2024-2025 B1G Basketball Thread

[grillrat]

Ballo was given a flagrant 2 ejection with about 2 min left in the game.  Question is, will the Big Ten extend it and suspend him for the OSU game.  If he is out for that game, I gotta imagine OSU wins.  

Their next seven games are:
@OSU
@NW
Maryland
@Purdue
@Wisc
Michigan
@MSU

I can't imagine them being better than 2-5 in that stretch.  If they are not only losses but complete blowouts (which recent history suggests is certainly possible), I'm thinking the odds of Woodson even surviving till season's end are 50/50.

[847badgerfan]

Probably time to do tiers?

What say you @medinabuckeye1 ?

[LetsGoPeay]

Ballo was given a flagrant 2 ejection with about 2 min left in the game.  Question is, will the Big Ten extend it and suspend him for the OSU game.  If he is out for that game, I gotta imagine OSU wins. 

Their next seven games are:
@OSU
@NW
Maryland
@Purdue
@Wisc
Michigan
@MSU

I can't imagine them being better than 2-5 in that stretch.  If they are not only losses but complete blowouts (which recent history suggests is certainly possible), I'm thinking the odds of Woodson even surviving till season's end are 50/50.

The problem with that for those of us who want Woodson gone is that the team might actually be better without Ballo. He gives zero effort on defense. His 14 and 10 can be redistributed and there would likely be an improvement on defense.

Woodson was a confounding hire from the start. He's never been a "good coach". He's the poster child for bad "coaching trees" hires. I'm scared to see who they'll hire to replace him next year. Who are the realistic candidates? I doubt any quality coach will want to leave their current position for IU.

[ELA]

Probably time to do tiers?

What say you @medinabuckeye1 ?

I thought he already did them?  Looking at KenPom, it kind of looks like...

• 1 - Illinois, Michigan, Purdue, MSU
• 2 - Wisconsin, Maryland, Oregon
• 3 - OSU, UCLA, Nebraska
• 4 - Iowa, PSU
• 5 - Northwestern, Indiana, USC
• 6 - Rutgers, Washington
• 7 - Minnesota

[847badgerfan]

I must have missed them.

[bayareabadger]

I think Gard is a "good" coach. I don't think he's a great coach. I'm not a huge basketball follower, so maybe I'm missing something, but my impression is that consistency isn't his thing. His teams are like a box of chocolates.

I’d call him very good. Great is a small group, but UW has no great right to basketball success, and he’s been pretty good. 

I don’t think they’re Bo consistent, but that bar is bonkers high. I’d call him modestly consistent, give or take some of the challenges of a more mid-level program in the modern landscape. 

[SuperMario]

I thought he already did them?  Looking at KenPom, it kind of looks like...

• 1 - Illinois, Purdue, MSU
• 2 - Wisconsin, Maryland, Oregon, Michigan
• 3 - OSU, UCLA, Nebraska
• 4 - Iowa, PSU
• 5 - Northwestern, Indiana, USC
• 6 - Rutgers, Washington
• 7 - Minnesota

I really think Michigan should still be in tier 2. If any other team should be tier 1, i'd say Oregon, although their UCLA loss is still a ? and Illinois smoked them. Will be interesting to see how the Purdue v Oregon matchup looks Saturday.

[boilerbanger]

Because of the altercation near the end of the IU / Illinois game, Underwood and Woodson decided to not do the handshake line with the teams.  The 2 coaches shook hands and pointed their players back to the locker room.  Pitino started this trend, not sure I like it, but I am old school and think sportsmanship should still exist.  You don't want to get your ass handed to you, then play harder.

[ELA]

I really think Michigan should still be in tier 2. If any other team should be tier 1, i'd say Oregon, although their UCLA loss is still a ? and Illinois smoked them. Will be interesting to see how the Purdue v Oregon matchup looks Saturday.

Michigan is above Purdue, MSU and Oregon in KenPom, which is predictive.  Here is where I drew the lines

• 9. Illinois
• 11. Michigan
• 12. Purdue
• 14. Michigan State

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• 21. Wisconsin
• 24. Maryland
• 25. Oregon

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• 32. Ohio State
• 37. UCLA
• 41. Nebraska

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• 47. Iowa
• 51. Penn State

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• 56. Northwestern
• 58. Indiana
• 63. USC

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• 84. Rutgers
• 93. Washington

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• 106. Minnesota

[ELA]

I’d call him very good. Great is a small group, but UW has no great right to basketball success, and he’s been pretty good.

I mean it's been 30 years now, I'd say they can expect it

[bayareabadger]

I mean it's been 30 years now, I'd say they can expect it

I’d argue that’s work every year, every offseason. It’s 30 years because of pretty good to great coaching. 

[ELA]

I’d argue that’s work every year, every offseason. It’s 30 years because of pretty good to great coaching.

But multiple coaches.  I'd say MSU has WAY less right to expect it, because they've had the same coach the whole time.  So is it MSU, or is it just Izzo?

[847badgerfan]

For Wisconsin, it's Stu Jackson, Dick Bennett, Bo Ryan and Greg Gard.

Also, a ton of credit to Donna Shalala and Pat Richter for changing the athletic culture in Madison.

[ELA]

For Wisconsin, it's Stu Jackson, Dick Bennett, Bo Ryan and Greg Gard.

Also, a ton of credit to Donna Shalala and Pat Richter for changing the athletic culture in Madison.

Yeah, crushing it on that many consecutive coaching hires makes me think it's the program.  Even SVG wasn't bad, he just wasn't a college coach