2023 Michigan Season Thread

[ELA]

And if you believe that’s true, don’t you believe it’s completely misguided? Wouldn’t restoring competitive advantage be far more important, especially for penn state, rather than prioritizing punishment for the university?

That's never how cheating punishments have worked in sports.  You also want to disincentivize future teams from doing it.  Just restoring competitive balance after an advantage has already been gained makes it worth doing it for as.long as.you can get away with it

[ELA]

Yeah, people can only experience emotion from death and sickness. Quite odd because some experience bitterness and hatred of people over a game.

I'm not saying he can't be emotional.  I'm sorry his feelings were hurt that his boss got a slap on the wrist for cheating.  But I can also think it's hilariously naive for him to have that emotion.

My children cry over stupid shit all the time, and I frequently hold back chuckling while consoling them.  And hope they outgrow that, and separately learn to follow rules.

[FearlessF]

I'm sorry his feelings were hurt

hah!!!  I'm not sorry

Cheaters!

[SuperMario]

  But I can also think it's hilariously naive for him to have that emotion.

Again, what? Dude was placed in a very uncomfortable situation, with the dreams of so many of his players in his hands in a very unexpected moment.

it’s just comical how so many people here are know-it-alls about every detail of this story, but really you actually aren’t.

could Michigan have blatantly cheated and every coach knew the details and they are truly clowns, including this reaction? Sure. Could be the reality we end up seeing.. and if so, shame on all of them…reality could also be that Stallions was completely rogue and lied about every detail about how he was getting signs and every coach and player had no clue and they thought he was just a genius from watching films and they feel like their dreams, integrity and success are attempting to be stolen from every angle. Also, could be true. The reality is, no one here knows the truth yet there’s such a vast group here that believe they know everything and anyone disagreeing is just clueless. And all the facts are perfectly laid out.

remember all the facts perfectly laid out about covid vaccines? Yeah.. seems like a lot of people are regretting buying into that expertise truth they had on that topic too. Last thing I want to do is go political, but the point is people that often believe they know everything right off the bat end up looking far more foolish than those that are cautious waiting for more facts and details before making up their mind.

[FearlessF]

could Michigan have blatantly cheated and every coach knew the details and they are truly clowns

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every coach didn't know the details, but they should have asked by now
it's pretty obvious that some on the staff blatantly cheated

[SuperMario]

could Michigan have blatantly cheated and every coach knew the details and they are truly clowns

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every coach didn't know the details, but they should have asked by now
it's pretty obvious that some on the staff blatantly cheated

This is supposedly what OSU provided to Purdue prior to facing Michigan. Again, may be fake, I have no idea but Michigan claims this was sent to NCAA.

What if UM coaches asked Stallions for visual proof of how he is getting his info and he provided something similar? They could have thought due diligence was done.

is this likely? Maybe not, but we also don’t know. That’s all I’m saying. I’m not implying Michigan is innocent. I’m saying I’m confident no one else knew. All I’m saying is we just just know at this stage of the game and any stance that X is true and anyone disagreeing is dumb, is shortsighted and an impatient stance.

[FearlessF]

just my opinion

well, not really, many folks opinion

WAY too much smoke to not have been a fire

for the Big Ten Commish to suspend Jim, there's damn good evidence that there was cheating.
damn good evidence

If Jim's staff are still thinkin there was no cheating, well that's on them

[Mdot21]

if Jeem does leave for the NFL and Sherrone Moore is promoted to HC AND they can somehow convince JJ and Donovan Edwards to comeback for their senior seasons, Michigan might actually be really good in 2024.

They basically don't have a QB in 2024- they'll have to go portal it or play a true frosh Jaydn Davis. And I do like the RB's they're bringing in the 2024 class and the true frosh Benjamin Hall will be a pretty good back when it's all said and done- but none of these dudes have the talent of Edwards. Edwards is the most physically gifted back I've seen at Michigan since Wheatley imo.

Corum = best back at Michigan since Hart. Edwards = most talented back at Michigan since Wheatley.

Having said all that, I think there's a 30% chance at best they can even get JJ back and I'd be absolutely shocked if Edwards came back, he's already said he's going to the NFL after his junior year.

[Riffraft]

And if you believe that’s true, don’t you believe it’s completely misguided? Wouldn’t restoring competitive advantage be far more important, especially for penn state, rather than prioritizing punishment for the university?

The is no way to restore.  Games have already been played with um having the competitive advantage.  Stallions is already gone.  Only thing left is to punish the offender (the university).  Which is what the big ten did.

[847badgerfan]

if Jeem does leave for the NFL and Sherrone Moore is promoted to HC AND they can somehow convince JJ and Donovan Edwards to comeback for their senior seasons, Michigan might actually be really good in 2024.

They basically don't have a QB in 2024- they'll have to go portal it or play a true frosh Jaydn Davis. And I do like the RB's they're bringing in the 2024 class and the true frosh Benjamin Hall will be a pretty good back when it's all said and done- but none of these dudes have the talent of Edwards. Edwards is the most physically gifted back I've seen at Michigan since Wheatley imo.

Corum = best back at Michigan since Hart. Edwards = most talented back at Michigan since Wheatley.

Having said all that, I think there's a 30% chance at best they can even get JJ back and I'd be absolutely shocked if Edwards came back, he's already said he's going to the NFL after his junior year.

I got some for ya.

[Benthere2]

OK so the Big Ten has chimed (not going away but done for now) in but this in no means gets Michigan out of trouble with the NCAA, right?

just asking 

could the NCAA snub Jimmy and his team if their investigation deems that the evidence, in totality, is enough to warranty that some games were won by "Grey area's" of rule breaking?  i think we can all agree that the real investigation is with NCAA and maybe the feds (doesnt this have gambling implications as well or at least affected outcomes of games)

lets say OSU wins and Michigan is 11-1, can the committee manually drop them to 5 and leave them at home?  assuming they beat Maryland on the road.

while the fight right now to to save face and get Jim back on the sideline do people really think this is going to be dropped?  Are Michigan Fans thinking lets see if we win it all and then if we have to vacate the wins lt least we know we won?

[ELA]

11-1 Michigan isn't getting in anyway

[MrNubbz]

I'm sorry his feelings were hurt

hah!!!  I'm not sorry

Cheaters!

https://youtu.be/g42FIJfYPKw

[FearlessF]

that was my thought ed zachery!

great minds