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Topic: 2024 Recruiting Thread

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Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #182 on: May 11, 2023, 08:37:37 AM »
It will be interesting to see how UNC does without that Longo offense.
Every time I tune them in they look weak in both lines, to me, even against ACC opponents.  They should play USCe each year I think.

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Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #183 on: May 11, 2023, 08:57:45 AM »
They led the ACC is rushing yards last year.
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Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #184 on: May 11, 2023, 09:00:16 AM »
They also lost to Georgia Tech, who also is very weak in both lines.

I don't watch UNC often, but that has been a consistent problem for them over years in my view.

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Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #185 on: May 11, 2023, 10:04:51 AM »
They led the ACC is rushing yards last year.
ain't that a bit like being the tallest midget in midget land? 

They might've also been able to lead the ACC in rushing because their passing game was so lethal. I doubt they saw very many stacked boxes gearing up to shut down the run. Not when Drake Maye is the QB. 

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Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #186 on: May 11, 2023, 10:15:45 AM »
Broadly speaking, the major difference in play between the B1G and SEC versus everyone else is line play.  Wisconsin consistently exceeds whatever recruiting ratings they have because of line play, it's no secret, they are a tough out in general.  Michigan has had very good lines of late and it shows (not enough against TCU somehow).  This is sort of the Saban/Smart technique, build your lines and recruit enough skill players that some one star JUCO transfer can be a good QB.

OU and Nebbie and Texas used to be like this, but they aren't now.  USC has awful DL play.  Oregon got smacked by UGA because of a porous line (duh).

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Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #187 on: May 11, 2023, 10:22:54 AM »
Broadly speaking, the major difference in play between the B1G and SEC versus everyone else is line play.  Wisconsin consistently exceeds whatever recruiting ratings they have because of line play, it's no secret, they are a tough out in general.  Michigan has had very good lines of late and it shows (not enough against TCU somehow).  This is sort of the Saban/Smart technique, build your lines and recruit enough skill players that some one star JUCO transfer can be a good QB.

OU and Nebbie and Texas used to be like this, but they aren't now.  USC has awful DL play.  Oregon got smacked by UGA because of a porous line (duh).
Michigan just crapped the bed, but not sure they lost it because of line play. They put up a bazillion yards of offense and scored 45 points and their actual defense gave up 37. JJ threw two pretty awful INT's right to defenders which both went for TD's. Not to mention they fumbled the ball at the 1 yard line about to score a TD after they got boned the play before on a terrible overturn of a long touchdown bomb. That's 7 off the board....so should've scored 52 pts on offense and if not for JJ throwing atrocious pick 6's it's 52-37. Shoulda, woulda, coulda. 

Don't think line play had anything to do with their loss. Just tried to get too cute plus a lot of comedy of errors on offense and some poor tackling on defense in some bad spots. That's my 2 cents anyway. They just kinda sh!t the bed. It happens. And that seems to happen a lot with Jeem in the post season at Michigan. His bowl record there is atrocious. Took him awhile to get that OSU monkey off his back, and right now he's got a post season monkey on his back. 

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Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #188 on: May 11, 2023, 10:30:56 AM »
My point is their line play was not enough against TCU somehow.

I wasn't blaming that for the loss obviously.  UGA shredded them.  When you demolish the lines on both sides, you win the game.  Vandy was a tougher opponent.

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Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #189 on: May 12, 2023, 02:26:12 PM »
My point is their line play was not enough against TCU somehow.

I wasn't blaming that for the loss obviously.  UGA shredded them.  When you demolish the lines on both sides, you win the game.  Vandy was a tougher opponent.
my guess here is TCU blew their entire wad on Michigan....and still barely escaped that game. Once they busted their nut vs Michigan....they were going to be slim pickens for OSU or UGA. No way they were pulling off two huge upsets in a row. They flat out just blew their load vs M and there was no way they were going to get it up again for UGA.

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Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #190 on: May 12, 2023, 02:32:11 PM »
I'd guess a highly motivated TCU still gets wasted by UGA or OSU.  Big people move smaller people.


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Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #191 on: May 12, 2023, 02:38:03 PM »
Michigan had bigger people

big enuff to move Ohio St.
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Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #192 on: May 12, 2023, 02:39:08 PM »
The were big but lacked SEC speed ...

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Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #193 on: May 12, 2023, 02:48:26 PM »
Looking at the Football Outsiders metrics, UNC OL was solid in passing downs, but was otherwise pretty bad.  Bottom half of FBS in every other metric

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Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #194 on: May 12, 2023, 07:53:00 PM »
3* LB/ATH Cole Sullivan (6'3, 200) of Pennsylvania commits to Michigan. Sullivan recently picked up offers from Notre Dame, Penn State, Wisconsin, Miami, and Michigan and is a guy that apparently Jeem was the driving force in going after. According to the "insiders" the Michigan staff views him as very similar player to Chase Winovich, who was one of Jeem's favorites. 

If this kid is even half of Chase Winovich, Jeem will have gotten himself a pretty good player. 

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Re: 2024 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #195 on: May 12, 2023, 07:57:49 PM »
Michigan had bigger people

big enuff to move Ohio St.
clearly obvious to me that Michigan has their focus on one thing now: Ohio State. As they should. That is the game that defines you there as a player, as a coach. 

I think Michigan quite frankly was just arrogant and didn't take TCU as seriously as they should have. It happens. They probably didn't think there was any way in hell TCU would beat them....til they did. 

 

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