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Topic: #4 Penn State (1-0, 4-0) at Iowa (0-1, 3-1) Post Game

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Re: #4 Penn State (3-0) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2017, 11:08:46 AM »
Penn State seems to be the B1G's OU this year.  Tough defense, and some explosiveness on offense.  If they get up 14-0 early thanks to a couple of big plays, that's all she wrote.  Iowa does not have the horses to dig itself out of a multi-score hole, especially against a team of the Nits' caliber.

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Re: #4 Penn State (3-0) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2017, 11:57:03 AM »
While perhaps late October games against Michigan and Ohio State will settle the East, and determine Penn State's playoff fate, this game is plenty scary.  Last year in a night game at home the Hawkeyes upset #2 Michigan 14-13, in a defensive slugfest.  The Hawkeyes have won their last 4 night games in Kinnick, their last loss coming to Penn State back in 2012, and that was a lousy 4-8 Iowa team that dropped its final six games of the year.  Penn State has looked like the most complete team in the conference, but a schedule that already looked fairly weak took another hit when Oklahoma State had their way with a Pitt defense in Heinz Field a week after the Nittany Lion offensive line struggled to block that same Panther front in Happy Valley.  Iowa has been far from perfect themselves.  A convincing win over what was supposed to be an upstart Wyoming team looks not so impressive now, they pulled out a miracle win over Iowa State, and trailed North Texas in the third quarter before scoring 21 unanswered points.  With Akrum Wadley a little dinged up, the Hawkeyes are going to need the Nathan Stanley they saw in Ames.  He completed 66% of his passes for 333 yards, 5 touchdowns and no picks.  In the Hawkeyes other two games he's completed only 57% of his passes, and averaging 161 ypg.  Penn State's offensive line is improving from the disaster it had been, but it still has a ways to go.  What Joe Moorhead has done is a better job of scheming around that deficiency, and McSorley has a knack for improvisation.  For all of the inconsistencies, the Nittany Lions have only allowed 2 sacks on the year.  Better than anyone in the conference other than Minnesota.  I think this one will come down to two things.  Penn State's ability to hit big plays.  They've relied on them already this year, and really going back to last year.  They aren't doing a great job sustaining drives.  They have the athletes to hit on those plays against Akron, Pitt and Georgia State.  They have a talent gap with Iowa, but it is obviously far narrower, and the Hawkeyes are doing as good a job as anyone in the country getting teams off the field.  The second factor is that Kinnick night crowd.
IOWA 27, PENN STATE 26

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Re: #4 Penn State (3-0) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2017, 07:10:43 PM »
While perhaps late October games against Michigan and Ohio State will settle the East, and determine Penn State's playoff fate, this game is plenty scary.  Last year in a night game at home the Hawkeyes upset #2 Michigan 14-13, in a defensive slugfest.  The Hawkeyes have won their last 4 night games in Kinnick, their last loss coming to Penn State back in 2012, and that was a lousy 4-8 Iowa team that dropped its final six games of the year.  Penn State has looked like the most complete team in the conference, but a schedule that already looked fairly weak took another hit when Oklahoma State had their way with a Pitt defense in Heinz Field a week after the Nittany Lion offensive line struggled to block that same Panther front in Happy Valley.  Iowa has been far from perfect themselves.  A convincing win over what was supposed to be an upstart Wyoming team looks not so impressive now, they pulled out a miracle win over Iowa State, and trailed North Texas in the third quarter before scoring 21 unanswered points.  With Akrum Wadley a little dinged up, the Hawkeyes are going to need the Nathan Stanley they saw in Ames.  He completed 66% of his passes for 333 yards, 5 touchdowns and no picks.  In the Hawkeyes other two games he's completed only 57% of his passes, and averaging 161 ypg.  Penn State's offensive line is improving from the disaster it had been, but it still has a ways to go.  What Joe Moorhead has done is a better job of scheming around that deficiency, and McSorley has a knack for improvisation.  For all of the inconsistencies, the Nittany Lions have only allowed 2 sacks on the year.  Better than anyone in the conference other than Minnesota.  I think this one will come down to two things.  Penn State's ability to hit big plays.  They've relied on them already this year, and really going back to last year.  They aren't doing a great job sustaining drives.  They have the athletes to hit on those plays against Akron, Pitt and Georgia State.  They have a talent gap with Iowa, but it is obviously far narrower, and the Hawkeyes are doing as good a job as anyone in the country getting teams off the field.  The second factor is that Kinnick night crowd.
IOWA 27, PENN STATE 26
I actually think your score is pretty accurate, but for different reasons.
1.  The Penn State D has not been dominate against the run.  There's pretty much 3 to 4 yards there on most plays.  This plays into Iowa's strength.
2.  The Penn State O looks to exploit mismatches, especially against linebackers.  Iowa's linebackers are pretty good. 
3.  I think an Iowa night game is probably worth at least a 14 point advantage.
4.  Iowa has had a few games to really get into the rhythm of the season.  Penn State has played some pretty bad teams.  I think Iowa jumps out to an early lead, thanks to their crowd and to their experience.  Then they keep the clock churning with long, sustained drives.  I think Penn State comes back, but it isn't enough.
I'm also thinking Iowa wins a close one.

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Re: #4 Penn State (3-0) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2017, 09:32:30 PM »
Penn State seems to be the B1G's OU this year.  Tough defense, and some explosiveness on offense.  If they get up 14-0 early thanks to a couple of big plays, that's all she wrote.  Iowa does not have the horses to dig itself out of a multi-score hole, especially against a team of the Nits' caliber.
Penn State started with a multi-score 5-point lead.

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Re: #4 Penn State (3-0) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2017, 02:26:19 PM »
What a game.  Iowa's defense played tough in the red zone.  I about had a stroke when Iowa went ahead with 1:42 to go.

Barkley may have at least cemented an invite to NY in December.

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Re: #4 Penn State (3-0) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2017, 04:54:20 PM »
Barkley should be the leading candidate for the Heisman. But the season is long, and it takes one injury to derail someone. He is indeed a big tough, quick, and fast man, and seemed to have some blocking to go with his running skills.

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Re: #4 Penn State (3-0) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2017, 05:17:13 PM »
Seems like it takes the total lack of a slightly viable QB for a RB to win it anymore.  And WRs might as well be NTs at this point.

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Re: #4 Penn State (3-0) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2017, 06:34:19 PM »
Seems like it takes the total lack of a slightly viable QB for a RB to win it anymore.  And WRs might as well be NTs at this point.
The RB has to just be flat out amazing to win it. Or play for an undefeated Alabama.
Barkley has been flat out amazing, so I think he'll be in it until the end.
WR has to do what Desmond Howard did to win it. You're not winning it as a WR unless you score 18-20 TD's as a WR and then return a couple punts and kicks for TD's and/or score on reverses/runs.

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Re: #4 Penn State (3-0) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2017, 09:34:11 PM »
Barkley should be the leading candidate for the Heisman. But the season is long, and it takes one injury to derail someone. He is indeed a big tough, quick, and fast man, and seemed to have some blocking to go with his running skills.
Unless there is a desire to give it someone else (or he gets injured), Jackson is still the best player in CFB. He's going to finish with 4000+ passing and well over 1000 rushing. 
Barkley also has large stretches during games where Franklin forgets about him and/or McSorley doesn't hand it off to him on the read option.
right now I'd say. 
1. Jackson
2. Barkley
3. Mayfield
4. Darnold
5. Josh Jackson

Dark horse is Gaskin. Washington could run the table again and he could have late push from having to play Utah, Wazzu and probably USC to finish up. I'd love to see James Washington get some heisman love too. Dude is amazing. 

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Re: #4 Penn State (3-0) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2017, 09:48:44 PM »
Unless there is a desire to give it someone else (or he gets injured), Jackson is still the best player in CFB. He's going to finish with 4000+ passing and well over 1000 rushing.
Barkley also has large stretches during games where Franklin forgets about him and/or McSorley doesn't hand it off to him on the read option.
right now I'd say.
1. Jackson
2. Barkley
3. Mayfield
4. Darnold
5. Josh Jackson

Dark horse is Gaskin. Washington could run the table again and he could have late push from having to play Utah, Wazzu and probably USC to finish up. I'd love to see James Washington get some heisman love too. Dude is amazing.
I think that beat down by Clemson at home is really going to hurt him. I have my doubts about Louisville as a team. They seem pretty void of talent outside of Jackson. It's almost like he has to be perfect and play like Superman or they lose. Padding stats against Kent State isn't going to get the voters attention. I don't think they are done losing. Boston College at home doesn't look like the gimme everyone thought it'd be, and they'll have to go on the road and face two tough defenses in NC State and Florida State.
I think if the voting was done today the top two would be Barkley and Mayfield. They've both had signature moments in prime-time nationally televised games playing on the road in hostile environments.

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Re: #4 Penn State (3-0) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2017, 10:10:59 PM »
I think that beat down by Clemson at home is really going to hurt him. I have my doubts about Louisville as a team. They seem pretty void of talent outside of Jackson. It's almost like he has to be perfect and play like Superman or they lose. Padding stats against Kent State isn't going to get the voters attention. I don't think they are done losing. Boston College at home doesn't look like the gimme everyone thought it'd be, and they'll have to go on the road and face two tough defenses in NC State and Florida State.
I think if the voting was done today the top two would be Barkley and Mayfield. They've both had signature moments in prime-time nationally televised games playing on the road in hostile environments.
I think his biggest obstacle is not slipping below last year's numbers. He's ahead of them efficiency-wide thus far, but that'd have to hold. Helping him is a slate where every game seems moderately winnable, with enough good defenses to bolster big stats if he has them.
Granted, voters like the new hotness, so someone who emerges likely passes him. 

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Re: #4 Penn State (3-0) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2017, 08:10:25 AM »
I'm a Barkley for Heisman believer.  
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Re: #4 Penn State (3-0) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2017, 08:26:43 AM »
Penn St will go as far as Barkley can take him, phenomenal game by the young man.

Iowa's defense was outstanding, it actually pushed the Penn St O-Line back on a number of occasions, but Barkley always wiggled out of it, they could never get him behind the line of scrimmage.

I honestly couldn't tell on that one long run on the left side of the field if his knee touched or not, Penn St did a good job of getting the next play in and I don't think replay caught it or not.

Penn St definitely has the grit of a BIG 10 champion, to make that final drive shows a lot of guts. I'm not sold that their overall offense is as good as last year, I think Barkley is probably better, but Mcsorely and the WR's still need some work, but we're only 1/3 of the way into the season. the nittany lion defense appears to be a much stingier unit than last year, although, they haven't played a real high flying attack yet. but to shut Iowa down most of the night was pretty impressive.

and while it's a tough loss for Iowa, they made me think they have a legit shot in the west. it's hard to see Wisconsin losing twice, but if Iowa could knock them off head to head and maybe Michigan tags them then Iowa still has a little bit of wiggle room.


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Re: #4 Penn State (3-0) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2017, 08:39:15 AM »
Penn State's luck is going to run out in close games like this sooner or later.
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