wallet.
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #125 on: December 19, 2019, 12:24:52 PM »
In reality, our dream crush is the CFP, and he ain't calling any time soon.
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