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Topic: #9 Tennessee (10-3) at #8 Ohio State (11-2) Post Game

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Mdot21

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Re: #9 Tennessee (10-3) at #8 Ohio State (11-2) Post Game
« Reply #252 on: December 22, 2024, 12:49:20 PM »
so is Ryan Day good again or is he the worst coach in America and needs to be fired? just checking Bucknutjob fans :)

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Re: #9 Tennessee (10-3) at #8 Ohio State (11-2) Post Game
« Reply #253 on: December 22, 2024, 12:58:19 PM »
@#!$&^%*() brain dead fucktard harbaugh - how is that for an answer :111: Day's got a stay of excecution,Where was this team on 11/30? or against Mizzou in the bowl last year? This game just makes the Michigan game feel even worse. No matter what happens that's how the season will be remembered most - unless they get the Hardware

IMO the thin O-line gets exposed next week,but who the eff knows
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Re: #9 Tennessee (10-3) at #8 Ohio State (11-2) Post Game
« Reply #254 on: December 22, 2024, 01:05:51 PM »
so is Ryan Day good again or is he the worst coach in America and needs to be fired? just checking Bucknutjob fans :)
Only the truly over the top nuts were calling for day's head.  And most probably still are.

No doubt he screwed the pooch against thunder but who else we going to get to replace him

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Re: #9 Tennessee (10-3) at #8 Ohio State (11-2) Post Game
« Reply #255 on: December 22, 2024, 05:29:27 PM »
Day is the best coach in all of CFB.


For now.

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Re: #9 Tennessee (10-3) at #8 Ohio State (11-2) Post Game
« Reply #256 on: December 22, 2024, 05:53:28 PM »
Only the truly over the top nuts were calling for day's head. 
:051bye: you do realize he's not given 10.3 million per and a 37 mil buyout for an atta boy,participation trophy or a pass for:
Failing to win the Big Ten Conf. Championship 4 straight years
Failing to beat Michigan in 4 straight years
If he wasn't going to beat them this year then when the hell is he? You OK for laying an egg vs Mizzou last year,also?
Day took his 30 pieces of silver time to face the consequences.Again where was that game plan with that same roster 3 weeks ago
The fact he was NEVER a Head Coach in Division I has shown.
It's natty or bust he's shat the bed enough
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Re: #9 Tennessee (10-3) at #8 Ohio State (11-2) Post Game
« Reply #257 on: December 22, 2024, 07:54:39 PM »
:051bye: you do realize he's not given 10.3 million per and a 37 mil buyout for an atta boy,participation trophy or a pass for:
Failing to win the Big Ten Conf. Championship 4 straight years
Failing to beat Michigan in 4 straight years
If he wasn't going to beat them this year then when the hell is he? You OK for laying an egg vs Mizzou last year,also?
Day took his 30 pieces of silver time to face the consequences.Again where was that game plan with that same roster 3 weeks ago
The fact he was NEVER a Head Coach in Division I has shown.
It's natty or bust he's shat the bed enough
No not happy but I not convinced that any of the alternatives are better.  As I said he and chip screwed the pooch against ttun

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Re: #9 Tennessee (10-3) at #8 Ohio State (11-2) Post Game
« Reply #258 on: December 24, 2024, 11:38:00 AM »
alrighty.. my wounds have been sufficiently licked and my constitution restored enough to do what i must, which is to eat the crow i so eloquently prepared for myself. 


i have to remind myself that i am a college football fan first.  that without participation from others, there would be no team to follow.  and, to make that work you gotta have some understanding of how the moving parts and pieces of the game move and what their intent is.  

old timers here from way back on fox or scout or whatever prior iteration may or may not recall my often stated position that football, in an overarching explanation in search of it's essence is about one thing and one thing only- and that is playing a game within your comfort zone, and being practiced enough to play explicitly cohesive.  The team that plays with cohesion wins every single time.  the team that plays within their ability or defining skillset plays in their comfort zone.   it's a rare thing when two teams play that are each within their range of comfort and play as a unit- we call those classic games.... and even then, one leverages, through discovery of the field generals, a weakness or mismatch that they believe can be exploited without revealing their own weakness or gap. 

it's a thing that's hard to explain without examples, but i ain't here to offer those... i want this meal of crow over with.  i'll just say "two great teams can meet and one will seemingly knock the crap out of the other to everyone's surprise, leaving an impression one was heads and shoulders above the other when the truth of the matter is there was only one true exploitation- one mismatch- one imbalance that the opposing teams general identified and exploited- it could be a receiver that racks up 250yds receiving and 4 touchdowns which makes it obvious- and less obvious when that receiver is shut down shortly after discovery, but at the cost of weakening another matchup somewhere.  the delta on the scoreboard makes it seem as if it didn't come down to just a single matchup, but in truth it did.... that's why i like watching these games- it brings in talent laden with skill (development) and refined with practiced execution akin to a symphony, which is all on the underling coaches to withdraw from kids... and then the general and his majors scheme according to what their intel has discovered and what they see being presented real time. 

well... ^that isn't at all what happened in this game^.  

i truly believed 'at worst' that^ would be what was involved, and even so i figured my Vols had a fighters chance in such a condition.  i 'thought' i'd spotted the weaknesses our coach would attempt to exploit, but they weren't there... at all... i thought tOSU was overrated and overhyped and taking station in the glow of their own legend, which makes them ripe for a fall.  i was right about that part, but it wasn't tOSU that was ripe... 

there isn't a single aspect of that game where UT looked like UT.  it's because from the opening kickoff they were nowhere near their comfort zone.  not one single play did i see them execute with confidence as if they were just 'going through the motions but knew how it would turn out'.... in short, they were beat by the coaches before the horn... they lined up against a team supposedly depleted, and allowed more 1st quarter yards than they have all year- they were manhandled by this 'depleted' yet inspired team.  they were beat by the players talent and development.  they were denied the simplest of plays that have worked all season when times were tough- even when they still had a chance- they lost all semblance of cohesion... and when that happens? it's all but impossible to regain.  

after the half, all i needed to see was the first drive to know the end.  coaches didn't respond.  players didn't respond.  tOSU found yet more fuel to burn from the fading soul of General Neyland, and laid that heat to 'em. 

......... that isn't the tOSU team i've seen play this season, not that i've watched a bunch of them, but that was a team on a mission and my poor underprepared and ill-equipped fellas were the meal to feed them.  

UT had that spark, last, when they beat Bama at Neyland under Hendon Hooker.  ... that, by the way, was just a single mismatch on the field, though (after i said i wouldn't give examples) - there was no single mismatch in this game- there were mismatches all over the field and nary a one in UT's favor. 

 

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Re: #9 Tennessee (10-3) at #8 Ohio State (11-2) Post Game
« Reply #259 on: December 24, 2024, 11:48:54 AM »
Yeah - fans (especially those who never played the sport) can forget the amazing range of performance levels and outcomes for a given team. 

We have had the debate here a zillion times.  It is not how good a team “is” but rather what they are capable of.   And for most teams- the variability is WIDE!   That was not the best version of UT.   Probably was the best version of OSU.  
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Re: #9 Tennessee (10-3) at #8 Ohio State (11-2) Post Game
« Reply #260 on: December 24, 2024, 12:49:23 PM »
Ohio State has the talent to be as good as or better than any team in the nation on any given day. It's also quite possible that Ohio State's coach isn't great at preparing them on every given day, particularly those that involve their primary and ancient rival.

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Re: #9 Tennessee (10-3) at #8 Ohio State (11-2) Post Game
« Reply #261 on: December 24, 2024, 01:02:52 PM »
Ohio State has the talent to be as good as or better than any team in the nation on any given day. It's also quite possible that Ohio State's coach isn't great at preparing them on every given day, particularly those that involve their primary and ancient rival.
Yes. Only 1-4 versus arch rival    But the best winning % of all active coaches, 4 CFP appearances in 6 seasons, 4 top ten finishes and 3 top 5. 

He was not getting fired despite what the looneys yelling.  

His record v Um does suck- but Harbaugh started 0-5 v OSU and Kirby is 1-6 v his rival.  People are nuts. 
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Re: #9 Tennessee (10-3) at #8 Ohio State (11-2) Post Game
« Reply #262 on: December 24, 2024, 03:42:35 PM »
Harbaugh started 0-5 v OSU
Harbaugh is still 0-5 v tOSU, or at least he will be once the ill-gotten gains are vacated.  

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Re: #9 Tennessee (10-3) at #8 Ohio State (11-2) Post Game
« Reply #263 on: December 24, 2024, 05:06:05 PM »
Kinda fun to watch this rando Vols fan experience the Shoe for the first time.



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Re: #9 Tennessee (10-3) at #8 Ohio State (11-2) Post Game
« Reply #264 on: December 24, 2024, 09:16:59 PM »
Yes. Only 1-4 versus arch rival    But the best winning % of all active coaches, 4 CFP appearances in 6 seasons, 4 top ten finishes and 3 top 5.

He was not getting fired despite what the looneys yelling. 

His record v Um does suck- but Harbaugh started 0-5 v OSU and Kirby is 1-6 v his rival.  People are nuts.
underlined part is a great point and pretty sure Dabo had a bad streak vs his rival and took him awhile to break through.

The 1-4 vs the rival thing is a problem for Day, but in his 6 years as head coach I believe he's made the CFP in 4 of those years and he's won at least 11 games every year (sans COVID year) and finished in the AP top 10 all 6 seasons, he gets top 5 recruiting classes year in year out, runs a clean program, develops tons of NFL draft picks....Ohio State could do A LOT worse.

Ryan Day is one of the very best coaches in the sport, period.

 

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