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bayareabadger

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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #56 on: December 16, 2022, 01:51:12 PM »
I’m glad this bus broke down on one poster’s favorite hill to die on. 
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #57 on: December 16, 2022, 02:08:47 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on December 16, 2022, 01:51:12 PM
I’m glad this bus broke down on one poster’s favorite hill to die on.
Well, it's possible it is all the rest of us that are the problem here, I'm not exactly sure what the problem is, but whatever.
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #58 on: December 16, 2022, 02:21:29 PM »
We're all idiots that post on a college football message board.  So we got that going for us.  Which is nice.
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #59 on: December 16, 2022, 02:51:16 PM »
to various degrees of idiocrasy
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #60 on: December 16, 2022, 08:48:10 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 16, 2022, 01:00:39 PM
Plenty of us discuss an issue and disagree amicably and sensibly.  It happens all the time in NEARLY every thread.  When it doesn't, there often is one specific commonality.
I guess I'm rare in that I bother to provide support for many of my disagreements and the other poster is too apathetic to provide evidence to the contrary, only takes a pot shot at me and moves on.  

I guess there's that.  
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Yes, I tend to suggest that I'm right and tell why.  Mostly what I get back is no, I'm wrong, neener neener jerk face.  
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #61 on: December 16, 2022, 08:51:01 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on December 16, 2022, 02:21:29 PM
We're all idiots that post on a college football message board.  So we got that going for us.  Which is nice.
I wish everyone realized this and stopped treating it like an echo chamber of apathy.
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #62 on: December 16, 2022, 08:53:30 PM »
And I'd like nothing more than for this convo to get back on-topic.  :96:
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #63 on: December 16, 2022, 08:56:56 PM »
two of the 4 selections seem to be leading comfortably

I'd like to know if "others" was a single team or two or 3?

I suspect homer buckeyes with 3 votes
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #64 on: December 16, 2022, 09:12:13 PM »
I don't think the '14 OSU picks are that homerish.  There's an argument for them, it all depends on your mindset.
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For me, the "who was better?" thing is a full-season, average outcome thing.  I'm probably in the minority on that.  For most, I'd guess they probably figure it's a full-season, peak outcome thing.  What has the team done at its best? 
(I just deem it mostly likely a team will play at its average performance most of the time.  If a team's average effort is close to their peak, good on them.  But that seems rare.)
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The '14 OSU crowd is probably just an "end of season" thing - who would win in a NC game at the end of their season?  And if that's your criteria, then that Buckeyes team makes sense. 
I was fully still expecting for Bama to come back and win until that long run by Elliott late in the game.  And that Oregon team was truly great, but couldn't compete with the Buckeyes.
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #65 on: December 19, 2022, 11:45:10 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on December 15, 2022, 03:14:19 PM
Joe Burrow, JaMarr Chase, and Justin Jefferson as a trio not only flat out dominated college football at a level we hadn't seen before- they then went straight to the NFL and basically were the very best at their positions almost immediately. That just points to how scary good they truly are and how much better they are than everyone else they would be facing in this theoretical game.

I'd just like to make a quick plug for my guys Terrace Marshall, Thad Moss and Clyde Edwards-Helaire.  Marshall missed 3 games d/t injury and was limited in several of the others but still managed 671 yds and 13 TDs as a third option behind two of the best to ever do it.  Moss was a really good TE option, as was Edwards-Helaire out of the backfield.  He wasn't the greatest runner we ever had, but he was good, and his vision was outstanding which made him better than his physical gifts would suggest.  And it sounds cheesy, but he had no-quit attitude that somehow let his tiny little body drive piles of defenders much bigger than himself.  

It really was quite an offense.  

All that said, I think if we're measuring a team's season against the other teams' seasons, LSU is going to take a hit for having an average defense for 75% of the year.  If we're talking about Playoff LSU vs. Playoff Clemson/Bama/whoever.....I'm taking LSU, but it's likely impossible to root out my own bias.  
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #66 on: December 19, 2022, 12:47:35 PM »
Quote from: MikeDeTiger on December 19, 2022, 11:45:10 AM
All that said, I think if we're measuring a team's season against the other teams' seasons, LSU is going to take a hit for having an average defense for 75% of the year.  If we're talking about Playoff LSU vs. Playoff Clemson/Bama/whoever.....I'm taking LSU, but it's likely impossible to root out my own bias. 
i think that's a fair assessment. even in 2019 alone, i'd wager early season bama would have beat early lsu fairly comfortably. mid/late-season was a back and forth game with lsu winning a close one. a playoff game, had bama made it, i feel confident lsu wins fairly solidly. lsu was just a different animal late in season and playoffs.

lsu's peak was probably the highest. their o was legit one of the best ever, and d really became a good unit late on. over course of a season, though, well, it took them a while to get to that peak. while others, like 2020 bama, play nearer their peak the whole time.
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #67 on: December 20, 2022, 05:30:23 AM »
I guess I figure these fantasy match-ups are taking place on a random Tuesday in October vs "okay, you just won the NC, now go play the '95 Huskers" type of thing.  
I wonder what dictates that idea in us.
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #68 on: December 20, 2022, 06:16:50 AM »
Quote from: rolltidefan on December 19, 2022, 12:47:35 PM
i think that's a fair assessment. even in 2019 alone, i'd wager early season bama would have beat early lsu fairly comfortably. mid/late-season was a back and forth game with lsu winning a close one. a playoff game, had bama made it, i feel confident lsu wins fairly solidly. lsu was just a different animal late in season and playoffs.

lsu's peak was probably the highest. their o was legit one of the best ever, and d really became a good unit late on. over course of a season, though, well, it took them a while to get to that peak. while others, like 2020 bama, play nearer their peak the whole time.
Idk.  Maybe.  I distinctly remember watching the LSU-Texas game and texting a friend this might be the year LSU got Bama.  I had just never seen LSU with that type of passing attack before.  It wasn’t the I formation, toss sweep  left and right I had seen under Miles that was good enough to beat a lot of teams, but not Bama.

Then at some point later in the season (maybe after the UF win) I simply texted him “LSU>Bama.”  
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #69 on: December 20, 2022, 06:50:47 AM »
Who's been the worst team from the CFP era? UMass? 
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