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Topic: BBT's Penn State Preview

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Re: BBT's Penn State Preview
« Reply #112 on: September 03, 2019, 12:39:49 PM »
Unless the angle was very low over midget opposition, I think it's safe to call a 50+ yard FG "opponent invariant."

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Re: BBT's Penn State Preview
« Reply #113 on: September 03, 2019, 02:31:08 PM »
Unless the angle was very low over midget opposition, I think it's safe to call a 50+ yard FG "opponent invariant."
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Re: BBT's Penn State Preview
« Reply #114 on: September 03, 2019, 02:56:38 PM »
Feels like sarcasm, but I am expecting you agree with me that a 50+ yard FG is always special. This hasn't been a yes-sir thread. Maybe agreement just looks weird.

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Re: BBT's Penn State Preview
« Reply #115 on: September 03, 2019, 05:22:08 PM »
Feels like sarcasm, but I am expecting you agree with me that a 50+ yard FG is always special. This hasn't been a yes-sir thread. Maybe agreement just looks weird.
Just saying that I technically should have put a caveat on my Stout topics, but I didn't.  He's a difference maker and will certainly improve the changes for Penn State to have a good season!

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Re: BBT's Penn State Preview
« Reply #116 on: September 03, 2019, 07:39:40 PM »
Good article below on Pat Narduzzi at Pitt who Penn St plays in two more weekends.

Pitt is a program I’ve never been able to understand. Walt Harris leads them to the BCS - fire him. Wannstedt reels in 10 win seasons and top 25 recruiting - get rid of him. Narduzzi is mediocre compared to both of them (28-25 record) and just weaseled a contract extension through 2024.


https://triblive.com/sports/tim-benz-pitt-is-stuck-in-the-middle-with-pat-narduzzi/
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Re: BBT's Penn State Preview
« Reply #117 on: September 03, 2019, 07:47:13 PM »
Pitt's a tough sell not really an ideal collegiate venue
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Re: BBT's Penn State Preview
« Reply #118 on: September 03, 2019, 07:53:29 PM »
Pitt has always seemed like a good example of a failed helmet. Take a program that's any amount smaller than "too big to fail" (a good definition for a helmet program), mix it with helmet-level ego, and you get a weird collage of success/mediocrity/failure mixed with weirdly elevated expectations.

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Re: BBT's Penn State Preview
« Reply #119 on: September 03, 2019, 08:02:48 PM »
Pitt's a tough sell not really an ideal collegiate venue
Is the campus itself the problem?

I've read glowing descriptions of the modern, revived city of Pittsburgh.
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Re: BBT's Penn State Preview
« Reply #120 on: September 03, 2019, 08:11:45 PM »
Haven't been to Pittsburgh in at least 15 years but the campus is urban and they play in the Steelers Stadium.ELA could prolly tell you more,but they don't get great crowds.Like the "U" I'm guessen'.Tough for a City to support a pro and college programs.Hell just look at LA.
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Re: BBT's Penn State Preview
« Reply #121 on: September 03, 2019, 08:35:10 PM »
Pitt has always had a way of shooting themselves in the foot.  They did win their division last season, despite going 7-7.  I know many Pitt fans were hoping that this year they would see some improvement, but that UVA game was ugly.

They had a mediocre year in 2016, but beat the national champs and the Big Ten champs.

They stopped Penn State's hope of a Big East football conference, and a few years later barely managed to end up in the ACC somehow.

Pitt was ranked #1 once, I believe Marino was their QB.  Their final game was against Penn State.  They jumped out to a 14-0 lead, but ended up losing 48-14.  This was their only hope at truly becoming a helmet school.  They have not sniffed that kind of greatness since.  Here's a great highlight if you have 9 minutes.
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Re: BBT's Penn State Preview
« Reply #122 on: September 03, 2019, 09:46:02 PM »
 Wannstedt reels in 10 win seasons and top 25 recruiting - get rid of him. Narduzzi is mediocre compared to both of them (28-25 record) and just weaseled a contract extension through 2024.


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Re: BBT's Penn State Preview
« Reply #123 on: September 03, 2019, 09:48:10 PM »
Wow.  Epic collapse.
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Re: BBT's Penn State Preview
« Reply #124 on: September 05, 2019, 11:23:40 AM »
Wannstedt 42-31 in 6 seasons

Wannstedt was 26-12 in his last three seasons. Pitt was establishing higher footing than their usual 7-6 equilibrium. Not to mention yielding top 25 rankings in both the polls and recruiting. And Wannstedt, a local boy, was a good face for Pitt who’d somewhat cut into Ohio State and Penn State taking their first pick of Western Pennsylvania’s high school talent.

The AD couldn’t see it that way at the time, instead opting for risky hires that didn’t amount to anything. I guess it’s like what Anonymous Coward pointed out - Pitt’s internally reinforced mediocrity is what happens when a non-helmet acts like a helmet.

FWIW I think Pitt did well in hiring Chryst and Narduzzi in the sense those are safe and responsible hires, but Narduzzi’s contract extension is almost as senseless as what Auburn gave to Gus.

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Re: BBT's Penn State Preview
« Reply #125 on: January 02, 2020, 10:36:14 AM »
Just pulling this up to compare our preseason musings to what actually happened on the field.

The only position I feel I missed on was the secondary.  The safety play was good against the run, but really struggled against the pass.  And when I say struggled, I mean they were terrible.  For example, the cotton bowl had a big play from Memphis in which it appeared CB John Reid was out of position.  In reality, the safety was out of position.

The wide receivers (with the exception of KJ Hamler) also didn't meet my expectations.

Outside of Micah Parsons, Penn State's linebackers were just OK. 

Other than that, I think my preview was fairly accurate.

Amusing the see the banter earlier in this thread.  :)

 

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