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OrangeAfroMan

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All-Decade ideas
« on: June 28, 2020, 12:30:02 AM »
I'm not wanting to make this a big statistical thread like I have in the past.  So I'll just put who I'm thinking of for all-decade teams for Whoa Nellie and you guys could maybe just comment?  
If the stats are close enough, I'm erring towards star-power/notoriety.  These need to be known names for football fans.

QBs (3 QB seasons per decade):
1970s:  1979 Art Schlichter, 1977 Mark Hermann, 1975 Tony Dungy
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1980s:  1980 Mark Hermann, 1984 Chuck Long, 1985 Jim Harbaugh
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1990s:  1994 Kerry Collins, 1991 Elvis Grbac, 1995 Bobby Hoying
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2000s:  2006 Troy Smith, 2001 Jeff Smoker, 2002 Brad Banks
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2010s:  2011 Russell Wilson, 2019 Justin Fields, 2018 Dwayne Haskins


**my biggest pause here is excluding Chuck Hartlieb, who had the highest single-season pass rating of the decade.  But he's not well known, and probably suffers from being the guy after Chuck Long.
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Re: All-Decade ideas
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2020, 12:35:11 AM »
all-decade RBs

1970s:  1974 Archie Griffin, 1976 Rob Lytle, 1972 Otis Armstrong, 1971 Eric Allen
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1980s:  1989 Anthony Thompson, 1985 Lorenzo White, 1984 Keith Byars, 1987 Jamie Morris
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1990s:  1996 Ron Dayne, 1991 Vaughn Dunbar, 1995 Eddie George, 1994 Ki-Jana Carter
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2000s:  2000 Damien Anderson, 2002 Larry Johnson, 2008 Shonn Greene, 2007 Rashard Mendenhall
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2010s:  2014 Melvin Gordon, 2018 Jonathan Taylor, 2015 Ezekiel Elliott, 2011 Montee Ball

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Re: All-Decade ideas
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2020, 12:50:23 AM »
All-decade WRs.....there's 6 pass-catchers per team in the game, and I'm saving 1 slot for a RB and 1 for a TE, so these are 4 WR per team:

1970s:  1978 Kirk Gibson, 1977 Reggie Arnold, 1975 Scott Yelvington, 1974 Trent Smock
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1980s:  1984 David Williams, 1986 Cris Carter, 1980 Anthony Carter, 1988 Andre Rison
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1990s:  1991 Desmond Howard, 1998 David Boston, 1995 Terry Glenn, 1996 D'Wayne Bates
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2000s:  2001 Lee Evans, 2001 Charles Rogers, 2004 Braylon Edwards, 2002 John Standeford
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2010s:  2011 Marvin McNutt, 2013 Allen Robinson, 2015 Aaron Burbridge, 2018 Rondale Moore
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Re: All-Decade ideas
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2020, 01:05:01 AM »
Pass-rushers will be gradual, as there's no one source going back very far.  I'll add to the same post here as I track them down.  The growing list will then be edited down, just gathering names for now.

Sacks:
1970s:  1977 Larry Bethea
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1980s:  1985 Mark Messner, 1987 Travis Davis, 1984 Kelly Quinn, 1987 Van Waiters, 1985 Mike Hammerstein, 1988 John Kasherski
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1990s:  1995 Mike Vrabel, 1998 Tom Burke, 1996 Tarek Saleh, 1999 Courtney Brown, 1996 Jared DeVries, 1991 Leroy Smith, 1994 Simeon Rice, 1999 Julian Peterson, 1998 Rosevelt Colvin, 1997 Lamanzer Williams
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2000s:  2006 LaMarr Woodley, 2007 Vernon Gholston, 2002 Michael Haynes, 2003 Shaun Phillips, 2009 Ryan Kerrigan, 2007 Greg Middleton
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2010s: 2019 Chase Young, 2014 Joey Bosa, 2015 Carl Nassib, 2011 Whitney Mercilus
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Re: All-Decade ideas
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2020, 01:28:50 AM »
And there's the question of whether to include players in seasons before their team joined (pre-1993 Penn State, pre-whenever Nebraska, etc).
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Re: All-Decade ideas
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2020, 12:21:14 PM »
IF you are including nebraska... no tommie at QB?  I'd take Vince Ferragmo over tony dungy?  Crouch won a Heisman..  No Mike Rozier in the 80's at rb?  No Irving fryar?  No FB's?

and you include trev alberts, but he wasn't the best DE at UNL in the 90's.  Neil Smith played at UNL in the 80's as well.

I'm not suggesting UNL should be included, but since you included one that was pre-BIG10 move, there is a lot of misses on your list..
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Re: All-Decade ideas
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2020, 12:25:42 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 28, 2020, 12:35:11 AM
all-decade RBs

1970s:  1974 Archie Griffin, 1976 Rob Lytle, 1972 Otis Armstrong, 1971 Eric Allen
.
1980s:  1989 Anthony Thompson, 1985 Lorenzo White, 1984 Keith Byars, 1987 Jamie Morris
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1990s:  1996 Ron Dayne, 1991 Vaughn Dunbar, 1995 Eddie George, 1994 Ki-Jana Carter
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2000s:  2000 Damien Anderson, 2002 Larry Johnson, 2008 Shonn Greene, 2007 Rashard Mendenhall
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2010s:  2014 Melvin Gordon, 2018 Jonathan Taylor, 2015 Ezekiel Elliott, 2011 Montee Ball


You forgot Saquon Barkley... :)
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Re: All-Decade ideas
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2020, 01:25:46 PM »
Quote from: Big Beef Tacosupreme on June 28, 2020, 12:25:42 PM
You forgot Saquon Barkley... :)
Which player's season do you take off to put Barkley's (SO, JR?) season on there?
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Re: All-Decade ideas
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2020, 02:34:04 PM »
Quote from: iahawk15 on June 28, 2020, 01:25:46 PM
Which player's season do you take off to put Barkley's (SO, JR?) season on there?
Based on the rest of his post, it doesn't seem like you need to take someone off.
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Re: All-Decade ideas
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2020, 04:13:41 PM »
Quote from: Big Beef Tacosupreme on June 28, 2020, 02:34:04 PM
Based on the rest of his post, it doesn't seem like you need to take someone off.
Yes, RBs are 4 only, so one would need to be removed.
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Re: All-Decade ideas
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2020, 04:15:42 PM »
Quote from: Entropy on June 28, 2020, 12:21:14 PM
IF you are including nebraska... no tommie at QB?  I'd take Vince Ferragmo over tony dungy?  Crouch won a Heisman..  No Mike Rozier in the 80's at rb?  No Irving fryar?  No FB's?

and you include trev alberts, but he wasn't the best DE at UNL in the 90's.  Neil Smith played at UNL in the 80's as well.

I'm not suggesting UNL should be included, but since you included one that was pre-BIG10 move, there is a lot of misses on your list..
Yeah, you're making me think players shouldn't be included before their school was a B10 member.  

And for the sacks guys, I'm just reaching.  What's posted here is the single largest group of B10 sack leaders on the internet.  They're all sprinkled individually by school, and officially only go back to 2005.  It's stupid.
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Re: All-Decade ideas
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2020, 04:24:50 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 28, 2020, 04:13:41 PM
Yes, RBs are 4 only, so one would need to be removed.
I'd probably remove Ball or Gordon
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Re: All-Decade ideas
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2020, 04:28:46 PM »
You'd remove Gordon's 2,500 yard season?
I know people would love Barkley included, and Ball isn't as big a name.  I couldn't omit Gordon, he had the 2nd-most yards in a season, ever.
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Re: All-Decade ideas
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2020, 04:56:03 PM »
Just perusing around, some fun facts on Travis Etienne of Clemson:

17 career 100 yard games, he's only had 20+ carries in a game TWICE.

In his 3 career games vs Louisville, he has 443 yards on 28 carries (15.8 yards per carry).  

He had fewer than 15 carries in 11 of his 17 career 100-yard games.
To go along with that, of his 3 career 200-yard games, 2 of them were under 15 carries.  

He averages 7.0 yards per carry or better in home, road, and neutral games, in wins and losses.
The only month he averages under 7.3 ypc is January.

His yards per rush vs the RB with the next-most carries for Clemson by year:
2017:  +0.9
2018:  +2.5
2019:  +1.7

He'll be a very interesting case when he's drafted.  Low miles, huge numbers, but I don't think there'll be a Saquon Barkley-like "slam dunk" consensus opinion of him for whatever reason.

To be honest, his career is a good argument to downgrade the ACC as a G5-type conference.  I mean, that's how far ahead Clemson is from the rest of the pack.
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