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Topic: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game

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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2018, 12:29:11 PM »
I would really like to see Make Hart as Michigan's running backs coach if only for this game.
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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2018, 12:31:36 PM »
I would really like to see Make Hart as Michigan's running backs coach if only for this game.
It's too bad he's coaching at another Big Ten school, because otherwise, if they made him honorary captain, I'd have to applaud that level of trolling.
I'd like to see MSU use Jalen Watts-Jackson in that role this year, now that he's medically retired.  Need to get some dirt on Blake O'Neill and blackmail him into being our captain.  That would probably be the only trump card.

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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2018, 12:35:58 PM »
The UM is MSU's "Super Bowl"?
Yeah
UM is MSU's Ohio State.
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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #31 on: October 16, 2018, 01:02:24 PM »
We had this discussion last year when someone else made the claim during a UM broadcast that Joel Klatt sounded like a weird Harbaugh homer, and I went through and dug up all of the pro-Harbaugh articles that Joel Klatt had written for FOX in just the previous like 6 months.
Not that there's anything wrong with it, but he is
Klatt is a Ralphie loving Colorado Buffalo
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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2018, 01:10:06 PM »
I don't follow.
Is Michigan Ohio State's Super Bowl?

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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2018, 01:14:18 PM »
Should be a fun game.  MSU a little more equipped defensively, and Dantonio usually has a few tricks for Michigan.  Hopefully MSU still has something in the tank after a big win, though.
Not clear, but I think you are saying that MSU has a better overall defense than M. Or are you saying they are a step up from what Michigan has seen since ND?

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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2018, 01:16:00 PM »
sounds like Joel Klatt and Gus Johnson will be doing the game. Thank god. Last Michigan game on Fox was Tim Brando's drunk ass who kept mispronouncing all the players' names. That guy should probably just retire.
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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2018, 01:17:15 PM »
against a really crappy 3-9 team. Which he should've buried and was on the route to burying until the team let up the gas and let them kind of get back in it.
Meh, he did bury them. And then Dantonio played for defeat-with-dignity. Still a 2-score game and the eye test said it was less close than that. Definitely not a good team, though.
Of course, you could argue that neither 2016 (MSU was better than 3-9) nor 2017 (MSU seemed worse than 9-3) worked out in proportion to the team.

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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #36 on: October 16, 2018, 01:19:34 PM »
We had this discussion last year when someone else made the claim during a UM broadcast that Joel Klatt sounded like a weird Harbaugh homer, and I went through and dug up all of the pro-Harbaugh articles that Joel Klatt had written for FOX in just the previous like 6 months.
Not that there's anything wrong with it, but he is
Isn't he a homer for every helmet he writes on?

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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #37 on: October 16, 2018, 01:22:09 PM »
PFF's list of the highest rated CB's from the P5 conferences who have limited receivers in coverage. Michigan's David Long #1 on that list. Again.

Fewest yards allowed, per coverage snap.

1) David Long, Michigan - 0.15
2) Julius Brents, Iowa - 0.23
3) Maurice Smitherman, Miss State - 0.26
4) Innis Gaines, TCU - 0.30
5) Derrick Baity Jr, Kentucky - 0.38
6) Alontae Taylor, Tennesee - 0.41



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Love this backfield. I'm surprised there are no LSU guys on there. Miami, either. I know they're great. Makes me think this is cherry-picking a bit (not against you, MDot, but PFF). They really do a good job baiting us sometimes.

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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #38 on: October 16, 2018, 01:32:10 PM »
Meh, he did bury them. And then Dantonio played for defeat-with-dignity. Still a 2-score game and the eye test said it was less close than that. Definitely not a good team, though.
Of course, you could argue that neither 2016 (MSU was better than 3-9) nor 2017 (MSU seemed worse than 9-3) worked out in proportion to the team.
Huh?
The problem wasn't kicking the field goal, it was missing the field goal.
If he had made that FG, it would have been a 10 point game when MSU had the ball 4th and goal from the 8, rather than a 13 point game.  Then MSU could have kicked the chip shot FG and made it a 7 point game.  Instead cutting it from 13 to 10 was irrelevant, and they had to go for it, and not only didn't get it, but Peppers broke Lewerke's leg on the sack, ending his season.
Therefore when MSU got the ball back, and scored with 1 second to go, they were down 13 instead of 7.  If they had made that FG though, then it would have allowed them to kick the FG the next possession.  Now I'm not going to say they would have gone down and scored the tying touchdown, the way they did, because obviously UM defends the field much differently with a 7 point lead vs. 13.  But they would have at least had a shot.  Missing that FG took that shot away.  It's not like it was 4th 3.  It was 4th and goal from the 17.  That's a nearly impossible conversion.
And yes, it was a 2 score game, because then the dumb decision he did make was to go for 2 to make it a 5 point deficit, and instead Peppers returned the 2 point conversion to make it 9, when just kicking the PAT would have made it 6.
But no, I agree with MDot, he didn't bury them at all.  UM kicked the FG to go up 30-10 with 14:40 left.  From that point on, UM had 3 drives, two of them were 3 and out.  For the rest of the game, they had 13 plays for 41 yards and 1 first down.  MSU from that point ran 30 plays for 256 yards.  That is about as poor a job as closing out a game as one can have.

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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #39 on: October 16, 2018, 01:38:17 PM »
Is Michigan Ohio State's Super Bowl?
In your various half assed sentence fragments, are you trying to suggest that OSU is to Michigan as Michigan is to Michigan St? 
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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #40 on: October 16, 2018, 01:44:43 PM »
I was just commenting on how MSU had that beautifully scripted drive to go up 7-0 but then found itself down 27-10 in the 4th and Michigan just salted it away**, but The State News apparently thought they saw something competitive. This boggles:



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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #41 on: October 16, 2018, 01:45:49 PM »
But no, I agree with MDot, he didn't bury them at all.  UM kicked the FG to go up 30-10 with 14:40 left.  From that point on, UM had 3 drives, two of them were 3 and out.  For the rest of the game, they had 13 plays for 41 yards and 1 first down.  MSU from that point ran 30 plays for 256 yards.  That is about as poor a job as closing out a game as one can have.
We strongly disagree on the significance of those margins.

 

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