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OrangeAfroMan

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Best #15
« on: June 19, 2018, 07:17:37 PM »
View results after voting.
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Re: Best #15
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2018, 09:43:18 AM »
must be a Big Ten Board...
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Re: Best #15
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2018, 09:54:56 AM »
I went with Timmy.
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Re: Best #15
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2018, 10:56:00 AM »
I was a homer..
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Re: Best #15
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2018, 12:07:04 PM »
The first college football player I loved was Desmond.  The next was Tommie.
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Re: Best #15
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2018, 03:13:28 PM »
Quote from: TyphonInc on June 20, 2018, 09:43:18 AM
must be a Big Ten Board...
I'm sure everyone is being objective and could support their choice if pressed.  :57:
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Re: Best #15
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2018, 04:34:56 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 20, 2018, 03:13:28 PM
I'm sure everyone is being objective and could support their choice if pressed.  :57:
I'm not being objective, as I'm obviously a Purdue homer... But I can still defend the choice. 
Tebow and Frazier had great supporting casts around them. Great offensive lines, great running backs, great defenses, great receivers, etc. Brees had none of that, and he still terrorized opposing teams like no other. He made the entire team around him better. 
Now, I will grant that he had a pretty great OL in front of him. But his receiving talent was marginal, the RB talent was marginal, he was forced to win games coming from behind because the defense put him there. 

You put Tim Tebow or Tommy Frazier on those Purdue teams, I don't know if they can perform like he did without all that supporting talent around them. We know Brees was capable, because he did it.
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Re: Best #15
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2018, 04:51:10 PM »
agreed

Brees production was enhanced by a poor defense and coming from behind

Tommie often sat out the 4th quarter or more - Tommie's receiver talent was not good, but they could block.  Tommie had RB talent in spdes and they took away from his touches and numbers

Dropping Tommie in the Brees offense would have been about as bad as dropping Brees in Tommie's offense - not easy to compare

both great college QBs and both better than Timmy - hah

that was for OrangeAfro
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Re: Best #15
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2018, 06:06:59 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on June 20, 2018, 04:51:10 PM
both great college QBs and both better than Timmy - hah
Don't sell Timmy short!
Best fullback to ever wear #15, IMHO.
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Re: Best #15
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2018, 09:12:00 PM »
How many fullbacks had the 4th-highest career passing efficiency of all-time?  

Tommie fails in Drew's offense. 
Drew fails in Tommie's offense.

Which QB could excel in both?  :67:
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Re: Best #15
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2018, 09:13:24 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on June 20, 2018, 04:34:56 PM
I'm not being objective, as I'm obviously a Purdue homer... But I can still defend the choice.
Tebow and Frazier had great supporting casts around them. 
I get your point - it's similar to the Elway point on the other thread.  But by that thinking, the Heisman winner should never come from an elite team....which is the exact opposite of who actually wins the thing.  
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Re: Best #15
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2018, 09:35:09 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 20, 2018, 09:12:00 PM
How many fullbacks had the 4th-highest career passing efficiency of all-time?  

Tommie fails in Drew's offense.
Drew fails in Tommie's offense.

Which QB could excel in both?  :67:
Chris Leak?
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Re: Best #15
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2018, 09:53:20 PM »
Mike Vick?

Randall Cunningham?

Steve Young?
« Last Edit: June 20, 2018, 09:58:27 PM by FearlessF »
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Re: Best #15
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2018, 10:13:57 PM »
Which of the above 3 choices......???
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