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Topic: 2024-2025 B1G Basketball Thread

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ELA

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Re: 2024-2025 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #644 on: January 19, 2025, 12:46:17 PM »
I was listening to some podcast, maybe Field of 68, and they pointed out what makes it so interesting, is also why they think it's a top 4.

Illinois has the most NBA talent in the Big Ten
MSU has the most depth in the Big Ten
Purdue has the best backcourt in the Big Ten
Michigan has the best frontcourt in the Big Ten

Oregon doesn't have any of that.  Road losses happen.  Yeah, it sucks that it was Minnesota.  MSU had a Big Ten championship one year where they lost to both Northwestern and Penn State, the two worst teams in the league.  Crowds are tough, and you typically get a bad whistle.  I actually get more frustrated when MSU doesn't get a good whistle at home than when they get a bad whistle on the road.

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Re: 2024-2025 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #645 on: January 19, 2025, 01:00:23 PM »
That’s really interesting breakdown and probably spot on. Although it may be my overreaction, there’s just something about this UM team that mentally they fall apart a little when games are close in the second half. They get sloppy and make big mistakes. As much as I like Wolf, he goes into a mode where he stops playing team ball and goes into isolation one-on-one mode. In some cases it will work, but I think their strength is their team game and plays using both big men. 

Now, all that being said, the loss to the Gophers weighed heavily on Goldin missing free throws and a couple mistakes and not Wolf at all, so maybe my eyes see one thing and my brain points blame to areas not to blame. Who knows. There’s just something in my gut that says this team doesn’t have the closing killer instinct. The true test will be hitting Purdue twice and Oregon and MSU shortly after. I just see MSU, Illinois and Purdue and those are the conference teams I think have the best shot at a deep run.

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Re: 2024-2025 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #646 on: January 19, 2025, 02:25:35 PM »
Well, still think Illinois is the best team in the conference.  MSU got a pretty big home court whistle there.  Thought it was over up 7, but Illinois made it tough

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Re: 2024-2025 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #647 on: January 19, 2025, 04:29:49 PM »
Well, still think Illinois is the best team in the conference.  MSU got a pretty big home court whistle there.  Thought it was over up 7, but Illinois made it tough
College basketball may be the most easily official influenced sport. It’s at the point where it’s borderline unwatchable at times. This Michigan Northwestern game is absurd. 

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Re: 2024-2025 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #648 on: January 21, 2025, 10:38:39 AM »
Putting together my first SOR/KenPom bracket of the year.  Will try to update weekly going forward.  For now, assuming the team with the best SOR wins the regular season (until February, when I'll go to whoever is actually in 1st place), and best KenPom wins conference tourney

NCAA TOURNAMENT
SOUTH

  • #1 Auburn vs. #16 Bryant/Little Rock
  • #8 Arizona vs. #9 Connecticut
  • #5 Texas A&M vs. #12 Samford
  • #4 WISCONSIN vs. #13 McNeese
  • #3 Ole Miss vs. #14 High Point
  • #6 Memphis vs. #11 INDIANA/Wake Forest
  • #7 Texas Tech vs. #10 SMU
  • #2 Marquette vs. #15 Norfolk State


EAST

  • #1 Duke vs. #16 Quinnipiac/Colgate
  • #8 Creighton vs. #9 Vanderbilt
  • #5 ILLINOIS vs. #12 Liberty
  • #4 Kentucky vs. #13 Charleston
  • #3 PURDUE vs. #14 Yale
  • #6 West Virginia vs. #11 Pittsburgh/Texas
  • #7 Clemson vs. #10 UCLA
  • #2 Florida vs. #15 Fort Wayne


MIDWEST

  • #1 Iowa State vs. #16 Central Connecticut
  • #8 Oklahoma vs. #9 MARYLAND
  • #5 St. John's vs. #12 Drake
  • #4 Mississippi State vs. #13 Charleston
  • #3 Kansas vs. #14 Akron
  • #6 MICHIGAN vs. #11 UC Irvine
  • #7 Utah State vs. #10 North Carolina
  • #2 Tennessee vs. #15 North Dakota State


WEST

  • #1 Alabama vs. #16 Southern
  • #8 Baylor vs. #9 Saint Mary's
  • #5 Missouri vs. #12 VCU
  • #4 OREGON vs. #13 Grand Canyon
  • #3 Houston vs. #14 Lipscomb
  • #6 Louisville vs. #11 San Diego State
  • #7 Georgia vs. #10 Gonzaga
  • #2 MICHIGAN STATE vs. #15 Northern Colorado


NIT
ORLANDO

  • #1 Central Florida vs. #8 American
  • #4 Bradley vs. #5 Villanova
  • #3 Florida State vs. #6 Princeton
  • #2 OHIO STATE vs. #7 Miami(Ohio)


CINCINNATI

  • #1 Cincinnati vs. #8 Morehead State
  • #4 LSU vs. #5 Dayton
  • #3 North Texas vs. #6 Georgetown
  • #2 IOWA vs. #7 St. Thomas


ALBUQUERQUE

  • #1 New Mexico vs. #8 UM Lowell
  • #4 PENN STATE vs. #5 TCU
  • #3 NORTHWESTERN vs. #6 San Francisco
  • #2 Arizona State vs. #7 UTEP


LINCOLN

  • #1 NEBRASKA vs. #8 Marist
  • #4 BYU vs. #5 Washington State
  • #3 Arkansas vs. #6 Utah
  • #2 Xavier vs. #7 Radford


All Big Ten Teams

  • Michigan State - #2 seed
  • Purdue - #3 seed
  • Oregon - #4 seed
  • Wisconsin - #4 seed
  • Illinois - #5 seed
  • Michigan - #6 seed
  • Maryland - #9 seed
  • UCLA - #10 seed
  • Indiana - #11 seed (Play-In)
  • Nebraska - NIT #1 seed
  • Iowa - NIT #2 seed
  • Ohio State - NIT #2 seed
  • Northwestern - NIT #3 seed
  • Penn State - NIT #4 seed
  • USC - #4 team out of NIT
  • Rutgers - #8 team out of NIT
  • Washington - #14 team out of NIT
  • Minnesota - :03:

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Re: 2024-2025 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #649 on: January 21, 2025, 11:33:43 AM »
Massey Composite Rankings - 51 computers (last week in parentheses)

  • Auburn (1)
  • Duke (2)
  • Alabama (4)
  • Iowa State (3)
  • Tennessee (6)
  • Florida (5)
  • Houston (7)
  • PURDUE (11)
  • MICHIGAN STATE (12)
  • Kansas (8)
  • Kentucky (14)
  • ILLINOIS (15)
  • Marquette (9)
  • Ole Miss (19)
  • Mississippi State (18)
  • MICHIGAN (10)
  • WISCONSIN (20)
  • Texas A&M (16)
  • OREGON (17)
  • St. John's (23)
  • Arizona (21)
  • Texas Tech (-)
  • Missouri (-)
  • Gonzaga (13)
  • Louisville (-)



  • 30. Maryland (28)
  • 39. UCLA (37)
  • 43. Ohio State (40)
  • 46. Nebraska (39)
  • 48. Indiana (43)
  • 50. Iowa (35)
  • 52. Penn State (50)
  • 56. Northwestern (58)
  • 68. USC (69)
  • 78. Rutgers (87)
  • 93. Washington (89)
  • 103. Minnesota (121)

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Re: 2024-2025 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #650 on: January 21, 2025, 02:42:38 PM »
Tonight’s UW game should be interesting. 

Good offense vs good defense. UCLA had a rocky stretch but then just smashed Iowa. Very intrigued. 

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Re: 2024-2025 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #651 on: January 21, 2025, 03:33:12 PM »
This Friday's Michigan @ Purdue is going to set my expectations of optimism level for the remainder of the season. It's a road game for the Wolverines, so that's a pretty significant hurdle in conference play, but it will help determine if this team is decent enough to keep it close. Something was off with Danny Wolf for the Northwestern matchup. It wasn't just the poor shooting. He legit looked off, like pale, slow and not himself.. weirdly, he played 40 minutes but something wasn't right. Hopefully he's 100% on Friday. 

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Re: 2024-2025 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #652 on: January 21, 2025, 04:56:46 PM »
Tonight’s UW game should be interesting.

Good offense vs good defense. UCLA had a rocky stretch but then just smashed Iowa. Very intrigued.
9:30 start sucks. Not gonna see much of this one, if any.
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Re: 2024-2025 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #653 on: January 21, 2025, 05:19:32 PM »
9:30 start sucks. Not gonna see much of this one, if any.
I’m definitely not seeing that timing in a positive light. Often that can be nice because I can do something social, and then we’ll back around to catch a late game.

but I don’t have anything exactly lined up to do this evening, and it would not fit cleanly with seeing my girlfriend tonight.

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Re: 2024-2025 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #654 on: January 21, 2025, 05:35:23 PM »
9:30 start sucks. Not gonna see much of this one, if any.
you'd think they'd learn

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Re: 2024-2025 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #655 on: January 21, 2025, 08:31:14 PM »
Well the football season is over, unfortunately. Time to pivot, and see if the basketball team is any good this year. Let's see how they look against the big bad Boilermakers... 



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Re: 2024-2025 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #656 on: January 21, 2025, 09:07:12 PM »
Looking a lot better in the second half, so far. 

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Re: 2024-2025 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #657 on: January 22, 2025, 09:11:31 AM »
Road losses happen.  Yeah, it sucks that it was Minnesota.  MSU had a Big Ten championship one year where they lost to both Northwestern and Penn State, the two worst teams in the league.  Crowds are tough, and you typically get a bad whistle.  I actually get more frustrated when MSU doesn't get a good whistle at home than when they get a bad whistle on the road.
Now, losing at home to Minnesota is cause for concern

 

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