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Topic: Black Friday Football Scheduling

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FearlessF

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Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #140 on: July 24, 2018, 10:52:12 PM »
“I’ve been outspoken that we need to have parity in the scheduling,” Moos said. “I know that at one point the traditional powerhouses were playing each other more to get that strength of schedule component really kind of directed and focused on the football playoff. But you look at the SEC, where they literally have terrible strength of schedule in most cases – only an eight-game conference schedule, etc. And still they’re putting somebody, sometimes two schools, in (the playoff) each year.”

The latter is something Frost has also been vocal about in the past, and continued to hit on this week.

He spent his final question of an hour-long session with print and TV media on Monday making the case why it’s important the SEC and ACC add another conference game each year.

“I think you have to absolutely have blinders on not to recognize the SEC and ACC are going to be over represented every year because they play eight while the Pac-12 and Big Ten beat themselves up and play extra games,” Frost said. “It’s inevitable if you play an extra conference game that half of your conference schools are going to have one more loss at the end of the year.

“It hurts your rankings. It hurts your preseason rankings for the next year because you had another loss the year before. It makes your games not count as much because you’re not playing ranked teams. Those things need to get balanced out.”

When it comes to controlling what you can control, Moos feels the athletic directors had “a very good dialogue” that had the support of the league commissioner Jim Delany in regards to future Big Ten scheduling.
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Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #141 on: July 25, 2018, 07:34:11 AM »
Moos almost makes it sound like Nebraska would like to play Rutgers every year instead of OSU.  A big change in attitude.

Of course I think what everybody is really hinting at is an equal rotation where everybody plays everybody an equal amount in cross division.  Well, except for Indy and Purdue, who need to play every year.

So I guess you start with the idea that everybody should play everybody 3 times in 7 years.  Then tweak it so that teams only play Indy/Purdue 2 times in 7 years, and so there will be at least 1 team you play 4 times in 7 years.

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Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #142 on: July 25, 2018, 09:59:01 AM »
I think an equal rotation is coming

the other part is the possibility of going back to 8 conference games if the SEC and ACC refuse to go to 9.
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Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #143 on: July 26, 2018, 01:02:59 AM »
Iowa would do at least as well to play Wisconsin on Black Friday, as Nebraska. If I were Iowa I would promote the Wisconsin series over the Nebraska series.

If I resided in Western Iowa, my view might be different as I once resided in Sioux City, and saw a white flag with a red "N" displayed on Saturdays in the fall, and it was not so disturbing since they were in a weaker conference.

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Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #144 on: July 26, 2018, 01:11:38 AM »
I think an equal rotation is coming

the other part is the possibility of going back to 8 conference games if the SEC and ACC refuse to go to 9.
We are closer to 10 conference games, than 8. My opinion is worth fairly close to about 5¢.

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Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #145 on: July 26, 2018, 08:01:21 AM »
I think an equal rotation is coming

the other part is the possibility of going back to 8 conference games if the SEC and ACC refuse to go to 9.
Have you read up on the pod system SBNation came up with? 

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Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #146 on: July 26, 2018, 04:56:25 PM »
I have read it and despise it as much as the term "pod"
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Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #147 on: July 26, 2018, 04:58:10 PM »
We are closer to 10 conference games, than 8. My opinion is worth fairly close to about 5¢.
That's ok with me and probably Frost and Moos, as long as the SEC and ACC play 10.
the rub is playing fewer conference games and thus having a better chance of putting two teams into the 4 or 8-team playoff
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Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #148 on: July 27, 2018, 11:15:54 AM »
That's ok with me and probably Frost and Moos, as long as the SEC and ACC play 10.
the rub is playing fewer conference games and thus having a better chance of putting two teams into the 4 or 8-team playoff
Lots of tricks the SEC has used to strengthen its perception.  Fewer conference games with that extra one being played against an FCS team by much of the league, results in the teams within the conference having fewer guaranteed losses.  That, combined with the timing of where the SEC typically schedules its "Cupcake Week" which is late in the season, giving the SEC teams a slam-dunk win while teams in other conferences are playing much tougher in-conference games, allows all the SEC teams to artificially move up the stack when the rankings come out.
In short, I think it's highly unlikely any conference is going to 10 conference games, while the SEC is playing only 8.  It would only exacerbate the problems.

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Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #149 on: July 27, 2018, 11:54:31 AM »
I have read it and despise it as much as the term "pod"
Now I’m curious, what’s the big flaw you see?

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Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #150 on: July 27, 2018, 12:02:15 PM »

It's kind of odd that the SEC gets so much flak for playing 8 games. It's not like they used to play nine, and then dialed it back in order to bolster their records. 

Everyone played 8 across the board. The SEC shouldn't have to start playing 9 Conference games just because a few other conferences randomly thought that it would be a good idea. 
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Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #151 on: July 27, 2018, 01:27:39 PM »
It's kind of odd that the SEC gets so much flak for playing 8 games. It's not like they used to play nine, and then dialed it back in order to bolster their records.

Everyone played 8 across the board. The SEC shouldn't have to start playing 9 Conference games just because a few other conferences randomly thought that it would be a good idea.

Oh I don't disagree with that at all.
I'm just pointing out how it has worked to their advantage, and why no conference administrator in his right mind would choose to 10 at this point, and why there's a solid argument against even playing 9.
It's not much different than the argument back in the 90s and early 2000s, when the SEC and B12 had a CCG, and people in those conferences complained that the B10 and PAC didn't have CCGs but should.  They claimed it should be an "even playing field."  I just shook my head at those folks

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Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #152 on: July 27, 2018, 01:39:09 PM »
I'd speculate that if the Pac 12 went to ten Conference games, it would most likely be because of geography, as there is only one other FBS conference out there for them to schedule games against.  

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Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #153 on: July 29, 2018, 12:20:41 AM »
If everybody would just take off their blinders and realize not all decisions are totally about the CFP, they may start to think differently.  10 conference games makes a lot of sense if your priority is to play other teams in your conference as much as possible.   It also makes a lot of sense if your goal is to crown the most legitimate conference champ you can.

  It's just strange that fans of teams that routinely finish nowhere near the top 4 nationally are arguing for 8 conference games.  

 

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