2024 Michigan Offseason Thread

[Mdot21]

Michigan's challenge will be if they can develop an offense that can generate 20-28 points a game, control the clock and limit turnovers. Offensive line development and finding a big wide receiver target will play into that. The defense should be just fine. Maybe not quite as deep this coming season, but their front end starters will be elite.

Texas, Oregon, and Ohio will all be top 5ish teams. If they can steal one of those, they will be in position for a playoff bid. If not, it means running the table and hoping the B1G gets 4 - 5 invites to the dance. That would have happened this year with a 1 12 team playoff (Washington, Oregon, Michigan, Ohio, Penn State), albeit the conference wasn't together yet.

people expecting the demise of Michigan will probably wind up being greatly disappointed....

As long as they hire Sherrone Moore and keep most of that staff and roster intact, they'll be a really solid football team in 2024. Their defense will be one of the top 5 in the country. They'll have to rebuild depth at EDGE and ILB and replace Mike Sainistril at nickel, but they have high end talent all up and down that defense.

They have a nice stable of RB's with Donovan Edwards returning to helm it. They have maybe the best returning TE in the nation in Colston Loveland. Alex Orji is an incredible athlete. Can he play QB at a functional level? We're about to find out. They don't need him to be a Heisman caliber 1st rd draft pick or anything to win a bunch of games. Jalen Milroe is the model. If they can get like 15-20 Pass TD's and single digit INT's and have him rush for a handful of TD's- they'll be just fine. They don't need someone to be CJ Stroud or Bryce Young. That's not how they play. They'll run the ball and play-action on offense and then play stingy ass defense. And they'll win games doing that just like they have the last 3 years. They went to a playoff with freaking Cade McNamara as their QB in 2021 throwing 15 TD's to 6 INT's.

Rebuilding the OL will be primary concern #1. Sherrone Moore is the best OL coach in the game. So long as he is there, they'll always have above average OL's imo. They have had guys waiting in the wings like Giovanni El-Hadi and Andrew Gentry that would've already been starters if the OL wasn't so veteran, deep, and established already and the kid they brought in from the portal from Northwestern will factor into the mix as well at one of the guard spots.

[HailHailMSP]

The whataboutism with Day runs deep.

The fake machismo after the Notre Dame game directed at a 90 year old senial nursing home patient was where I realized Day was broken. If Freeman didn’t blow it with 10 players on D, the bucks lose that game too. Attacking Lou showed that the critics had gotten under Day’s skin. He doesn’t have the nails Urbz & Tress had. Love them or hate them, they were tough and their teams were tough. And they would have had zero awareness or acknowledgment of something obscure Lou Holtz  rambled about in a radio interview from his nursing home. 

Day couldn’t pull it off with Stroud, Olave, Wilson, JSN and Marv. We’ll see if a Dodgers level payroll jump will do the trick.

[Mdot21]

Michigan insider John U Bacon on the Harbaugh to LA transition.

says job is basically Moore's and that Jeem and AD Warde Manuel "positively hate each other." That's a quote.

Jeem has a tendency of hating his bosses and his bosses hating him: Stanford, 49ers, and now Michigan. The marriage in LA won't last 5 years imo. Only reason he lasted 9 years at Michigan was because of his ties to Michigan/Bo.

https://www.michiganpublic.org/sports/2024-01-26/bacon-harbaugh-delivered-on-his-promise

[medinabuckeye1]

And Ryan Day is 0 for his last 3, including an 0-1 record against the future HC. Zero B1G championships. All since he said he was going to "hang 100" on them. With the most exorbitant amount of resources and cash in college football. No buts or ifs, just facts.

How quickly you forget that your guys lost 15 of 16 prior to those last three.  Granted one of the 15 was subsequently vacated due to NCAA infractions but that really isn't something that helps your side.  

[medinabuckeye1]

yeah, I doubt those sanctions are coming. wish in one hand nubz and shit in the other, see what comes first.

LoL.  Dream on.  Your program got caught red handed and the NCAA is slow but it will not be swept under the rug.  

Michigan has the same amount of Natty's since 1969 as Ohio State does. Two. Congrats on your program being tied with it's All-Time daddy Nubbz.

You really want to play this game?  

Ok, Michigan has 3* straight wins.  Since all you Michigan guys are ignoring the fact that two of them will be vacated I'll ignore Ohio State's vacated win in 2010.  

Last 20 years (2004-2023):

• Ohio State 15-4

Last 50 years (1974-2023):

• Ohio State 26-22-1

Last 75 years (1949-2023):

• Ohio State 40-31-3

Last 100 years (1924-2023):

• Ohio State 49-46-4

Since you cheaters rejoined the league (after getting booted for cheating) (1918-2023):

• Ohio State 52-49-4

Since Ohio State joined the league (1913-2023):

• Ohio State 52-49-4

Way to Cherry pick with NC's since 1969, what happened in 1968 that you are trying to avoid?  

NC's since 1947:

• Ohio State 7, Michigan 2.5

[MaximumSam]

Seems like the biggest question for Moore will be hiring the coordinators - not sure there is a natural replacement on staff at either spot.

[MrNubbz]

yeah, I doubt those sanctions are coming. wish in one hand nubz and shit in the other, see what comes first.
Michigan has the same amount of Natty's since 1969 as Ohio State does. Two. Congrats on your program being tied with it's All-Time daddy Nubbz.

And No 1/2 doesn't count Those 'Skers would have waterborded Loyd's wolverines.Also everyone hides felony gun charges on team captains for 2 months until the season's over getting them to the CFB POs for the 1st time.LMAO doubt those sanctions are going to be coming? Because every body fires 3 coaches in one yr after stories break and every HC coach gets suspended twice in a season.And of course everybody asks for immunity clauses from penalties and the desperate program agrees to it,then he bolts anyway knowing the NCAA wasn't going to buy it. Sure - all sounds clean and above board.

And How did Stalions make $55,000 and buy a 475,000 home in Michigan 2 yrs ago. I'm decent enough in math but factoring land taxes,moving expenses,utilities,insurance,cars and furnishings.etc. i can't seem to make it fit.And this year after all this broke he is sent packing hmm seems odd for a guy who called a TO to instruct the defense vs Ohio St while Minter and Harbaugh looked on. All this comes down at the same time Wolverine Football happens to win it all. It's a miracle I tell you.

Harbaugh's Record
2015-2020:49-22 (69% win) 48% vs the spread
2021-2023: 33-3 (92% win) 72% vs the spread
Yet two time National Champion Georgia or the NFL couldn't stop CJ Stroud but Michigan somehow figured it all out?


https://youtu.be/NsgdZxjPtUk Look at Michigan's sideline - they knew the sign/play immediately. Don't try to tell anyone those knuckle dragging dummies figured that all out on their own.Stalions can be spotted right over CJs shoulder on the side line

[Mdot21]

Seems like the biggest question for Moore will be hiring the coordinators - not sure there is a natural replacement on staff at either spot.

agree with that for sure. Steve Clinkscale and Mike Elston are both elite positional coaches but none have real DC experience. Both are nearly 50 which kind of seems up there in age to become first time DC's to me. No spring chickens and definitely not young wunderkid DC's like Mike McDonald or Jesse Minter. Ideally Moore would want to hire someone well versed in that 3-4 Ravens style defense that this roster is built for and has been so successful running the last 3 seasons.

Kirk Campbell might be worth a shot at promoting to OC. I'm sure Moore will still be heavily involved in the OL/Run game aspect of things as that is his background. Campbell seems to be young, energetic, and a hell of a recruiter. Not sure he's ready for OC but would hate to lose him. Could definitely do worse than him as well. See: Brian Ferentz.

[Mdot21]

LoL.  Dream on.  Your program got caught red handed and the NCAA is slow but it will not be swept under the rug.  You really want to play this game? 

Ok, Michigan has 3* straight wins.  Since all you Michigan guys are ignoring the fact that two of them will be vacated I'll ignore Ohio State's vacated win in 2010. 

Last 20 years (2004-2023):

• Ohio State 15-4

Last 50 years (1974-2023):

• Ohio State 26-22-1

Last 75 years (1949-2023):

• Ohio State 40-31-3

Last 100 years (1924-2023):

• Ohio State 49-46-4

Since you cheaters rejoined the league (after getting booted for cheating) (1918-2023):

• Ohio State 52-49-4

Since Ohio State joined the league (1913-2023):

• Ohio State 52-49-4

Way to Cherry pick with NC's since 1969, what happened in 1968 that you are trying to avoid? 

NC's since 1947:

• Ohio State 7, Michigan 2.5

TL; DR 


https://twitter.com/MichiganClock/status/1750873747383333354?s=20

[Mdot21]

And No 1/2 doesn't count Those 'Skers would have waterborded Loyd's wolverines.Also everyone hides felony gun charges on team captains for 2 months until the season's over getting them to the CFB POs for the 1st time.LMAO doubt those sanctions are going to be coming? Because every body fires 3 coaches in one yr after stories break and every HC coach gets suspended twice in a season.And of course everybody asks for immunity clauses from penalties and the desperate program agrees to it,then he bolts anyway knowing the NCAA wasn't going to buy it. Sure - all sounds clean and above board.

And How did Stalions make $55,000 and buy a 475,000 home in Michigan 2 yrs ago. I'm decent enough in math but factoring land taxes,moving expenses,utilities,insurance,cars and furnishings.etc. i can't seem to make it fit.And this year after all this broke he is sent packing hmm seems odd for a guy who called a TO to instruct the defense vs Ohio St while Minter and Harbaugh looked on. All this comes down at the same time Wolverine Football happens to win it all. It's a miracle I tell you.

Harbaugh's Record
2015-2020:49-22 (69% win) 48% vs the spread
2021-2023: 33-3 (92% win) 72% vs the spread
Yet two time National Champion Georgia or the NFL couldn't stop CJ Stroud but Michigan somehow figured it all out?


https://youtu.be/NsgdZxjPtUk Look at Michigan's sideline - they knew the sign/play immediately. Don't try to tell anyone those knuckle dragging dummies figured that all out on their own.Stalions can be spotted right over CJs shoulder on the side line

TL; DR


https://twitter.com/MichiganClock/status/1750873747383333354?s=20

[Honestbuckeye]

They should be solid next season.   

Great O-line coach(Moore) and a wicked good defense.  

[MrNubbz]

TL; DR

Does that include 2020 with steel in his spine Head Wound Harbaugh chickened out? Before beating ass out of town in front of the posse 

[Mdot21]

They should be solid next season. 

Great O-line coach(Moore) and a wicked good defense. 

I think so as well. Edwards returning is a big deal for their offense as well. He's an explosive playmaker. Excited to see him get more volume and work as THE GUY at RB now that Corum is gone. So long as Moore is promoted to HC they shouldn't bleed out in the portal like Bama, and Moore will rebuild a solid OL. He's a former OL and one of the best OL coaches there is in the sport. Replacing the QB is going to be a big question obviously. They don't need a star at QB. They just need someone not to fk it up and turn it over a lot. And it would be a plus if that someone was Orji who had the juice to make a big run or two a game with his legs.

They'll fall back down to earth a little bit obviously. They are not going 15-0 and winning a Natty again......but they also aren't going to fall off the map and go 6-6 or sub .500 or anything like that. 

[Mdot21]

Michigan 247 site reporting it's official. Michigan got the waiver and Sherrone Moore is officially named the next head coach at Michigan. Makes history as the first black head coach at the University of Michigan. Believe he's also only 38 years old. Have a feeling he's going to crush it on the 'crootin' trail much better than Jeem ever did.