2023 Michigan Season Thread

[Honestbuckeye]

Pathetic that some of the coaches who complained to the Big Ten that Michigan was cheating by stealing signs have themselves been cheating all along.

Take this dribble somewhere else.  What you were saying is completely false and I really don’t think anyone else here that’s not a Michigan fan believes one word of it. 

[SuperMario]

 Is your memory OK? Do you remember posting yesterday?

You know what.. F off.. Anyone that takes a shot at me because they know my history of having a craniotomy is truly an asshole. I'm done ever corresponding with you. 

[Temp430]

Day and Schiano Deny Cheating

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/ryan-day-greg-schiano-deny-sharing-michigans-signals-with-purdue-in-2022-as-sign-stealing-scandal-broadens/

[Cincydawg]

I keep saying most stuff we read about this right now is unsubstantiated burfle for clicks.  You have a thousand "reporters" vying for "news" who will report anything they thought they heard from some coaches' cousin's FB friend.

[Honestbuckeye]

You know what.. F off.. Anyone that takes a shot at me because they know my history of having a craniotomy is truly an asshole. I'm done ever corresponding with you.

Well I hadn’t even thought of that.  Truly.  I apologize if you read it that way.   I should have remembered.  

[Honestbuckeye]

Day and Schiano Deny Cheating

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/ryan-day-greg-schiano-deny-sharing-michigans-signals-with-purdue-in-2022-as-sign-stealing-scandal-broadens/

So in other words, they straight up said it isn’t true?

They didn’t take the Harbaugh tact of 
“ I am not aware” or “ but look over there- they are doing it”

[Honestbuckeye]

https://twitter.com/matthewcstevens/status/1722675728762683725?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1722675728762683725%7Ctwgr%5E803f6d9dbec239b8abb99a8e4c47c453cafeb8a0%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2F247sports.com%2Fcollege%2Fohio-state%2Fboard%2F120%2FContents%2Fadam-rittenberg-2pm-thursday-219911259%2F%3Fpage%3D1

[medinabuckeye1]

https://twitter.com/matthewcstevens/status/1722675728762683725?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1722675728762683725%7Ctwgr%5E803f6d9dbec239b8abb99a8e4c47c453cafeb8a0%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2F247sports.com%2Fcollege%2Fohio-state%2Fboard%2F120%2FContents%2Fadam-rittenberg-2pm-thursday-219911259%2F%3Fpage%3D1

Bert calls what Michigan (allegedly, but they aren't even denying it) did "sickening, disgusting" and says we have to "uphold the integrity of the league".

[Honestbuckeye]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/michigan-has-allowed-football-and-jim-harbaugh-to-become-its-god-commentary/ar-AA1jCmPo

Kind of sums it up.  It is what ELA has been saying for a while now. 

[Cincydawg]

"We used to think of the University of Michigan as a bastion of academic excellence,  as one of the nation’s premier research universities and arguably the most esteemed public university in America. Now when we think of Michigan, we think of just another sewer-dwelling, win-at-all-cost football factory that will do anything and everything in its power to win a national championship."


I completely disagree with that assertion when he uses the pronoun "we".  It's bunk, to me.  

[medinabuckeye1]

What will the B1G do?  
IMHO, suspending Harbaugh is both clearly insufficient and almost completely irrelevant.  All along I've tried to say "allegedly" when referring to what Stallions did but at this point it appears that we can dispense with that.  The B1G presented Michigan with evidence that Stallions bought tickets to future Michigan opponents' games and that those seats were used by people who appeared to record the sidelines during the games.  Both attending the games (advance scouting) and recording the signals (using video to steal signs) are violations of the agreed upon rules of the game.  Michigan's response did not deny that cheating.  

Michigan has to be banned from the post-season THIS YEAR.  The integrity of the game is at stake.  CFP spots are a finite resource.  That limited resource should not be given to a program known to have cheated at the expense of some other program.  

I know that the Michigan "men" here are going to think that I'm saying this because it could benefit my team but I have two answers to that:

• The integrity of the game is at issue here, that is bigger than Michigan or Ohio State or even the rivalry.  
• I strongly doubt that it would impact tOSU anyway.  Ohio State will either beat Michigan in which case it is a moot point or they will lose to Michigan in which case they probably wouldn't make the CFP anyway.  The impact here is most likely on FSU, Texas, Washington, or Oregon.  Those schools should not suffer for Michigan's cheating.  

There is no reason for the B1G to jump the que and punish Michigan for prior transgressions (the 2021 and 2022 cheating) because there is no rush.  The prior wins and championships that are tainted by their cheating in should be vacated but it makes no difference whether that is done this week or after the 2023 season.  The only reason for the B1G to jump in is to protect the integrity of the game by prohibiting a known cheater from obtaining benefits of their cheating this year.  

I think back to my boyhood when my favorite CBB team lost out on a F4 trip by getting knocked out in the E8 by a cheating team (guess who?).  Nothing the NCAA did after the fact got that boy's favorite CBB team the F4 that they deserved.  The integrity of the sport demands that we not allow the same thing to happen to some kid's favorite football team when we know about it in advance.  Somewhere out there is a boy who roots for FSU, Texas, Washington, or Oregon and it would be an absolute travesty to allow cheating Michigan to take a CFP spot from that boy's team.  

[Mdot21]

"We used to think of the University of Michigan as a bastion of academic excellence,  as one of the nation’s premier research universities and arguably the most esteemed public university in America. Now when we think of Michigan, we think of just another sewer-dwelling, win-at-all-cost football factory that will do anything and everything in its power to win a national championship."


I completely disagree with that assertion when he uses the pronoun "we".  It's bunk, to me. 

100%. Ranting of nothing more than a mediot retard blowhard.

Anyone who believes that nonsensical drivel also believed in the tooth fairy and Santa Clause til they were 18 and were virgins til they were 40.

Opinions and assholes. Everyone's got em. Especially stupid assholes with stupid opinions.

[Mdot21]

What will the B1G do? 
IMHO, suspending Harbaugh is both clearly insufficient and almost completely irrelevant.  All along I've tried to say "allegedly" when referring to what Stallions did but at this point it appears that we can dispense with that.  The B1G presented Michigan with evidence that Stallions bought tickets to future Michigan opponents' games and that those seats were used by people who appeared to record the sidelines during the games.  Both attending the games (advance scouting) and recording the signals (using video to steal signs) are violations of the agreed upon rules of the game.  Michigan's response did not deny that cheating. 

Michigan has to be banned from the post-season THIS YEAR.  The integrity of the game is at stake.  CFP spots are a finite resource.  That limited resource should not be given to a program known to have cheated at the expense of some other program. 

I know that the Michigan "men" here are going to think that I'm saying this because it could benefit my team but I have two answers to that:

• The integrity of the game is at issue here, that is bigger than Michigan or Ohio State or even the rivalry. 
• I strongly doubt that it would impact tOSU anyway.  Ohio State will either beat Michigan in which case it is a moot point or they will lose to Michigan in which case they probably wouldn't make the CFP anyway.  The impact here is most likely on FSU, Texas, Washington, or Oregon.  Those schools should not suffer for Michigan's cheating. 

There is no reason for the B1G to jump the que and punish Michigan for prior transgressions (the 2021 and 2022 cheating) because there is no rush.  The prior wins and championships that are tainted by their cheating in should be vacated but it makes no difference whether that is done this week or after the 2023 season.  The only reason for the B1G to jump in is to protect the integrity of the game by prohibiting a known cheater from obtaining benefits of their cheating this year. 

I think back to my boyhood when my favorite CBB team lost out on a F4 trip by getting knocked out in the E8 by a cheating team (guess who?).  Nothing the NCAA did after the fact got that boy's favorite CBB team the F4 that they deserved.  The integrity of the sport demands that we not allow the same thing to happen to some kid's favorite football team when we know about it in advance.  Somewhere out there is a boy who roots for FSU, Texas, Washington, or Oregon and it would be an absolute travesty to allow cheating Michigan to take a CFP spot from that boy's team. 

[Mdot21]

Bert calls what Michigan (allegedly, but they aren't even denying it) did "sickening, disgusting" and says we have to "uphold the integrity of the league".

Oh gee if that hideous fatfck cocks*cking waste of space disgusting piece of human sh*t BERT says it, it must be true! GTFO. BERT is a fat stupid asshole who can go have a heart attack and go fck himself.