2023 NFL Draft Thread

[Cincydawg]

In theory, a 3rd round QB might improve over his final year enough to be a first day pick.  Now we're talking $13 million at the bottom end, up to over $40.  So, I think IF you think another year will boost your draft status, it makes sense to stay.

Yeah, the salary gap between Day One and "other" is huge.

[MrNubbz]

dude JSN is a plug and play receiver and should most definitely go in the 1st rd. Especially with the way the passing game in the NFL is today- his versatility to play any of the WR spots- X,Y,Z at a high level will put him at a premium in the league. He's a freaking 1st rd lock. I would be shocked if he didn't go 1st rd.

Potential is there Not a burner and a bad hammy played mostly slot needs to be outside for ahigh pick. Ran a 4.48 at the combine and many felt he could have given the Playoffs a shot.  Mclaurin,Campell,Olave, Wilson all 4.31-4.38 guys. JS-N had one good season and basically not playing for a year not sure i'd take him in the top 20. Good hands and moves. Better be quick enough to avoid getting stuffed at the line

[FearlessF]

I hope he lands with my team

[rook119]

He'll sign somewhere for a totally reasonable contract. Perhaps less than 133M gaurenteed the Ravens may or may not offered him.

He just wants out, he publically said he wanted to be traded to tell the Ravens that if they match any contract offer he's not showing up.

Harbaugh has been the only person in management that has at least publically supported Lamar. Plus there has been serious bad blood between the owner/GM and Lamar stretching well before the beginning of last season. The Ravens owner rarely talks to the media and generally doesn't meddle but can't shut up when it comes to Lamar often w/ cringey comments (said he wants to sell and probably doesn't want to pay the bonus). Then they traded Brown who was a good fit on that team and the Ravens trotted out perhaps the worst collection of WRs in a decade. No.1 Bateman is a good No.1 on a XFL team then got hurt early in the season, No.2 (who became the No.1 WR) Duaverney is a good punt returner. Huntley (who lol made the pro bowl) who couldn't throw to blanketed WRs regressed in 2022 as well.

The Ravens are low key toxic right now. 

 The coach is preparing like Lamar is gonna be there. The GM/owner has built a team as if Lamar doesn't even exist (imagine the Bills saying, hey Josh Allen, heres a punt returner as a new starting wideout because you know what you really need, Kyle Hamilton). They treated Dobbins w/ kid gloves over 1.5 seasons then he magically comes back as soon as Lamar is injured and single handedly torches the steelers. They supposedly are broke and can't sign anyone but they signed Roquan Smith for $$$ (Roquan deserves it but it looks bad when you also sign Nelson Abongolor at 3M to be your No.1? guy) 

Harbaugh like all coaches sure does stupid things from time to time in games (going for it is fine, just y'know don't call the exact same play/formation the other team saw on film last week, and also the week before mmmKay?). However he's really tried hard and been somewhat successful keeping everything from boiling up. For better or worse Jim would have gone scorched earth on the fact they'll get 2 late No.1 picks for Lamar, then have to perhaps package even more draft picks to get an unproven rookie QB. 

I'm a steeler fan, there is a future for our team w/o Lamar. He's a good passer and maybe his shelf life isn't TB12 but it'll last a 5 year contract. He made Hollywood Brown look good. His only credible pass catcher is Andrews who he manages to find despite getting doubled regularly.    

[ELA]

My 7 round Mock

ROUND 1

• 1. Panthers - QB Bryce Young, Alabama
• 2. Texans - QB C.J. STROUD, OHIO STATE
• 3. Cardinals - DE Will Anderson Jr., Alabama
• 4. Colts - CB Christian Gonzalez, Oregon
• 5. Seahawks - EDGE Tyree Wilson, Texas Tech
• 6. Lions - DT Jalen Carter, Georgia
• 7. Raiders - OG PETER SKORONSKI, NORTHWESTERN
• 8. Falcons - CB DEVON WITHERSPOON, ILLINOIS
• 9. Bears - OT PARIS JOHNSON JR., OHIO STATE
• 10. Eagles - RB Bijan Robinson, Texas
• 11. Titans - WR JAXON SMITH-NJIGBA, OHIO STATE
• 12. Texans - OLB Nolan Smith, Georgia
• 13. Jets - OT Broderick Jones, Georgia
• 14. Patriots - CB JOEY PORTER JR., PENN STATE
• 15. Packers - DE LUKAS VAN NESS, IOWA
• 16. Commanders - QB Anthony Richardson, Florida

Steelers trade Pick #17 to Buccaneers for Pick #19 and two 5th Round picks (#153 and #175)

• 17. Buccaneers - DE Myles Murphy, Clemson
• 18. Lions - TE Michael Mayer, Notre Dame

Steelers trade Pick #19 to Colts for 2nd Round (#35), 3rd Round (#79), and 4th Round (#106)

• 19. Colts - QB Will Levis, Kentucky
• 20. Seahawks - WR Quentin Johnson, TCU
• 21. Chargers - WR Zay Flowers, Boston College
• 22. Ravens - WR Jordan Addison, USC
• 23. Vikings - CB DEONTE BANKS, MARYLAND
• 24. Jaguars - TE Dalton Kincaid, Utah

Giants trade Pick #25 to Patriots for 2nd Round (#46), 3rd Round (#76) and 4th Round (#135)

• 25. Patriots - OT Darnell Wright, Tennessee
• 26. Cowboys - RB Jahmyr Gibbs, Alabama

Bills trade Pick #27 and 4th Round (#130) to Eagles for Pick #30 and 3rd Round (#94)

• 27. Eagles - S Brian Branch, Alabama
• 28. Bengals - CB Cam Smith, South Carolina
• 29. Saints - DT Calijah Kancey, Pittsburgh
• 30. Bills - ILB Drew Sanders, Arkansas
• 31. Chiefs - DE Will McDonald IV, Iowa State

[ELA]

ROUND 2

• 32. Steelers - DT Bryan Bresee, Clemson
• 33. Texans - WR Jalin Hyatt, Tennessee
• 34. Cardinals - OG O'Cyrus Torrence, Florida
• 35. Steelers - OT Anton Harrison, Oklahoma
• 36. Rams - CB Kelee Ringo, Georgia
• 37. Seahawks - DT MAZI SMITH, MICHIGAN
• 38. Raiders - DE Felix Anudike-Uzomah, Kansas State
• 39. Panthers - DE ADETOMIWA ADEBAWORE, NORTHWESTERN
• 40. Saints - DE Keion White, Georgia Tech
• 41. Titans - OC JOHN MICHAEL SCHMITZ, MINNESOTA
• 42. Jets - OC Steve Avila, TCU

Jets trade Pick #43 to Packers for Pick #45 and 5th Round (#170)

• 43. Packers - TE Darnell Washington, Georgia
• 44. Falcons - DE Isaiah Foskey, Notre Dame
• 45. Jets - ILB Trenton Simpson, Clemson
• 46. Giants - WR Josh Downs, North Carolina
• 47. Commanders - CB Emmanuel Forbes, Mississippi State

Lions trade Pick #48 to Buccaneers for Pick #50 and 6th Round (#179)

• 48. Buccaneers - QB Hendon Hooker, Tennessee
• 49. Steelers - CB Julius Brents, Kansas State
• 50. Lions - CB D.J. TURNER, MICHIGAN

Dolphins trade Pick #51 to Lions for Pick #55 and 4th Round (#152)

• 51. Lions - DE B.J. Ojulari, LSU
• 52. Seahawks - OC JOE TIPPMAN, WISCONSIN
• 53. Bears - DE Derick Hall, Clemson
• 54. Chargers - ILB JACK CAMPBELL, IOWA
• 55. Dolphins - TE Luke Musgrave, Oregon State

Jaguars trade Pick #56, and two 4th Round (#121 and #127) to Bengals for Pick #60 and 3rd Round (#92)

• 56. Bengals - OT Cody Mauch, North Dakota State

Giants trade Pick #57 to Raiders for two 3rd Round (#70 and #100)

• 57. Raiders - OT DAWAND JONES, OHIO STATE
• 58. Cowboys - DT KEEANU BENTON, WISCONSIN
• 59. Bills - WR Rashee Rice, SMU

Jaguars trade Pick #60 to Titans for 3rd Round (#72), 5th Round (#147) and 6th Round (#186)

• 60. Titans - OT Matthew Bergeron, Syracuse

Bears trade Pick #61 to Packers for 3rd Round (#78), 4th Round (#116) and 5th Round (#149)

• 61. Packers - S Antonio Johnson, Texas A&M
• 62. Eagles - DE Byron Young, Tennessee
• 63. Chiefs - WR Tyler Scott, Cincinnati

[ELA]

Well, that trade really throws a wrench in it already completed draft board

[Cincydawg]

This turns into a recruiting point eventually, right?  If your program does well in the draft, it gets attention?

[ELA]

ROUND 3

• 64. Bears - DT Siaka Ika, Baylor
• 65. Texans - ILB Daiyan Henley, Washington State
• 66. Cardinals - CB Tyrique Stevenson, Miami
• 67. Broncos - DT Gervon Dexter, Florida

Broncos trade Pick #68 and 6th Round (#195) to Saints for Pick #71 and 5th Round (#165)

• 68. Saints - TE SAM LAPORTA, IOWA
• 69. Rams - OT JAELYN DUNCAN, MARYLAND
• 70. Giants - RB Devon Achane, Texas A&M
• 71. Broncos - CB Clark Phillips III, Utah

Jaguars trade Pick #72 to Browns for Pick #74 and 6th Round (#190)

• 72. Browns - DE Tui Tuipulotu, USC
• 73. Texans - DE ZACH HARRISON, OHIO STATE
• 74. Jaguars - S SYDNEY BROWN, ILLINOIS
• 75. Falcons - WR Cedric Tillman, Tennessee

Giants trade Pick #76 to Dolphins for Pick #84, 5th Round (#152) and 6th Round (#197)

• 76. Dolphins - RB Zach Charbonnet, UCLA
• 77. Rams - OLB Andre Carter II, Army
• 78. Bears - CB Darius Rush, South Carolina
• 79. Steelers - WR Marvin Mims, Oklahoma

Steelers trade Pick #80 to 49ers for Pick #99 and Pick #102

• 80. 49ers - S JI'AYIR BROWN, PENN STATE
• 81. Lions - OC LUKE WYPLER, OHIO STATE
• 82. Buccaneers - OT Blake Freeland, BYU

Seahawks trade Pick #83 to Commanders for Pick #97 and 4th Round (#118)

• 83. Commanders - TE Tucker Kraft, South Dakota State
• 84. Giants - CB RILEY MOSS, IOWA
• 85. Chargers - DT Zacch Pickens, South Carolina
• 86. Ravens - DE Yaya Diaby, Louisville
• 87. Vikings - WR A.T. Perry, Wake Forest
• 88. Jaguars - CB Jarrick Bernard-Converse, LSU
• 89. Giants - CB Nic Jones, Ball State
• 90. Cowboys - WR JAYDEN REED, MICHIGAN STATE
• 91. Bills - S J.L. Skinner, Boise State
• 92. Jaguars - OC OLUSEGUN OLUWATIMI, MICHIGAN
• 93. Panthers - WR Nathaniel Dell, Houston
• 94. Bills - OC Brett Neilon, USC
• 95. Chiefs - DT Jaquelin Roy, LSU
• 96. Cardinals - RB Tyjae Spears, Tulane
• 97. Seahawks - ILB Henry To'o To'o, Alabama
• 98. Browns - WR Jonathan Mingo, Ole Miss
• 99. Steelers - S Jordan Battle, Alabama

Giants trade Pick #100 to Bengals for two 4th Round Picks (#121 and #127)

• 100. Bengals - S JARTAVIUS MARTIN, ILLINOIS
• 101. 49ers - CB Kyu Blu Kelly, Stanford
• 102. Steelers - ILB DeMarvion Overshown, Texas

[Cincydawg]

Does anyone have any stats handy on how many of those drafted make the roster?

[ELA]

Does anyone have any stats handy on how many of those drafted make the roster?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/prishe/2015/05/22/tracking-nfl-draft-efficiency-how-contingent-is-success-to-draft-position/?sh=74821a067495

[Cincydawg]

Nearly 30% of all starters were 1^st round draft picks when drafted into the league;
-          Roughly 30% were taken in either the 2^nd or 3^rd round;
-          Roughly 26% were taken in either rounds 4 through 7;
-          Undrafted players (14%) were the 3^rd most likely group to comprise 2014’s starters…only behind 1^st round (30%) and 2^nd round (18%) picks.

[ELA]

ROUND 4

• 103. Bears - RB Roschon Johnson, Texas
• 104. Texans - CB Jaylon Jones, Texas A&M
• 105. Cardinals - WR Kayshon Boutte, LSU
• 106. Steelers - DE Colby Wooden, Auburn
• 107. Patriots - OLB NICK HERBIG, WISCONSIN
• 108. Broncos - ILB Dorian Williams, Tulane
• 109. Raiders - CB Garrett Williams, Syracuse
• 110. Falcons - OG Emil Ekiyor Jr., Alabama
• 111. Browns - ILB Noah Sewell, Oregon
• 112. Jets - S Jammie Robinson, Florida State
• 113. Falcons - OT Wanya Morris, Oklahoma
• 114. Panthers - ILB Owen Pappoe, Auburn
• 115. Saints - RB Zach Evans, Ole Miss
• 116. Bears - TE Zach Kuntz, Old Dominion
• 117. Patriots - S Daniel Scott, California
• 118. Seahawks - OG Andrew Vorhees, USC
• 119. Vikings - DT Byron Young, Alabama
• 120. Steelers - RB Tank Bigsby, Auburn
• 121. Giants - OG Chandler Zavala, NC State
• 122. Chiefs - OT Tyler Steen, Alabama
• 123. Seahawks - DE Moro Ojomo, Texas
• 124. Ravens - CB JAKORIAN BENNETT, MARYLAND
• 125. Chargers - RB CHASE BROWN, ILLINOIS
• 126. Browns - DT Jalen Redmond, Oklahoma
• 127. Giants - S CORY TRICE, PURDUE
• 128. Giants - ILB Ventrell Miller, Florida
• 129. Cowboys - TE JAKE SCHOONMAKER, MICHIGAN
• 130. Eagles - WR PARKER WASHINGTON, PENN STATE
• 131. Bengals - TE BRENTON STRANGE, PENN STATE
• 132. Panthers - CB Tre'vius Hodges-Tomlinson, TCU
• 133. Bears - OC Alan Ali, TCU
• 134. Chiefs - RB Eric Gray, Oklahoma
• 135. Giants - DE Karl Brooks, Bowling Green

[Mdot21]

anyone else feel like the Jets gave up too much for a guy that's about to be 40 and is coming off the worst season of his career?