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« Reply #462 on: December 30, 2018, 10:47:09 AM »
by today's standards obviously, but at the time those early 70's muscle cars were great vehicles

early 70's submarines or microwaves suffer by comparison as well
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« Reply #463 on: December 30, 2018, 10:49:00 AM »
Yeah I'm not much of a gear head. But I do have an older brother who restores old classic cars. He seems to favor the really old ones up to and including the seventies. He bemoans working on anything more modern than the 80s, and can't understand why anyone would willingly own such a substandard vehicle. 
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #464 on: December 30, 2018, 11:33:01 AM »
Everyone knew ND was a paper tiger. They were only in the "four best teams" because they squeaked through into being undefeated. Just like they did in 2012. Similar results. 
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #465 on: December 30, 2018, 11:46:18 AM »
A current Honda Accord will outrun most of those early 70's "muscle cars", with a few exceptions.

And be a LOT nicer to drive and handle curves.

We take for granted how fast current cars are these days.  I had a 1973 Nova with a 350 in it that the mags said would run 0-60 in 8.2 seconds.  That is the same as my old Chevy Sonic that the daughter has now.  The GTI would leave just about anything of that era in the weeds.
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« Reply #466 on: December 30, 2018, 12:09:54 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on December 30, 2018, 11:33:01 AM
Everyone knew ND was a paper tiger. They were only in the "four best teams" because they squeaked through into being undefeated. Just like they did in 2012. Similar results.
So... this comment got me thinkings, about the questions of paper tigers, deserving and such. 
Looking at something that should measure strength and such (S&P+), your No. 4 team was down 28-0 in 17 minutes. Your No. 5 team was Michigan (Oh dear), No. 6 was ND, No. 7 had Ohio State's defense, No. 8 was UCF. 

Outside saying, UGA should be in because of its awesome offense that folks still kinda hate, it sometimes seems like them's just the breaks. Sometimes good enough to go to the playoff is only good enough to get slowly bled out by the end of the first half. 
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« Reply #467 on: December 30, 2018, 12:33:47 PM »
There have been many instances in both the BCS and the CFB Playoffs where the team that barely squeaks in winds up winning the whole ball of wax. 

An undefeated ND will always get an at bat in the Playoffs.
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #468 on: December 30, 2018, 01:37:41 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 30, 2018, 11:46:18 AM
A current Honda Accord will outrun most of those early 70's "muscle cars", with a few exceptions.

And be a LOT nicer to drive and handle curves.

We take for granted how fast current cars are these days.  I had a 1973 Nova with a 350 in it that the mags said would run 0-60 in 8.2 seconds.  That is the same as my old Chevy Sonic that the daughter has now.  The GTI would leave just about anything of that era in the weeds.
the 70 Nova SS with 300hp 350 matches the 2018 Accord within a tenth of a sec in 0-60 and a a tenth quicker in the 1/4 mile
the big block 396 version of the 70 Nova is quicker by 4-5 tenths in both categories
the 454 Chevelle from 1970 was a full second quicker in the 1/4 mile about the same 0-60 as the 2018 Accord - heavy chevy
yes nearly 50 years of technology make for better handling, ride, more comfortable seats
but, the style, sound, and coolness factor of the old cars make them a very easy choice as to which I would pick to drive
and the 1970 454 Chevelle had a sticker price of $5000.  Even adjusted for inflation it was a bargain compared to the 2018 Honda @ $25,000
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« Reply #469 on: December 30, 2018, 02:15:42 PM »
I'm 38, and the 70s, to my age group, seem like the worst decade, going back a ways.  The 60s had the cool cars and the 50s/60s had innocence and music and apple pie.  The 80s music far exceeds the 70s....the clothes in the 70s were absurd.  Disco?  Was brown plaid the color of the decade?  Just no redeeming qualities.  
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« Reply #470 on: December 30, 2018, 02:34:03 PM »
Odd. I'm 39 and found that my generation was quite fond of doing a poor impersonation of the 70s back in the 90s. 
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #471 on: December 30, 2018, 02:34:39 PM »
80s music?

don't think disco was the best of the 70's
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« Reply #472 on: December 30, 2018, 02:38:16 PM »
$5,000 in 1970 is the same as $32,479 today in buying power.

https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

And my point is that an Accord is a family car, nothing special really.  We could look at a Camaro SS as an example of a modern car that can run pretty well.

Folks look back on some decade and think it sounded great, maybe because of TV shows?  Each decade had some major issues.  The decade we're in could be argued to be one of the best overall.

The sixties had a lot of bad spots in them.
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #473 on: December 30, 2018, 02:40:57 PM »
I thought rock music in the 70s was pretty good, more complex than a lot of 60s rock.

https://rateyourmusic.com/list/jweber14/top_100_rock_bands_of_the_70s/

Pink Floyd, Allman Bros, Genesis, Led Zep, The Who, ...
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« Reply #474 on: December 30, 2018, 03:15:01 PM »
You forgot RUSH.
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« Reply #475 on: December 30, 2018, 03:16:20 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 30, 2018, 02:15:42 PM
I'm 38, and the 70s, to my age group, seem like the worst decade, going back a ways.  The 60s had the cool cars and the 50s/60s had innocence and music and apple pie.  The 80s music far exceeds the 70s....the clothes in the 70s were absurd.  Disco?  Was brown plaid the color of the decade?  Just no redeeming qualities.  
Don't forget the multi-patterned, multi-colored shag carpeting, green appliances and plastic covers for furniture.
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