2023 Michigan Season Thread

[Brutus Buckeye]

Michigan has sent the Big Ten a 10 page response.  Comically, one of the points made was that the Big Ten has provided so little evidence it’s not possible to refute the allegations.

The Big Ten has better lawyers than Michigan does. 

[MrNubbz]

[medinabuckeye1]

Pretty solid response. And for the record, I may not always like your take, but I still respect it.

PS - any chance you went to the Medina game tonight? I should have remembered to ask if you were going. I brought my two oldest and they had a blast.

Thank you.


No, I didn't. I have four now but none are old enough for that, they are 4.5, 3, 1.5, 2 weeks.

[Temp430]

The Big Ten has better lawyers than Michigan does.

I don't think so.  We'll find out in the next few days if Petitti crosses the Rubicon or not.  Being the chicken shit that Petitti is I'm guessing he'll try something late Friday or Saturday morning in an attempt to delay Michigan's legal challenge and get Coach Harbaugh off the field on Saturday.

[Temp430]

Bruce Feldman says other teams in-person scouted, were reported to the NCAA, and the NCAA did nothing.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS9O6UcTuX4

[Brutus Buckeye]

I don't think so.  We'll find out in the next few days if Petitti crosses the Rubicon or not.  Being the chicken shit that Petitti is I'm guessing he'll try something late Friday or Saturday morning in an attempt to delay Michigan's legal challenge and get Coach Harbaugh off the field on Saturday.

When Mich joined the Big Ten, it gave up any rights to sue the Big Ten. Due process can be 1 minute or 500 years, and it's up to the Big Ten to set the due process time.

If the Big Ten suspends Harbaugh, what happens if he shows up on the field to coach? Is the Big Ten ready to have him arrested and escorted out of the stadium?

[MaximumSam]

 I have four now but none are old enough for that, they are 4.5, 3, 1.5, 2 weeks.

Whew buddy I need a nap just reading that

[Temp430]

When Mich joined the Big Ten, it gave up any rights to sue the Big Ten. Due process can be 1 minute or 500 years, and it's up to the Big Ten to set the due process time.

If the Big Ten suspends Harbaugh, what happens if he shows up on the field to coach? Is the Big Ten ready to have him arrested and escorted out of the stadium?

Maybe there'll be a shoot out between the Michigan police escort and the Big Ten thugs? /s

[Honestbuckeye]

😂

[SuperMario]

Thank you.


No, I didn't. I have four now but none are old enough for that, they are 4.5, 3, 1.5, 2 weeks.

Wow!! I had no idea and congrats on the recent addition. 4 terrifies me lol. Ours are 7,5 and 11 months. That’s enough. The 7 and 5 year old loved going. I have to admit, I haven’t gone to a high school event in a long time, but after last night it will be a consistent thing we do as a family.

[Temp430]

Burn it all down...

https://www.yalejreg.com/nc/sign-stealing-and-the-antitrust-laws/

[LittlePig]

Thank you.

No, I didn't. I have four now but none are old enough for that, they are 4.5, 3, 1.5, 2 weeks.

Wow, I am amazed you have any spare time at all.  That's a handful and more.

[MaximumSam]

Burn it all down...

https://www.yalejreg.com/nc/sign-stealing-and-the-antitrust-laws/

I mean, it's an argument, but there is probably a fundamental difference between restrictions on getting payers paid and regulations about the actual game of football

[betarhoalphadelta]

How do you feel about it? I'm still undecided and not because it's Harbaugh and Michigan. If one of my guys secretly broke the law and it took down me and my family, i'd be pissed, especially if he did it very discretely. At the same time I understand accountability. Very fine line and curious your take.

Also not asked, but here's my thought. 

I don't agree with a blanket statement that the head coach is culpable for everything that happens within a program. There are plenty of areas where wrongdoing can occur that a head coach can plausibly say not only that they didn't know, but that there was no way they "should have known", which is what this concept is stating. It's saying the head coach ALWAYS "should have known" what's going on everywhere. 

However, I think in this case, it's something where the head coach "should have known" what Stalions was doing. 

Stipulating that what we believe we know (Stalions was working with the OC/DC on the sideline interpreting opponent signs and communicating that to the coordinator before plays) is accurate, it immediately raises a ton of red flags that a coach should be trying to understand how Stalions acquired that knowledge. This is one of those areas where "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is" comes to mind. I would think that nearly any plausible explanation other than what he was actually doing of how Stalions was able to decipher opponent signal systems would immediately raise the question of "if this dude can do it via legitimate means, wouldn't EVERY team be doing the same?" After all, Stalions doesn't seem to me to have the resume of being so ridiculously smart that he's got a unicorn superpower that nobody else could replicate. 

To me, it's the sort of thing where some skeezy guy approaches you in a van and has high-end speakers he's selling for $100/pair. You know those speakers retail for $500 ea. You can just accept that he's got extra inventory he's looking to unload for cheap, or you can be the adult and realize those speakers are either stolen or counterfeit. A dishonest man buys those speakers and tells himself "wow, what a great deal I just got!" An honest man walks away. 

To me, this is a situation where a head coach should have known that this was too good to be true w/o breaking any rules.