2023 NFL Thread

[MrNubbz]

Seeing how damn good Stroud is what makes me think Ryan Day ain't it.

Well he spotted CJ who just threw another TD

[Honestbuckeye]

Well he spotted CJ who just threw another TD

Yeah.  Kind of a weird take by ELA.  

Recruited the kid, developed him and took him within a whisker of the NC, without a defense, a TE, a RB, and the best Wr in CFB.  

[ELA]

Exactly.  He's most likely never going to have a better QB, and he couldn't even reach a Big Ten title game with him

[MrNubbz]

DAY can't seem to spot talent in the trenches though.IMO he needs to be proactive in game decisions,DAY seemingly comes to conclusions after the fact

[Honestbuckeye]

Exactly.  He's most likely never going to have a better QB, and he couldn't even reach a Big Ten title game with him

You can reach the Big Ten Championship with a defense and a serviceable offense.  

Just ask Dantonio.  

But you have to have a reliable defense.  

[Honestbuckeye]

Exactly.  He's most likely never going to have a better QB, and he couldn't even reach a Big Ten title game with him

And yet came within a missed FG of going to the NC after hanging, 41 points on the best defense in college football.   And without their starting end, first, second and third string running backs, and with their best receiver out for the fourth quarter.

[ELA]

You can reach the Big Ten Championship with a defense and a serviceable offense. 

Just ask Dantonio. 

But you have to have a reliable defense. 

I mean if OSUs goal is to be MSUs ceiling, sure

[Honestbuckeye]

I mean if OSUs goal is to be MSUs ceiling, sure

I just don’t get the jab at the coach.  

Who are the best 5 QBs in the NFL?

How many of them won CGs, NCs or made the playoffs while in college?

[MrNubbz]

I mean if OSUs goal is to be MSUs ceiling, sure

I'm sure Day would take Dantonio's record vs UMAA

[MrNubbz]

Meanwhile Stroud is putting together a nice drive

[ELA]

I just don’t get the jab at the coach. 

Who are the best 5 QBs in the NFL?

How many of them won CGs, NCs or made the playoffs while in college?

How many of them played for helmet schools?

I think Day is a good coach.  But seeing just how good Stroud is, for an offensive coach, if we saw his peak with Stroud, I just think we've seen his absolute ceiling.  Just like I think we've seen Lincoln Riley's limitations

[ELA]

https://www.si.com/nfl/2024/01/07/steelers-godwin-igwebuike-clever-special-teams-play

[Honestbuckeye]

How many of them played for helmet schools?

I think Day is a good coach.  But seeing just how good Stroud is, for an offensive coach, if we saw his peak with Stroud, I just think we've seen his absolute ceiling.  Just like I think we've seen Lincoln Riley's limitations

I don’t think so at all.  They became very close to winning the conference this year, with a far less quarterback, but a good defense.  

[MrNubbz]

How many of them played for helmet schools?

I think Day is a good coach.  But seeing just how good Stroud is, for an offensive coach, if we saw his peak with Stroud, I just think we've seen his absolute ceiling.  Just like I think we've seen Lincoln Riley's limitations

Interesting take,early on as HC he did some great things but the roster and coaches weren't staffed by him. The old saying - it's easy to be a saint when someone else set the stage for your miracles - seems to ring true.The further away from URBZ shadow has shined some light on his ability to meet all the requirements.Look no further from than Booger sure he got some outside help from Bro and solid staffing. Thats what is needed to recruit and coach,Day missed on portaling linemen when UM didn't. I like Knowles/Hartline but couldn't really tell you about the rest.Maybe the early success clouded Days judgement of himself,as his ability to manage the staff and roster as Tressel/Meyer did previously remains a big question mark.