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Topic: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center

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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #281 on: March 08, 2025, 10:12:24 AM »
 And if it's a woman, it can never be a pay cut, because y = .7x  :57:
I infer this is something about women earning less than men, which is widely disputed for obvious reasons.

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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #282 on: March 08, 2025, 10:18:08 AM »
do female teachers makes less?
superintendents?, principals?
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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #283 on: March 08, 2025, 10:26:53 AM »
Imagine I ran a business and could hire women to do the SAME JOB as men, for 80% the salary.  I'd be a fool not to hire every woman I could.

I can't because they don't.  

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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #284 on: March 08, 2025, 04:57:42 PM »
How about generic lawyer X (I know, that doesn't exist) makes partner at a firm (so it took awhile to get in that spot).......he's taking a pay cut if he "advances" to being a judge, yes?
Yes, this is a common occurrence. 

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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #285 on: March 08, 2025, 08:54:24 PM »
Related topic I'm just curious about:

Do Federal judicial salaries vary based on local cost of living?

I'm wondering because if the are uniform then I imagine that a Federal Judge in say NYC or San Francisco is poor while one in say KC is rich.
This reminds me of the fact that doctor salaries are often inverse of cost of living. Living in more out of the way places tends to pay more. 

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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #286 on: March 08, 2025, 09:36:27 PM »
I'm guessing there are limits
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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #287 on: March 08, 2025, 11:57:49 PM »
Im worried were going to f'ix ' the pension shortfalls in a similar fashion as we saw when the government waived away the rights of creditors with certain bailouts of certain companies during financial crisis.

What....these bonds ..  ..they don't mean anything
Yeah, me too.  That is why I want them to force funding by doing something like my proposal here to drop the Public Sector exemption from ERISA and make them catch-up over time.  That would be a MUCH better solution than waiting until the State of Illinois or the City of Chicago goes broke and then bailing them out.  

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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #288 on: March 09, 2025, 12:04:42 AM »
You could make the same argument about congresspeople. Should my congressperson make more than one from Mississippi? It costs a lot more to live here. My congressperson actually isn't independently wealthy. He lives a very moderate lifestyle. The person he replaced was independently wealthy, which is more of the norm.

As it is for a lot of federal judges, at least in this area.

On the one hand, I want to agree with you. Once upon a time I wanted to be a judge. Then I hit the point when it became economically irrational for me to try for that. I would have to become much more wealthy than I am currently on track for to want to switch now, given how long I hope to have left before I retire.
FWIW, I've made the argument before that I think Congresspeople are underpaid.  Per my quick google (could be wrong), they make $174k/yr which is just not much given the job that they do.  

I think the biggest issue for Congresspeople is not so much their home cost of living but their distance from DC.  A VERY few congresspeople live close enough to DC to actually commute from home so they only have to maintain ONE residence.  The rest need to maintain two residences and that is obviously pretty expensive on just $174k/yr.  

We have a similar issue here in Ohio.  The base salary for a Representative in Ohio is $71,099.  They do get extra for committee chairs but I don't think that is all that big of a deal.  

If you are a lawyer who lives and works in the Columbus area, this is a REALLY good deal.  Your firm will generally give you a lot of leeway because there is prestige value in having an Ohio Rep as a partner and you can commute to the Capitol and still work some at your firm.  

If you are say a farmer or plant manager from Ashtabula, this sucks.  You are a three hour commute from the Statehouse, you can't really do your job at home because you are away too much, and you basically need a second home in Columbus.  

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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #289 on: March 09, 2025, 12:24:02 AM »
do female teachers makes less?
superintendents?, principals?
That's all set, regardless of who is in the position.  We make what we make.
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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #290 on: March 09, 2025, 12:25:38 AM »
I infer this is something about women earning less than men, which is widely disputed for obvious reasons.
Hence the :57:
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #291 on: March 09, 2025, 09:12:57 AM »
FWIW, I've made the argument before that I think Congresspeople are underpaid.  Per my quick google (could be wrong), they make $174k/yr which is just not much given the job that they do. 
I'm not saying you're wrong, just sayin, we don't seem to have a shortage of candidates
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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #292 on: March 09, 2025, 09:19:03 AM »
Aside from just money, humans thrive on status.  It's a pretty big deal to be a Congressperson, like being a Federal judge.  It isn't the money, it's the status, having people cater to you, being "important", feeling like you're somebody.  You walk around and people notice, you have a staff getting you coffee, etc.

And there is a lot of etc.

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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #293 on: March 09, 2025, 09:41:23 AM »
like a rock star
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