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Mdot21

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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #462 on: October 31, 2023, 05:09:38 PM »
Lions trade a 2025 6th rd pick for Browns WR Donovan Peoples-Jones. Like adding the depth, high level athlete with size and can help the return teams right away. 


https://twitter.com/nickbaumgardner/status/1719436987499794662?s=20

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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #463 on: October 31, 2023, 05:51:01 PM »


Seriously,WTF I really liked him,that 230 mil.$$$ tinker bell couln't find him when he was in.Well at least it wasn't in division good luck to him and the Lions
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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #464 on: October 31, 2023, 10:07:02 PM »
For a 2025 6th, that's basically a waiver claim.  Was hoping they would make an impact move on the DL.  But I think it's very telling of what they think of Jameson Williams, that they were willing to do this

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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #465 on: October 31, 2023, 10:11:37 PM »
I don't understand the NFL.

It seems like you should just acquire the best players 2-3 years after they're drafted.  Even the productive ones can be had for a mid-late round pick. 

What am I missing?
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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #466 on: November 01, 2023, 09:41:56 AM »

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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #467 on: November 01, 2023, 10:12:33 AM »
I don't understand the NFL.

It seems like you should just acquire the best players 2-3 years after they're drafted.  Even the productive ones can be had for a mid-late round pick.

What am I missing?
A few things IMHO...

  • These aren't always the "best players". They're the best players that the team shopping them isn't willing to invest in a longer term contract. Because if they're REALLY good, the team that drafted them is signing them beyond the rookie deal. (Except for RBs of course.)
  • There aren't that many of these guys moved each year, despite all the news at the trade deadline. So you can't make a strategy of building a team around these types of players. It's more of trying to find the right piece when you're a contender to get you over the hump. 
  • You're getting players that are typically in the 3rd or 4th year of their 4-year rookie deal. So if you give up picks to get them, and you're NOT willing to pay them at the end of their deal, you're bleeding picks that you might need to replace them when they leave. If you give up picks to get them, and you ARE willing to pay them at the end of their deal, you end up with a lot of pricy assets and then can start running into salary cap problems and having to scrimp elsewhere on the roster to pay these players. 


Roster / contract / salary cap management in the NFL is the thing that makes it a lot more complex than doing what you're suggesting.

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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #468 on: November 05, 2023, 04:24:04 PM »
Holy hell CJ Stroud

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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #469 on: November 05, 2023, 04:26:27 PM »
470 yards.  5 tds.  No picks new rookie record. 

Took them 75 yards in 46 seconds to take the lead. 

And that was despite being sacked three times and harassed all day long.
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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #470 on: November 05, 2023, 06:09:42 PM »
I'm old enough to remember when MSU swooped in with an offer when WSU and Cal were his only P5 offers.  He was a presumed MSU lean until his Elite 11 performance, and we knew bigger fish were coming.

He's one of those guys that a generation ago, who winds up at WSU or Cal.

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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #471 on: November 05, 2023, 06:15:24 PM »
I'm old enough to remember when MSU swooped in with an offer when WSU and Cal were his only P5 offers.  He was a presumed MSU lean until his Elite 11 performance, and we knew bigger fish were coming.

He's one of those guys that a generation ago, who winds up at WSU or Cal.
And when Day went out there to look at him- which was before the Elite 11- a bunch of people told him to check out this scrawny 3 star WR named Olave. 
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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #472 on: November 05, 2023, 07:56:25 PM »
Ravens look like comfortably the best team in the NFL right now

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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #473 on: November 05, 2023, 08:18:21 PM »
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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #474 on: November 05, 2023, 08:19:41 PM »
That was absolutely brutal

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Re: 2023 NFL Thread
« Reply #475 on: November 05, 2023, 09:08:08 PM »
Ravens look like comfortably the best team in the NFL right now
I dunno they eaked out a win vs the Cardinals last week thought I might get bumped from my survivor pool
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