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iahawk15

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All B1G Teams Announced
« on: November 27, 2018, 08:18:10 PM »
http://btn.com/2018/11/27/here-is-the-2018-all-big-ten-football-defense-special-teams/

http://btn.com/2018/11/28/here-is-the-2018-big-ten-football-all-conference-offense/



Coaches Defense


Media Defense


DL POY: Kenny Willekes, Michigan State
LB POY: Devin Bush, Michigan
DB POY: Amani Hooker, Iowa


DPOY: Devin Bush

Coaches Offense


Media Offense


QB POY: Dwayne Haskins, Ohio State
RB POY: Jonathon Taylor, Wisconsin
WR POY: Rondale Moore
TE POY: T.J. Hockenson, Iowa
OL POY: Michael Deiter, Wisconsin

OPOY: Dwayne Haskins, Ohio State

Coach of the Year: Pat Fitzgerald
« Last Edit: November 28, 2018, 07:53:02 PM by iahawk15 »

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Re: All B1G Teams Announced (defense & ST so far)
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2018, 08:44:38 PM »
Gary didn't deserve 1st team or 2nd team. He missed 4 games this year and when he did play he was a non-factor in most games.

David Long had a better year than LaVert Hill, he deserved 1st team over LaVert Hill in the media poll.

No question Devin Bush and Chase Winovich belonged. I'd argue Chase should've won Defensive Player of the Year over Bush.

edit: can't believe Khaleke Hudson's regression. Looked like an absolute stud in 2017 primed for a dominant 2018 and potential 1st or 2nd round pick- to being a complete non-factor and not even making All-B1G 3rd team. Not sure I've seen a defensive player take a bigger step back ever.
« Last Edit: November 27, 2018, 08:46:31 PM by Mdot21 »

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Re: All B1G Teams Announced (defense & ST so far)
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2018, 10:23:31 PM »
This is the 4th time since 2012 that Iowa has had the Big Ten DB POY

Micah Hyde - 2012
Desmond King - 2015
Josh Jackson - 2017
Amani Hooker - 2018

It is not just a coincidence that Phil Parker was promoted to Iowa's DC in 2012 while continuing to coach the DB's at the same time.

I am afraid one day somebody is going to recognize the guru that Parker is and steal him away from Iowa.

iahawk15

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Re: All B1G Teams Announced
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2018, 07:43:27 PM »
This is the 4th time since 2012 that Iowa has had the Big Ten DB POY

Micah Hyde - 2012
Desmond King - 2015
Josh Jackson - 2017
Amani Hooker - 2018

It is not just a coincidence that Phil Parker was promoted to Iowa's DC in 2012 while continuing to coach the DB's at the same time.

I am afraid one day somebody is going to recognize the guru that Parker is and steal him away from Iowa.
I'm not concerned about Parker going anywhere. I don't think he has any desire to be a HC, and I don't see him leaving Kirk for a bigger program. He may move on when Kirk retires.
I'll also add I was pretty surprised to see Hooker get DB POY. He's a good player and I'm glad to have him, but that vote tells me there just wasn't a dominant CB in the league this year.
I usually place much more value in the coaches vote than media, but they had some really odd picks this year. Maybe this is an effect of league size, so coaches who didn't see a player are relying on reputation? As an example for Iowa, I can't imagine any coach who watched film would vote Fant over Hockenson at TE.

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Re: All B1G Teams Announced
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2018, 07:58:30 PM »
Do these awards have any/much tangible value?

iahawk15

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Re: All B1G Teams Announced
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2018, 08:01:46 PM »
Do these awards have any/much tangible value?
As far as what?

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Re: All B1G Teams Announced
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2018, 09:38:57 PM »
This is the 4th time since 2012 that Iowa has had the Big Ten DB POY

Micah Hyde - 2012
Desmond King - 2015
Josh Jackson - 2017
Amani Hooker - 2018

It is not just a coincidence that Phil Parker was promoted to Iowa's DC in 2012 while continuing to coach the DB's at the same time.

I am afraid one day somebody is going to recognize the guru that Parker is and steal him away from Iowa.
I was just thinking this, too.
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Re: All B1G Teams Announced
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2018, 10:25:42 PM »
I am going to pat myself on the back a little.

When voting on the pre-season all Big Ten teams this last summer on this board, I argued that Iowa could have both the 1st and 2nd team All Big Ten TE's, which came true.

I also argued that Amani Hooker was going to be an All Big Ten Safety, which came true.

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Re: All B1G Teams Announced
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2018, 11:34:58 AM »

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Re: All B1G Teams Announced
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2018, 01:04:26 PM »
OK, I'll bite.

A)  Purdue, which had arguably the 2nd best offense in the Big Ten gets exactly ONE player on the entire coaches team?  I know I'm biased, but that seems a hair low.

B)  With that said, most of the individual awards seem OK.  Nothing too "out there".....with one blatant exception.  What the hell did Trace McSorley do this year that warranted 2nd team for both coaches and media?  He didn't have a bad year, and he had better than average running stats for a QB.....but compared to a good chunk of the other QB's in the conference he is not even close.  His stats were actually significantly WORSE than last year (when he also got 2nd team).  For the Big Ten, his QB rating was about 7th, QB yards 8th, YPA 7th, Completion percentage 11th.  He was only the 2nd best QB rusher in the conference (Illinois Bush, who played 2 less games).  Was this some kind of "lifetime achievement award"?  I just don't get it.

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Re: All B1G Teams Announced
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2018, 01:06:11 PM »
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Re: All B1G Teams Announced
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2018, 01:08:32 PM »
grillrat... I actually agree with you on b).   I also felt on defense there were a few players giving conference honors based upon reputation and not performance.    
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iahawk15

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Re: All B1G Teams Announced
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2018, 01:30:00 PM »
As far as anything?
I guess I'm trying to figure out the motivation for your question, which is why I asked for clarification. Are you asking if they receive trophies or certificates or monetary value? Or are you asking if the awards are meaningless?

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Re: All B1G Teams Announced
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2018, 01:35:14 PM »
I guess I'm trying to figure out the motivation for your question, which is why I asked for clarification. Are you asking if they receive trophies or certificates or monetary value? Or are you asking if the awards are meaningless?
I think they get an award, no?
Silver Football to Haskins this year??
The UW OL got a lot of recognition. Voters must have looked at their pre-season votes and held same so as to not look stupid. Only Benz and maybe Badass deserved anything.
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