2023 NFL Thread

[ELA]

Definitely an argument for the worst two franchises. And sadly, that was the NFC team I rooted for as a kid because of Barry.. I'm a Cleveland sports guy, but I still always followed the Lions and the Red Wings.

Heh, the Indians were my team growing up, because Kenny Lofton was my favorite player, and the Tigers sucked for the entire 90s.  Plus my dad's primary client was located in Cleveland, so he frequently had business trips to Cleveland.  My room growing up was mostly UM football and Indians baseball gear.  Every time he went to Cleveland, I got some Indians souvenir.  

[MrNubbz]

I'm still waiting for my World Series Champion swag

[GopherRock]

This would be painful.

The Browns have famously never been to the SuperBowl but they've been to, and lost three  AFC Championship Games.

These memories are permanently imprinted on Cleveland fans' minds to the extent that two are known by simply two words each:

• The Drive
• The Fumble

Since their last Super Bowl, the Vikings have been in 6 NFC Championship Games and lost them all in 7th-circle-of-Hell losses that made one nauseous and question why they follow professional football.

[SuperMario]

Heh, the Indians were my team growing up, because Kenny Lofton was my favorite player, and the Tigers sucked for the entire 90s.  Plus my dad's primary client was located in Cleveland, so he frequently had business trips to Cleveland.  My room growing up was mostly UM football and Indians baseball gear.  Every time he went to Cleveland, I got some Indians souvenir. 

wow.. that's awesome.. I bet our rooms were very similar. Although I had some Bo Jackson and David Robinson stuff hanging too.

[ELA]

wow.. that's awesome.. I bet our rooms were very similar. Although I had some Bo Jackson and David Robinson stuff hanging too.

No shame there.  Showed my oldest plenty of Bo Jackson YouTube highlights, and the other day he asked if anyone ever got a quadruple-double.  I told him the story of listening to David Robinson's on the radio.  The local sports station just became Westwood One syndicated at night, and they went to the Spurs broadcast for the whole 4th quarter.

[MrNubbz]

lost them all in 7th-circle-of-Hell losses that made one nauseous and question why they follow professional football.

you sure you're not a closet BROWNS Fan?

[medinabuckeye1]

They are #2.  But they have had success.  Lions have literally won 1 playoff game in like 70 years

in that timeline, sure, I'm with you. In the last 30 years, the Browns also have 1. This playoff will be the Lions 5th year making the playoffs this millennium and only the Browns 3rd.  Now if you want to take the stance that it's actually worse to make it more and keep losing lol, I can certainly entertain that. Both teams have had 0-16 seasons.

Definitely an argument for the worst two franchises. And sadly, that was the NFC team I rooted for as a kid because of Barry.. I'm a Cleveland sports guy, but I still always followed the Lions and the Red Wings.

I was curious so I googled some things:
In the eight years from 1950-1957 the Browns (50, 54, 55) and Lions (52, 53, 57) won six NFL Championships. They only won one prior (Detroit in 1935) and one since (Cleveland in 1964).

Of course Cleveland and Detroit were more populous back in the 1950's and MUCH more populous as a percentage on the national population. In the 1950 census Detroit and Cleveland were the 5th and 7th most populous cities in the country with just under 2M and just under 1M people respectively. Ohio and Michigan were also the 5th and 7th most populous states with 7.9 and 6.4 million people respectively. As of the 2020 census the ruins of Detroit are 29th with 620k while the ruins of Cleveland are 54th with 362k. Ohio was 7th with 11.8M while Michigan was 10th with 10.1M.

Cleveland and Detroit share the distinction of never making the SuperBowl with the Jacksonville Jaguars and the Houston Texans but they were both expansion teams so they've had a lot less chances.

The SuperBowl started with the 1966 season.
Browns Playoff appearances of the SuperBowl era:

• 1967 0-1 lost Eastern Conference Championship
• 1968 1-1 lost NFL Championship Game
• 1969 1-1 lost NFL Championship Game
• 1971 0-1 lost divisional game
• 1972 0-1 lost divisional game
• 1980 0-1 lost divisional game
• 1982 0-1 lost divisional game
• 1985 0-1 lost divisional game
• 1986 1-1 lost AFC Championship Game
• 1987 1-1 lost AFC Championship Game
• 1988 0-1 lost wildcard game
• 1989  1-1 lost AFC Championship Game
• 1994 1-1 lost divisional game
• 2002 0-1 lost wildcard game
• 2020 1-1 lost divisional game
• 2023

Lions Playoff appearances of the SuperBowl era:

• 1970 0-1 lost divisional game
• 1982 0-1 lost divisional game
• 1983 0-1 lost divisional game
• 1991 1-1 lost NFC Championship Game
• 1993 0-1 lost wildcard game
• 1994 0-1 lost wildcard game
• 1995 0-1 lost wildcard game
• 1997 0-1 lost wildcard game
• 1999 0-1 lost wildcard game
• 2011 0-1 lost wildcard game
• 2014 0-1 lost wildcard game
• 2016 0-1 lost wildcard game
• 2023

Note that 2023 is the first season that both made the playoffs since 1994. @ELA has a point in that Detroit has less playoff appearances and less playoff success in the SuperBowl era but @SuperMario has a point in that 2023 is only Cleveland's third playoff appearance in the last 29 years (1995-2023) while it is Detroit's seventh.

[SuperMario]

No shame there.  Showed my oldest plenty of Bo Jackson YouTube highlights, and the other day he asked if anyone ever got a quadruple-double.  I told him the story of listening to David Robinson's on the radio.  The local sports station just became Westwood One syndicated at night, and they went to the Spurs broadcast for the whole 4th quarter.

I was a diehard Cleveland sports fan, but there's just some athletes you can't ignore and just love. I also loved the personalities of Bo & David. I'm drawn to good humans. Also drawn to Barry and I hate to say this, but even as an M fan, Eddie George was a guy I was blown away by. 

I'll happily admit that Robinson's first championship, I shed tears as a 19 year old. My first puppy, an English Bulldog was named Jackson.. he passed last year and I was lucky to have another join the family.. he is named Robinson. 

The memory I still see most vividly is Bo's first at bat back after the hip injury. It was a school night and it was bedtime, but my dad ran upstairs to come get me for his at bat. Still can't believe that injury. We lost many years of jaw dropping plays because of it. 

[Mdot21]

Belichik stepping down in New England. Crazy…literally the day after his BFF Saban steps down from Bama. Kinda weird. 

Plot twist…they are actually gay lovers and deciding to both retire at the same time and come out of the closet now and travel the world together so they can vlog it on TikTok.

[FearlessF]

Multiple Super Wild Card Weekend matchups will be affected due to weather, and now, one game has been postponed because of it. According to CBS Sports NFL Lead Insider Jonathan Jones, New York governor Kathy Hochul announced Saturday that the Pittsburgh Steelers at Buffalo Bills playoff matchup will be moved from 1 p.m. ET on Sunday, to 4:30 p.m. Monday.

According to Weather.com, Buffalo is under a winter storm warning from 10 a.m. Saturday until 7 a.m. Monday morning. Heavy lake effect snow and strong winds are expected this weekend, while snow accumulations in the area could range from 1 to 3 feet. The Bills even previously asked for help to shovel snow in Highmark Stadium.

[MrNubbz]

Stroud threw a perfect strike and dropped,smdh.I can see in the cold of Cleveland but the controled climate here - c'mon

[MaximumSam]

Stroud is great

[MrNubbz]

Collins TD 10-7 Ne'er do wells

[MrNubbz]

Damn shootout in Houston,ffs take the lead - give it back,take the lead - give it back