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Stumbled across this in the twitterverse.  She has two real good points:


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MB, while I agree with your data side of it, if you were a Michigan fan that went through a VERY LONG period of losing to the rival and never finishing the job in games that were competitive(which many weren't), the Edwards 75 yarder would have been more meaningful to you. Yes, the odds to win might have shown in the 90's, but that run... was the moment, Michigan faithful that had been through a long stretch, that they were able to feel the "this is happening!" moment.

I get your perspective, but when you're a team that goes through a period of not shutting the door, it makes plays like that even more powerful when the game is technically not over. Stats say one thing.. living through Tressel and Urban told me that game wasn't over and that TD was big.

This makes perfect sense to me.  It is a matter of perspective.  From my perspective the game was pretty much already lost.  In my head I was still calculating possibilities but I was well aware that the chances were near-zero so Edwards' 75 yard run didn't really sting because to me it was already over.  I'll also add that the bigger issue to me was whether or not tOSU got the stop so the first 10 yards of his run stung more than the last 65.  Ie, from my perspective any realistic chance of tOSU winning died once he crossed the line to gain so the other 65 yards were superfluous.  

This makes perfect sense to me.  It is a matter of perspective.  From my perspective the game was pretty much already lost.  In my head I was still calculating possibilities but I was well aware that the chances were near-zero so Edwards' 75 yard run didn't really sting because to me it was already over.  I'll also add that the bigger issue to me was whether or not tOSU got the stop so the first 10 yards of his run stung more than the last 65.  Ie, from my perspective any realistic chance of tOSU winning died once he crossed the line to gain so the other 65 yards were superfluous. 

so when your team is down 8 with 7 minutes to go, you think a first down seals it? yes, we have different perspectives. 

so when your team is down 8 with 7 minutes to go, you think a first down seals it? yes, we have different perspectives.

Not 100%, no but reality starts to set in.  

In my mental calculations suppose Edwards tripped and fell exactly at the first down marker so it is 1st and 10 Michigan at the M 35 with ~7 minutes to go and M protecting a 31-23 lead, in my head:

• M can (and will) run three times and chew up 35-40 seconds per play so close to 2 minutes
• Even with a three-and-out, M will be punting from around their 40 with around 5 minutes to go
• Unless their punter epically fails, they'll stick that close to the goal line
• Ohio State ball almost 100 yards from the EZ with <5 minutes to go and needing a TD, a 2pt Conv, a Stop, and to win in OT.  

What the first down did was it effectively eliminated the possibility of tOSU winning in two scores.  With an immediate stop the Buckeyes would have gotten the ball in decent field position with closer to 6 minutes to go so if they scored quickly the 2pt conversion wouldn't necessarily be do-or-die because they'd have enough time to possibly get a stop then go kick a FG to win.  

I'm a block and a half from circles and I'd meet you there but I have a Service Club meeting for lunch.

I'm too far North, but I'm good for a few times a year parading my family around the square in all Maize and Blue, especially into Circles as my cousin owns it and they are HUGE Buckeye fans. If you need help with your attire, I can overnight you Western Michigan gear for tomorrow?

I'm too far North, but I'm good for a few times a year parading my family around the square in all Maize and Blue, especially into Circles as my cousin owns it and they are HUGE Buckeye fans. If you need help with your attire, I can overnight you Western Michigan gear for tomorrow?

Ohio State's early season schedule is so pathetic that I honestly didn't even know which Directional Michigan they were playing on Saturday. 

ooof just looked at your schedule, that's... sad.

The good news is, you've got the Horns coming to Columbus next year!

It undeniably is.

The Buckeyes typically have one marquee OOC each year and I think that the one planned for this year ended up switching leagues so the game got canceled and now we are left with two MAC teams and We Are Marshall.