2023 NFL Draft Thread

[rook119]

Lamar Jackson has officially asked to be traded.

Probably going to take a couple 1st rd picks and matching the contract the Browns gave Deshaun Watson to get him.

Ravens screwed up royally. They should’ve redid his deal in 2020 instead of let it run out after 2022. They had so much time to resign him and they dragged their feet. Should be a lesson to every team. If you have a stud player- redo his deal well before the rookie deal is up. If you don’t- it’ll just cost you more down the road to keep him or you’ll just lose him.

He'll sign somewhere for a totally reasonable contract. Perhaps less than 133M gaurenteed the Ravens may or may not offered him. 

He just wants out, he publically said he wanted to be traded to tell the Ravens that if they match any contract offer he's not showing up. 

Harbaugh has been the only person in management that has at least publically supported Lamar. Plus there has been serious bad blood between the owner/GM and Lamar stretching well before the beginning of last season. The Ravens owner rarely talks to the media and generally doesn't meddle but can't shut up when it comes to Lamar often w/ cringey comments (said he wants to sell and probably doesn't want to pay the bonus). Then they traded Brown who was a good fit on that team and the Ravens trotted out perhaps the worst collection of WRs in a decade. No.1 Bateman is a good No.1 on a XFL team then got hurt early in the season, No.2 (who became the No.1 WR) Duaverney is a good punt returner. Huntley (who lol made the pro bowl) who couldn't throw to blanketed WRs regressed in 2022 as well. 


 

[Mdot21]

He'll sign somewhere for a totally reasonable contract. Perhaps less than 133M gaurenteed the Ravens may or may not offered him.

He just wants out, he publically said he wanted to be traded to tell the Ravens that if they match any contract offer he's not showing up.

Harbaugh has been the only person in management that has at least publically supported Lamar. Plus there has been serious bad blood between the owner/GM and Lamar stretching well before the beginning of last season. The Ravens owner rarely talks to the media and generally doesn't meddle but can't shut up when it comes to Lamar often w/ cringey comments (said he wants to sell and probably doesn't want to pay the bonus). Then they traded Brown who was a good fit on that team and the Ravens trotted out perhaps the worst collection of WRs in a decade. No.1 Bateman is a good No.1 on a XFL team then got hurt early in the season, No.2 (who became the No.1 WR) Duaverney is a good punt returner. Huntley (who lol made the pro bowl) who couldn't throw to blanketed WRs regressed in 2022 as well.

I'm just saying....I don't even understand how the Ravens let it get to this point. Had they redone his deal in 2020 or 2021 it'd have cost them a looooot less money to keep him than it would now. Should be a lesson to all NFL teams. Re-do the QB rookie deal ASAP if he's a stud. Longer you wait, longer it's gonna cost you. Dallas learned this the hard way as well with Dak- and they wound up WAY overpaying a guy who isn't even in the same stratosphere as Lamar. 

[FearlessF]

cause Harbaugh??

[betarhoalphadelta]

I don't know why this is so hard to understand. We all know that the NFL doesn't value RBs after their rookie deal. 

[Cincydawg]

I don't know why this is so hard to understand. We all know that the NFL doesn't value RBs after their rookie deal.

Nick Chubb?

[betarhoalphadelta]

Nick Chubb?

I was trying to make the joke that Lamar is more RB than QB, which might be why he's not getting what he thinks is his value as a QB.

But that said, Chubb made a little over $12M / year in 2022. That puts him 6th on the list of RB salary. It would put him somewhere around 28th on the list of WR salary. 

Top WR (Tyreek) makes almost double what the top RB (CMC) makes. McCaffrey's 2022 salary would put him 22nd on the list of top paid WRs in 2022. 

The NFL doesn't value RBs the way they used to. 

And please, don't ever use what the Cleveland Browns are doing as justification for anything to make a point about what someone should do in football. Usually they're used as a point for what NOT to do 

[Cincydawg]

I actually did not know WRs were paid so much better.

[FearlessF]

Anyone can learn things hanging around here

[Mdot21]

I actually did not know WRs were paid so much better.

it’s a straight passing league now. 

seems like all the money goes to the QBs then the WRs and the edge rushers and CBs. 

[Mdot21]

I was trying to make the joke that Lamar is more RB than QB, which might be why he's not getting what he thinks is his value as a QB.

But that said, Chubb made a little over $12M / year in 2022. That puts him 6th on the list of RB salary. It would put him somewhere around 28th on the list of WR salary.

Top WR (Tyreek) makes almost double what the top RB (CMC) makes. McCaffrey's 2022 salary would put him 22nd on the list of top paid WRs in 2022.

The NFL doesn't value RBs the way they used to.

And please, don't ever use what the Cleveland Browns are doing as justification for anything to make a point about what someone should do in football. Usually they're used as a point for what NOT to do

I do think Lamar’s running may have something to do with why he’s not getting paid. He’s a really good passer, definitely underrated and slept on there. 

It’s just a fact that someone who runs the ball more is more likely to get injured. And in the NFL the best ability is availability. No one team wants to give $200 million in contract guarantees to a dual threat QB that is far more likely to deal with injuries than a pure drop back passer. 

That’s just my take. I also think NFL owners are pissed at Browns for Watson’s contract and are trying to push back on fully guaranteed deals. Seems like they don’t want to make that a precedent.

[betarhoalphadelta]

it’s a straight passing league now.

seems like all the money goes to the QBs then the WRs and the edge rushers and CBs.

I'm not quite as sure it's due SOLELY to the fact that it's a straight passing league. I think it's also due to the fact that being an RB is a brutal life, and anyone who can shoulder 20+ touches a game is going to crash and burn right about the time they hit 27-28 years old. Unless they're a genetic freak like Derrick Henry who is so freakin' big that he injures defenders; they don't hurt him. 

RBs in this league are still important, but they have a shelf life. Work them to death, throw them to the wolves and draft someone young. Unlike WRs who can be productive into the early 30s. 

[FearlessF]

Guaranteed contracts for any football player is stupid 

[Mdot21]

Detroit sports teams are top 3 across the board! Top 3 worst that is...


https://twitter.com/_ZachShaw/status/1641482185755570190?s=20

[MrNubbz]

And please, don't ever use what the Cleveland Browns are doing as justification for anything to make a point about what someone should do in football.

That is a dirty,rotten,no good,low down,accurate thing to say