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FearlessF

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Re: Bowl Games SoC
« Reply #462 on: January 02, 2018, 01:57:00 PM »
Those complaining about Alabama/Ohio State need to do their research.  In the early Nov committee poll, Bama was #1 and OSU was #9.  You're telling me from that point on the difference between their outcomes was enough for OSU to overtake Bama?  

the first poll or the 2nd to last poll don't matter a damn
the only poll that matters is the final poll
and the final poll has absolutely NO reference to any other poll..
in other words, there is no "overtaking"  all teams are voted on once in the final poll.
committee members don't rationalize each movement, up or down, for each team
they simply pick the 4 teams they like best in the final poll.  And then give us their reasoning
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« Reply #463 on: January 02, 2018, 02:32:54 PM »
when you have a year like the OSU/PSU/Michigan year where all three finished tied 7-1 in conference play.
This NEVER happened.  The Wolverines have never so much as tied for a divisional championship and haven't won a conference championship since current freshmen were in kindergarten.  

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« Reply #464 on: January 02, 2018, 02:40:10 PM »
That's just cold man. Kicking them when they are down like that and all. Cold.
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Re: Bowl Games SoC
« Reply #465 on: January 02, 2018, 02:40:58 PM »
Well, the good news for Georgia and Bama is... whoever loses, they'll still be able to chant S-E-C after the game. 

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Re: Bowl Games SoC
« Reply #466 on: January 02, 2018, 02:43:50 PM »
well, we may have 2 teams from the same conference, but at least they are not from the same division nor is it a rematch from earlier in the season
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Re: Bowl Games SoC
« Reply #467 on: January 02, 2018, 02:44:22 PM »
It's like a bad season of a reality show where the host just makes up rules as they go along.

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Re: Bowl Games SoC
« Reply #468 on: January 02, 2018, 02:47:43 PM »
If Ohio State was #1 and Alabama was #9 in early November, would it be wrong for Bama to overtake OSU?  Sure.  It's too much ground to cover in such a short time, given what each team did.  
This logic makes no sense to me.  What if Ohio State had a back-loaded schedule and went undefeated through a bunch of cupcakes in September and October then went 1-3 against opposition with a pulse in November.  It would make sense for Ohio State to get overtaken then wouldn't it?  The same applies in reverse.  
Part of this is just the nature of the polls anyway.  #1 in early November is rather frequently nothing more than a team that started high and hasn't lost even if "not losing" isn't much of an accomplishment because they haven't really played anybody.  

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« Reply #469 on: January 02, 2018, 03:00:09 PM »
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Re: Bowl Games SoC
« Reply #470 on: January 02, 2018, 03:07:43 PM »
i haven't looked at a line, yet... i would guess bama is the heavy favorite.  

i've said all season since watching Georgia dismantle MSU, that they have hands down the best backfield in the nation.  Bama is right behind them.  I've said UGA has the best starting defensive unit in the nation.  Bama is right behind them.  

the difference is bama has depth galore except at LB.  

I don't think Bama's O is near as good as OU's- and i'd guess UGA's O is every bit as good as Clemson's.  

UGA deserves to be there- their only loss they avenged.  it will be wildly unpopular to say it here, in B10 country, but... AU, for that three week spell, could have beaten anyone in the nation.  They were that tight with all components banging on all eight... they caught both UGA and Bama unaware, and UGA played their worst game of the season.  Bama, however, were playing well (but shorthanded in the LB corps- no, i don't feel sorry for them in the least) when they lost to AU.  UGA played well when they met AU the second time- as most SEC fans who'd payed attention all season realized- but caught an AU with a battered backfield...

proxy is just plain dumb.  it's a rabbit hole.  Using AU as a measure between bama and uga just doesn't work, especially due to health of AU and dumbassedness of UGA their first meeting.  

to be clear, UGA played their second worst game of the season last night.  they were, however, helped tremendously by the zebras.  go back and watch- the holding OU was getting by with in the first half was astounding- and not in unimportant areas, but right there when the ball carrier breezed by... i can't believe it went without comment or notice- but watch it for yourselves.... i was about to post last night that 'the powers that be are ensuring a OU win'... there was one holding call against OU that i'm aware of that came late in the game.  there should have been no less than a half dozen the first half alone.  want to know what happened to UGA's D?  There you have it.  I ain't even going to argue about it because it was real and present, and anyone who isn't a homer should have seen it just as plainly.  understand, i don't have a dog in the fight- bama, uga, ou, clemson- doesn't matter to me one way or the other- just calling it like i see it.  uga was getting mugged last night up until the third- and then they figured out a way to deal with it.  

OU hung 48 on UGA- that was totally unexpected and pretty startling... but Bama ain't OU offensively.  UGA hung 54 on OU... but OU damn sure ain't bama defensively.  

it's my opinion that UGA can hang at least 17 on bama, and bama should be able to hang 21 on UGA.  it's basically a home game for the dawgs, but that shouldn't matter much as it isn't going to be played between the hedges and bama knows that field likely better than UGA- and will have just as many or maybe more fans to rock it..  i'd have to guess there to be a intangible score of around ten to contend with, and it's with great unfortune i'm thinking bama's experience in the big game is enough to steal every one of them from UGA... my brain tells me bama 31 to uga 17, but..... i just plain like the way UGA plays when they are comfortable, and i think they can keep it together... and i gotta call a UGA win... 24 to 17.  furthermore, i figure uga will pull a MSU esqu punch early, and force bama to play from behind- either with a TB streak through the center (those LB's are no match for Michelle, Chub, or Swift) or by hitting isolated flag routes from the outside.  they are good at that, and if a so called 50/50 pass is true, they ought to break off 25~30 a pop until bama moves the safety's up to assist, and then...... the TB streak up the center.  i straight up haven't seen that streak play since early november, but it is something they run to perfection.  

insofar as bama 'deserving' or not..... doesn't matter at this point.  it is what it is.  there are a LOT of writer's and networks that predicted bama since pre-season, and they're going to do what they're going to do to make themselves look smarter than they are.  plus, there aren't a whole lot of teams out there who could beat them if the truth be told.  the team with the greatest chance right now is UGA.  the ONLY team with a chance is UGA. 

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Re: Bowl Games SoC
« Reply #471 on: January 02, 2018, 03:26:11 PM »
Those complaining about Alabama/Ohio State need to do their research.  In the early Nov committee poll, Bama was #1 and OSU was #9.  You're telling me from that point on the difference between their outcomes was enough for OSU to overtake Bama?  

It's silly.  And hey, at least I didn't use 'deplorable', right?
You are asking me to take early committee rankings as having any value. 
It makes little sense to engage about it because they don’t. 

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Re: Bowl Games SoC
« Reply #472 on: January 02, 2018, 03:44:51 PM »
It isn't a conference thing. It's a helmet team thing.  There are still a lot of people who think Ohio St shouldn't have got in in 2014 or 2016. Teams like Ohio St and Bama get the benefit of the doubt.

The 2014 team wasn't as good as the 2015 that got left out with 1 loss, so they got screwed, if your comparing to Bama this year. 

But the 2014 team got lucky to be voted in and housed Bama and Oregon.

2016 OSU was the weakest, but by far "deserved" it more than either 2014/2015 teams. 

That's what makes this hard to swallow for most teams, the best? Most deserving? And teams like UCF or Houston that have zero chance no matter what. 

If your Alabama and ur 11-1 your in, no matter who you play or how you look. I'm tired of hearing "Alabamas healthy now" what about teams that had to play with hurt players, had to play 13 games, it's like it's only a factor for Bama. 

Bama is supposedly the deepest team in the country, why does them being healthy even matter when their third string is superior to say UCF?

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Re: Bowl Games SoC
« Reply #473 on: January 02, 2018, 03:53:39 PM »
As far as the title game I think UGA has a chance because they are more balanced on offense.

I don't think you have to be a great team to stop Alabama. They have 1 WR, no TE, good but not great running backs and they'll run their qb 20 times. If I'm Georgia I'd be pissed if I gave up over 20 to this Bama team.

UGA just needs to run right at them, hit some play action and don't give Bama a short field with turnovers. 

It might only take 17 to win.

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Re: Bowl Games SoC
« Reply #474 on: January 02, 2018, 04:26:02 PM »
I as well would like to see a 6-8 team playoff with P5 autobids, but I also believe that the committee has been validated this year. 

Bama looks like they will win it all. 

The two teams that had an argument to get in over them played each other in the Cotton Bowl. OSU had an elite D-Line, but that was about it. And USC was just hot garbage. Wisconsin and PSU were both much stronger opponents than USC. 
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Re: Bowl Games SoC
« Reply #475 on: January 02, 2018, 04:43:21 PM »
Bama played lights-out last night, at least defensively.  UGA doesn't have Clemson's defense so I think they can and will be run on, early and often.  I wouldn't be shocked if Hurts led the team in rushing.

Michel and Chubb will probably combine to get ~120 yards on the ground - Bama is wanting to force Fromm to try to beat them.  He won't be able to.

Bama won't do much on offense either, but they won't have to.  Bama has the edge defensively so I think that will set up short fields.  I'd guess they'd win 20-14 in a game that's probably not as close as the final score would indicate. 

 

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