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Topic: An Ode to 1997 SOC September 22

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847badgerfan

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Re: An Ode to 1997 SOC September 22
« Reply #266 on: September 23, 2018, 09:23:30 AM »
Nope. My buddy built a pretty awesome bar on the back of his house and I took full advantage.  But then my wife brought our dogs over, they ran off and got sprayed by a skunk.
No dogs... just no.
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Re: An Ode to 1997 SOC September 22
« Reply #267 on: September 23, 2018, 09:31:26 AM »
Nope. My buddy built a pretty awesome bar on the back of his house and I took full advantage.  But then my wife brought our dogs over, they ran off and got sprayed by a skunk.
HA!Scrubbing down sprayed dogs whilst half in the bag,cursing and swearing,cursing and swearing.For future reference mix a tables spoon of dawn,a qt of Hydrogen Peroxide,and like a cup or two of baking soda,have to look it up - this actually works.Had to use it on my cat a while back a few times
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Re: An Ode to 1997 SOC September 22
« Reply #268 on: September 23, 2018, 09:37:48 AM »
No dogs... just no.
I liken it to this: Would you welcome a drooling, unwashed  hairy naked man who doesn't wipe his ass into your home, to sit on your couch?
Haven't had a dog in over 25 yrs-but I'd love too.When I was single I wasn't around enough for a dog - who are sociable creatures.Got suckered into a kitten that lived for 17 yrs mostly outside and over at a neighbors who always had 2-3 cats.They were clean freaks and you'd never know it.Cindy had two small parrots(which are neat in there own right) when she was taking care of her dying mother and brought them with her when she moved back - so no dogs
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Re: An Ode to 1997 SOC September 22
« Reply #269 on: September 23, 2018, 09:51:42 AM »
No dogs... just no.
I liken it to this: Would you welcome a drooling, unwashed  hairy naked man who doesn't wipe his ass into your home, to sit on your couch?
Is that your way of inviting me over??
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Re: An Ode to 1997 SOC September 22
« Reply #270 on: September 23, 2018, 09:53:34 AM »
Is that your way of inviting me over??
I would have never pictured you as a drooling, unwashed orange-haired naked man who doesn't wipe his ass!
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Re: An Ode to 1997 SOC September 22
« Reply #271 on: September 23, 2018, 10:04:12 AM »
I would have never pictured you as a drooling, unwashed orange-haired naked man who doesn't wipe his ass!
You're just being nice on Sunday - well stop it!
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Re: An Ode to 1997 SOC September 22
« Reply #272 on: September 23, 2018, 10:57:20 AM »
The agents in skunk "oil" comprise mercaptans, symbol generally as R-S-H (R indicates some kind of carbon linkage) and S of course is sulfur.

Those types are susceptible to oxidation, hence use of hydrogen peroxide, which is not hydrophobic but the mercaptans are, so the Dawn breaks that down so the H2O2 can get to the mercaptan.  

The other treatment is tomato juice which contains a lot of unsaturated compounds like beta-carotene.  These combine with the R-S-H readily to form sulfides which are less smelly, often not smelly if high enough MW.

The other treatment would be mercury, elemental, but I don't advise that one.  

Sorry, I digress when it comes to organosulfur chemistry.

Di-n-butyl sulfide doesn't smell very good but is often used in perfumes to provide "character".

Some may recall use of DMSO to treat arthritis back in the day.  I think this has been largely stamped out, for probably good reasons.  It is one compound that goes through the skin readily.  If you get some on you, you immediately taste something not very nice in your mouth as the body makes dimethyl sulfide out of it.  That is a gas and it doesn't smell good at all.

The worst thing I ever smelled was butane dithiol (thiols are another name for mercaptans).  I got a whiff one time and vomited on the lab floor immediately.  Just a whiff.  It would be good for crowd control I think.  I think it is "safe".  But man is it bad to smell.

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Re: An Ode to 1997 SOC September 22
« Reply #273 on: September 23, 2018, 11:00:55 AM »
No dogs... just no.
I liken it to this: Would you welcome a drooling, unwashed  hairy naked man who doesn't wipe his ass into your home, to sit on your couch?
I'm with you.  I wanted no dogs and my wife wanted one dog so we have two dogs.

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Re: An Ode to 1997 SOC September 22
« Reply #274 on: September 23, 2018, 11:11:14 AM »
We have an amazing number of dog owners around us.  The park is full of them walking said animals, often 2 or 3.  

They are pretty good about picking up after them.  I love dogs.  The wife loves dogs.

We don't have any ourselves.

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Re: An Ode to 1997 SOC September 22
« Reply #275 on: September 23, 2018, 11:14:35 AM »
We travel too much to have anything in the house, not to mention I'm allergic to anything that sheds... So, no. Even if... NO!
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Re: An Ode to 1997 SOC September 22
« Reply #276 on: September 23, 2018, 11:36:01 AM »
The agents in skunk "oil" comprise mercaptans, symbol generally as R-S-H (R indicates some kind of carbon linkage) and S of course is sulfur.

Those types are susceptible to oxidation, hence use of hydrogen peroxide, which is not hydrophobic but the mercaptans are, so the Dawn breaks that down so the H2O2 can get to the mercaptan.  

The other treatment is tomato juice which contains a lot of unsaturated compounds like beta-carotene.  These combine with the R-S-H readily to form sulfides which are less smelly, often not smelly if high enough MW.
I had read about the Dawn/Peroxide/Baking Soda article I think in Consumer Reports evidently some medical types came up with working in Mortuaries where sometimes the bodies had already been decomposing.CR did experiments using the skunk spray and the mixture and it worked.They also tried tomato juice and said it didn't.They had people who were not exposed to the strong spray smell the articles of cloth that were exposed.People seem to think the tomato juice works but they said no.After you are exposed to the skunk spray smell for a few minutes it kind of deadens your ability to smell it after 5-10 minutes.
 I know the other peroxide concoction works because I tried it immediately when I got sprayed late one warm summers evening.My garage sits behind my house and around 11 one evening I went out to close the garage door because the opener was broke.Unaware the skunk was right under my car - I thought it was my cat.Well two well placed shots later - right into each knee cap and I quickly grabbed the hose and rinsed off.Then lathered up with that solution and walla - it worked.The next morning or that evening you couldn't smell a thing.I'm sure immediately rinsing helped immensely.But not long after my cat got it prolly by the same culprit and I washed him using the solution and I highly recommend it.The solution - not washing cats
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Re: An Ode to 1997 SOC September 22
« Reply #277 on: September 23, 2018, 11:48:24 AM »
Never had a dog growing up and never wanted one.

Had kids and they and my wife bugged me for about two years about getting a dog. I finally caved in the fall of 2016.

I’d give her away and not blink if I could. I’m with Badge. I never saw the appeal of dogs.  Of course, some people feel that way about having kids. Different strokes and all that.

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Re: An Ode to 1997 SOC September 22
« Reply #278 on: September 23, 2018, 11:50:39 AM »
In my opinion, in general, Consumer Reports is a hack magazine.  I don't trust their methods at all, this is a general comment not meant to dispute anything about skunks.

When I was working, they would test products we developed and their methods were about 6th grade level and generally no useful at all.  Their stuff on cars is ridiculous in my opinion.  Anyway, enough of that.

The tomato juice does "work", just not as well and not as fast, and it can leave a mess.  

The baking soda item is something you should not get in your eyes obviously, but then Dawn in your eyes is not good either.

Drug store peroxide is about 3% active.  Reagent grade is 30% and some is 50%, which is pretty dangerous.  We once got some 90% from duPont back in the day.  

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Re: An Ode to 1997 SOC September 22
« Reply #279 on: September 23, 2018, 11:53:57 AM »
In my opinion, in general, Consumer Reports is a hack magazine.  I don't trust their methods at all, this is a general comment not meant to dispute anything about skunks.
That's all good and fine but i read that back in the late '90s.A lot of honorable things have went by the wayside since then.Most everything that I've purchased by CRs advice has been commendable however
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