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medinabuckeye1

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B1G Power Rankings, week 7
« on: October 15, 2022, 09:51:57 PM »
Link to prior rankings.

Votes through @ELA :

Drop the high and low:

Schedule/performance table:



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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 7
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2022, 12:07:17 AM »

  • Ohio State
  • Michigan
  • Illinois
  • Penn State
  • Purdue
  • Maryland
  • Minnesota
  • Iowa
  • Wisconsin
  • Indiana
  • Michigan State
  • Nebraska
  • Rutgers
  • Northwestern

I was a bit tempted to move Michigan up a notch. The Wolverines have an opportunity to prove themselves as the season progresses. Their victory today was impressive. 
I wonder if Coach Franklin will be looking elsewhere, or if Penn State will look elsewhere before Franklin starts looking.

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 7
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2022, 05:35:59 AM »
1. Ohio State
2. Michigan
3. Illinois
4. Penn State
5. Purdue
6. Maryland
7. Iowa
8. Wisconsin
9.  Minnesota
10. Indiana
11.  Nebraska
12. Michigan State
13. Rutgers
14. Northwestern
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 7
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2022, 08:14:23 AM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on October 16, 2022, 12:07:17 AM
I wonder if Coach Franklin will be looking elsewhere, or if Penn State will look elsewhere before Franklin starts looking.
I'm guessing the latter,that wasn't a resume' builder for the former
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 7
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2022, 08:34:17 AM »
1) Putting the Target on Michigan's Back
2)Hopefully Buckeyes can slide into Nov 26 unbeaten
3)Illini - Bert- the Beat Goes On,heading into the bye week bye week
4)PSU - I guess
5)Purdue interchangable with the Terps,got a 4 game winning streak
6)Terps
7)Gophs
8)Iowa
9)MSU
10)UW
11)Hoosiers
12)Rutgers
13)UNL
14)NU
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 7
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2022, 08:55:00 AM »
Remember a couple weeks ago after PSU and Minn had 2 big blowout wins and we were wondering if they were actually good or was it really just all a mirage?  I guess we have our answer.  Anyway, I think I have seen enough to finally shake things up.

1.  Mich - We have been seeing signs for weeks now that Mich has a special team.  Blake Corum is outstanding.

2.  OSU -  the dismantling of Wisc does not look as impressive now.

3.  ILL - may not deserve to be this high,  but ILL is one team that can at least play defense.  Impressive wins over Wisc and Minn,  but a close loss to IND and a near give-away to Iowa shows they can be vulnerable.

4.  PSU -  it was tempting to drop them further.  The Mich loss was not even close.  But PSU still has the early victory over Purdue.

5.  Purdue-  the most exciting team in football.  Every game is high scoring and comes down to the wire.  Well, Purdue figured out a way to run out the clock when it has a lead.  By going for it on 4th amd short and later completing long passes on 3rd and long.  But I am afraid Purdue's pass defense is just not good enough to win every game.

6.  MD - only losses are close losses to Mich and Purdue.  It's tempting to rank them higher than PSU but at least PSU beat Purdue.

7.  Minn -  maybe this is not Minn's year afterall.  Once potent offense has not been showing up in October.

8.  Iowa -  #8 always seems about right for Iowa.  A defense good enough to maybe win every game.  An offense that could lose every game.

9.  Neb -  bumping them up even though they lost.  If they have nothing else,  Neb has one awesome WR that can exploit bad pass defenses.

10. IND - the mystery grows how Ind ever beat ILL.  But I think I have seen enough to think they are better than MSU and Wisc

11. MSU -  showing signs of life after a disappointing start

12.  Wisc -  their turnaround looks like a short  one

13.  Rut -  They are probably not this bad but I will wait till they actually beat someone to move them up.

14. NW -  It may be time to give up on the usual NW miracle turnaround.  This team is just bad.
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 7
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2022, 09:28:26 AM »
Quote from: LittlePig on October 16, 2022, 08:55:00 AM
Remember a couple weeks ago after PSU and Minn had 2 big blowout wins and we were wondering if they were actually good or was it really just all a mirage?  I guess we have our answer.  Anyway, I think I have seen enough to finally shake things up.

1.  Mich - We have been seeing signs for weeks now that Mich has a special team.  Blake Corum is outstanding.

2.  OSU -  the dismantling of Wisc does not look as impressive now.

3.  ILL - may not deserve to be this high,  but ILL is one team that can at least play defense.  Impressive wins over Wisc and Minn,  but a close loss to IND and a near give-away to Iowa shows they can be vulnerable.

4.  PSU -  it was tempting to drop them further.  The Mich loss was not even close.  But PSU still has the early victory over Purdue.

5.  Purdue-  the most exciting team in football.  Every game is high scoring and comes down to the wire.  Well, Purdue figured out a way to run out the clock when it has a lead.  By going for it on 4th amd short and later completing long passes on 3rd and long.  But I am afraid Purdue's pass defense is just not good enough to win every game.

6.  MD - only losses are close losses to Mich and Purdue.  It's tempting to rank them higher than PSU but at least PSU beat Purdue.

7.  Minn -  maybe this is not Minn's year afterall.  Once potent offense has not been showing up in October.

8.  Iowa -  #8 always seems about right for Iowa.  A defense good enough to maybe win every game.  An offense that could lose every game.

9.  Neb -  bumping them up even though they lost.  If they have nothing else,  Neb has one awesome WR that can exploit bad pass defenses.

10. IND - the mystery grows how Ind ever beat ILL.  But I think I have seen enough to think they are better than MSU and Wisc

11. MSU -  showing signs of life after a disappointing start

12.  Wisc -  their turnaround looks like a short  one

13.  Rut -  They are probably not this bad but I will wait till they actually beat someone to move them up.

14.  It may be time to give up on the usual NW miracle turnaround.  This team is just bad.
flip OSU to #1 & Mich to #2 and that’s pretty much my list. 
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 7
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2022, 10:13:19 AM »
1) Michigan - OL/DL are nasty
2) Ohio State - Bye
3) Penn State - I don't want to overreact to what was a bad matchup for them.
4) Illinois - Offense isn't great, but does enough.
5) Purdue - They seem to play to the strength of their opponent
6) Maryland - Wasn't pretty, but got the W.  Now we see how long Taulia is out.
7) Iowa - Bye
8) Minnesota - Defense worse than Iowa's and offense looking pretty miserable.
9) Michigan State - Showed some life
10) Wisconsin - Back to earth
11) Nebraska - Gave Purdue a good fight
12) Indiana - Pesky
13) Rutgers - Bye
14) Northwestern - Bye 
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 7
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2022, 07:59:40 AM »

  • Ohio State
  • Michigan
  • Penn State
  • Illinois
  • Purdue
  • Maryland
  • Iowa
  • Minnesota
  • Wisconsin
  • Nebraska
  • Michigan State
  • Rutgers
  • Indiana
  • Northwestern

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 7
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2022, 08:14:31 AM »
1. Michigan
2. Ohio State






(Just like the good old days. Big 2/Little 8 in bold.)






3. Penn State
4. Illinois
5. Purdue
6. Maryland
7. Minnesota
8. Iowa
9. Nebraska
10. Michigan State
11. Wisconsin
12. Rutgers
13. Indiana
14. Northwestern
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 7
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2022, 09:02:03 AM »
I will not be voting this week as I did not get to watch any games due to traveling. 
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 7
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2022, 09:14:03 AM »
So what that resume may land you at ESPiN, chime in any way 
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 7
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2022, 04:04:03 PM »
My prior rankings are in parentheses in chronological order from most recent at L to preseason at R:

  • Ohio State (1,1,1,2,1,1,1), Off this week but their wins over ND and UW both took further hits and their closest challenger looked REALLY good. 
  • Michigan (2,2,3,3,2,2,2), There is obviously a strong argument to move the Wolverines to #1.  They did look REALLY good against the Nittany Lions.  I am going to hold off until I see how Ohio State does against Iowa relative to the fact that Michigan already beat Iowa by 13 on the road.    
  • Penn State (3,3,2,1,3,4,4), Probably still the third best team in the league but it sucks for them that while they'd be the favorite to win the B1G-W they could be almost mathematically eliminated in the B1G-E in October if they lose their next two.  
  • Illinois (4,7,11,10,10,13,9), That loss in Bloomington looks stranger by the week.  
  • Purdue (6,6,9,7,7,7,7), Looking good but can they finally overcome the Badgers?  
  • Minnesota (5,4,4,4,5,6,8), The Gophers managed to go from odds-on favorite to win the B1G-W to also-ran in two weeks.  
  • Iowa (8,8,7,11,11,8,6), I still don't know what to think of Iowa.  Their defense is so good that they kept it close with Michigan and are a credible threat to upset anyone including tOSU in Columbus this weekend.  Conversely, their offense is so bad that anyone is a credible threat to beat them and they could lose at home to Northwestern the week after playing in Columbus.
  • Maryland (7,5,5,8,8,9,12), I dropped the Terps a spot because they shouldn't have been in such a close game with the Hoosiers.  
  • Nebraska (10,12,13,14,14,14,14), I moved the Cornhuskers up a spot because they were at least competitive with Purdue and because Wisconsin did not look good.  
  • Wisconsin (9,9,6,5,6,3,3), Just when I thought maybe they had the ship righted in Madison.  Still, I'm leaving them ahead of MSU because it was an OT win by the home team and because I still think that the rest of UW's resume is better than the rest of MSU's.    
  • Michigan State (11,10,8,6,4,5,5), Turn-around, train-wreck opponent, or just random fluke?  
  • Indiana (13,13,12,12,12,12,10), This low in the rankings close losses are generally a good thing.  We'll see how they do this week against . . .
  • Rutgers (12,11,10,9,9,10,13), They have a potentially winnable home game this week!  
  • Northwestern (14,14,14,13,13,11,11), Honestly, 14th simply isn't low enough of a ranking for this team.   

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 7
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2022, 04:21:21 PM »
I think it is legitimately a really close call between tOSU and Michigan for the top spot.  Here are their results sorted by Sagrin ranking for their opponents:


Michigan's big win over Penn State stands out as easily the most impressive result by either team but their 13 and 7 point wins over Iowa and Maryland stand out the other way.  Ohio State seems to be a bit more consistent with nothing really jumping off the page in a good or a bad way relative to Michigan.  

As an Ohio State fan, Michigan looks scary to me.  I don't mean scary just to lesser teams, I mean scary to the Buckeyes as well.  When they are good, the Wolverines are REALLY good.  Here are Indiana's second half possessions against the Wolverine defense:

  • 7 plays, 26 yards, punt
  • 3 plays, 7 yards, punt
  • 6 plays, 23 yards, punt
  • 3 plays, -9 yards, punt
  • 3 plays, -11 yards, fumble
  • 6 plays, 8 yards, downs
That would be impressive against an FCS opponent, it is REALLY good.  

Here are Penn State's four possessions after they kicked a FG to take a second-half lead:
  • 9 plays, 36 yards, downs (while down 24-17)
  • 5 plays, 16 yards, punt (while down 31-17)
  • 6 plays, 22 yards, downs (while down 34-17)
  • 9 plays, 42 yards, downs (while down 41-17)
While their defense was doing that to the PSU offense, the Michigan offense scored on four straight drives (3 TD's, 1 FG) to turn a 17-16 PSU lead into a 41-17 Michigan blowout.  

Like I said, when they are good they are REALLY good.  That said, they also have a trend of letting inferior teams hang around.  Indiana was tied at the half and within one score until midway through the final quarter.  Penn State, despite getting statistically obliterated, was only down two at halftime and very briefly held a second half lead.  Maryland was within four at the half and within one score for all but a few minutes.  If they keep playing questionable first halves it is likely that one of the teams they should beat will knock them off and/or that Ohio State will build up such a massive lead that the Wolverines will be unable to catch up.  
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