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Topic: Big Ten Bowl Tie-in Change for 2020

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847badgerfan

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Re: Big Ten Bowl Tie-in Change for 2020
« Reply #42 on: March 13, 2019, 11:21:17 AM »
The Rose was played at Duke during WWII. They were concerned about a Japanese attack. Why they chose Duke is beyond me.
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Re: Big Ten Bowl Tie-in Change for 2020
« Reply #43 on: March 13, 2019, 11:33:17 AM »
maybe because Duke was 9-0 in 1942 and a worthy opponent?
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Re: Big Ten Bowl Tie-in Change for 2020
« Reply #44 on: March 13, 2019, 11:34:34 AM »
I didn't realize Duke played in it. Just knew that's where it was played. I stand more learned up now.
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Re: Big Ten Bowl Tie-in Change for 2020
« Reply #45 on: March 13, 2019, 11:37:16 AM »
I learn something every day.  And I'm old!

learned that roses have hips this morning from a lady at the office that drinks tea
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Re: Big Ten Bowl Tie-in Change for 2020
« Reply #46 on: March 13, 2019, 01:01:01 PM »
Pacific Coast Champion Oregon State was responsible for selecting and inviting the opposing team. Number one ranked Minnesota was the first choice, but the Western Conference, forerunner of the Big Ten Conference, did not permit their teams to play in bowl games until the 1946 agreement between the Big Ten and Pacific Coast Conference. Duke would have been a logical second choice, but Coach Wallace Wade had rubbed a lot of Californians the wrong way due to his antics following his 7-3 loss in the 1939 Rose Bowl. The Southern California media championed Missouri or Fordham.[6] Oregon State responded by inviting Fordham, who they had beaten in their 1933 Ironmen year. Unknown to Oregon State, both Fordham and Missouri had received take it or leave it offers from the Sugar Bowl before their invite to the Rose Bowl, and each had accepted the offer. Unable to invite their three first choices, the Beavers settled on number two ranked and undefeated Duke Blue Devils, much to the chagrin of Southern California. The selection was announced on December 1, 1941.[7][8] Duke's defense had not allowed more than 14 points all year. The Blue Devils were averaging a 30-point victory every time they took the field. In each game, the Blue Devils won by at least 13 points. The Blue Devils were on an 11-game winning streak, having gone 24-4, and .857 winning percentage, since their 1939 Rose Bowl defeat.
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Re: Big Ten Bowl Tie-in Change for 2020
« Reply #47 on: March 13, 2019, 02:00:52 PM »
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Re: Big Ten Bowl Tie-in Change for 2020
« Reply #48 on: March 14, 2019, 08:17:56 AM »
Things were a bit different back in 1942.  Of course, after the 1942 season, in 1943, Georgia played in its first Rose Bowl, which was a large deal at the time.  A few years back they had a pretty good team and USC had a pretty good team, and UGA played and waxed Hawaii while USC played and waxed Illinois.  Missed op if you ask me.

Hawaii started the game on offense with two false starts.  The noise level was well beyond anything they'd ever experienced.

So, is football better today than back then?  Certainly the athletes are.  I'd GUESS a Div 3 team today could beat most top teams back then.
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Re: Big Ten Bowl Tie-in Change for 2020
« Reply #49 on: March 14, 2019, 09:11:58 AM »
What bowl does this one diminish if it rises in status?
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Re: Big Ten Bowl Tie-in Change for 2020
« Reply #50 on: March 14, 2019, 09:26:36 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 14, 2019, 08:17:56 AM
So, is football better today than back then?  Certainly the athletes are.  I'd GUESS a Div 3 team today could beat most top teams back then.
It wouldn't even be close.  A modern D3 team would be both bigger and faster at every position.  A highly disciplined old-time team playing mistake-free ball might be able to keep it close for a while but the massive physical advantage of a modern team (even D3) would wear down a team from a prior era.  
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Re: Big Ten Bowl Tie-in Change for 2020
« Reply #51 on: March 14, 2019, 10:05:01 AM »
Could a good HS team beat a Div 1 team from 1942?

Probably some of them, yes, I don't know about the top level teams.
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