2024-2025 B1G Basketball Thread

[MaximumSam]

Seton Hall and Rutgers were tied with 6 seconds left and somehow Seton Hall lets Dylan Harper just dribble up the court and shoot an open three to win. I have no idea what his defender was doing

[SuperMario]

How in the world is Arkansas not ranked? They just beat #14 ranked Michigan. Better record than Michigan at 9-2 and only losses against Baylor & Illinois. I guess maybe to keep Michigan ranked for better draw to the Michigan Oklahoma game this week? Odd.

[ELA]

How in the world is Arkansas not ranked? They just beat #14 ranked Michigan. Better record than Michigan at 9-2 and only losses against Baylor & Illinois. I guess maybe to keep Michigan ranked for better draw to the Michigan Oklahoma game this week? Odd.

Michigan is their only decent win.  KenPom has them #40, and Michigan still #22

[SuperMario]

Michigan is their only decent win.  KenPom has them #40, and Michigan still #22

Michigan State's only decent win is 4 loss North Carolina, but i also get your point. I just think this early in the season, the top 25 teams that are borderline, if one beats the other, the winning team should probably be ahead of the losing team.

We'll find out when Arkansas has to play Tennessee, Old MIss and Florida in a 1 week period 

[ELA]

Michigan State's only decent win is 4 loss North Carolina, but i also get your point. I just think this early in the season, the top 25 teams that are borderline, if one beats the other, the winning team should probably be ahead of the losing team.

We'll find out when Arkansas has to play Tennessee, Old MIss and Florida in a 1 week period

KenPom has MSU #17, actually higher than they are in the polls

I just don't think Arkansas is borderline, Michigan is clearly better, Arkansas just won that game

[SuperMario]

KenPom has MSU #17, actually higher than they are in the polls

I just don't think Arkansas is borderline, Michigan is clearly better, Arkansas just won that game

Bball is definitely a topic I'll defer to your knowledge basically every time lol. 

[ELA]

Michigan can run a pretty unstoppable 2 man game with their 4-5.  I don't love their guards, and I think teams will have hot nights where they shoot them out of the arena.  But having two bigs, including a true 5, like that, when most teams don't anymore, is going to cause a lot of problems.

Cal is just going to keep rolling the ball out, and hoping to out talent you, and often enough, he does.  But on the whole, Arkansas will lack any sort of consistency, IMO

[ELA]

Massey Composite Rankings - 43 computers (last week in parentheses)

• Auburn (1)
• Tennessee (2)
• Iowa State (7)
• Florida (8)
• Alabama (9)
• Kentucky (5)
• Duke (6)
• Gonzaga (3)
• Marquette (4)
• Kansas (11)
• OREGON (12)
• Texas A&M (19)
• UCLA (18)
• Houston (13)
• Connecticut (-)
• MICHIGAN STATE (16)
• PURDUE (10)
• Pittsburgh (22)
• Mississippi State (15)
• Memphis (-)
• Utah State (21)
• ILLINOIS (20)
• Clemson (14)
• Baylor (-)
• Ole Miss (25)

• 27. Michigan (17)
• 30. Maryland (24)
• 31. Wisconsin (30)
• 34. Penn State (23)
• 45. Nebraska (55)
• 48. Iowa (43)
• 50. Ohio State (40)
• 53. Indiana (41)
• 60. Northwestern (59)
• 75. Rutgers (89)
• 89. USC (93)
• 98. Washington (96)
• 126. Minnesota (120)

[ELA]

Also, not sure the tier projections hold anymore, because I don't think home court holds the same sway it did even 10 years ago, and nobody knows what the cross country road games are going to mean.

Based off KenPom, it would be...

• 1 - Illinois, Oregon, Michigan, Purdue, UCLA, Maryland
• 2 - OSU, MSU, PSU, Wisconsin
• 3 - Nebraska, Indiana, Iowa
• 4 - Northwestern, Rutgers, Washington
• 5 - USC, Minnesota

We even had 6 through last year, so my inclination is to at least have 7, so here is what my edits would be in splitting them out to get to 7.  I combined what I think is the bottom of 1 and the top of 2, as the new 2, and left the remaining 2s in 3, which bumps everyone else down.  So then I combined the bottom of 4 (now 5) and top of 5 (now 6) into the new 6, leaving Minnesota in 7

• 1 - Illinois, Oregon
• 2 - Michigan, Purdue, Maryland, MSU, Wisconsin
• 3 - OSU, PSU
• 4 - Nebraska, Indiana, Iowa
• 5 - Rutgers, Washington
• 6 - Northwestern, USC
• 7 - Minnesota

Taking another look here top 7 are all between #13 and #23, so...

• 1 - UCLA, Illinois, MSU, Oregon, Maryland, Purdue, Michigan
• 2 - PSU, Wisconsin, OSU
• 3 - Iowa
• 4 - Indiana, Nebraska, NW
• 5 - Rutgers, USC, Washington, Minnesota

So, once again, to get it to 7, I'll split the top, and bottom.  Top is so tight, I'd use composite, bottom is identical, so...

• 1 - UCLA, Illinois, MSU, Oregon, Purdue
• 2 - Maryland, Michigan
• 3 - PSU, Wisconsin, OSU
• 4 - Iowa
• 5 - Indiana, Nebraska, NW
• 6 - Rutgers, USC
• 7 - Washington, Minnesota

[ELA]

Glad Izzo keeps rewarding his friend Greg Kampe with this annual game thats about as fun as a dental checkup.  But they both wear Christmas sweaters, so its fun

[SuperMario]

Michigan folded again late in the game and had a run of bad decision making again but that foul on the 4 point play at the end was completely absurd and why college basketball is tough to stay attached to. Beyond garbage call and possibly even worse acting job on the foul.

[bayareabadger]

Michigan can run a pretty unstoppable 2 man game with their 4-5.  I don't love their guards, and I think teams will have hot nights where they shoot them out of the arena.  But having two bigs, including a true 5, like that, when most teams don't anymore, is going to cause a lot of problems.

Cal is just going to keep rolling the ball out, and hoping to out talent you, and often enough, he does.  But on the whole, Arkansas will lack any sort of consistency, IMO

That 4 for Michigan is insanely good at a couple of things that don’t necessarily make him a bombastic player, but make him really helpful and additive to winning.

[ELA]

Michigan folded again late in the game and had a run of bad decision making again but that foul on the 4 point play at the end was completely absurd and why college basketball is tough to stay attached to. Beyond garbage call and possibly even worse acting job on the foul.

Yeah, live I thought it was the "didn't allow him to land" call.  Replay, it was just a bad call.

I am glad that once Fears decided he didn't want to play his brother, and wanted his own space, that he flipped from Illinois to Oklahoma.  Want no part of that kid being a conference foe

[MaximumSam]

I dunno I thought Gayle pretty clearly fouled him. Which...I wish Gayle was still here but he does dumb stuff like that on a regular basis.