2023 Michigan Season Thread

[Mdot21]

There is nothing new in this article. One’s letter was sent to the Big - and the other  school presidents- BEFORE he met with commish. According to “ UM insiders” Ono was shown new evidence he was not aware of- said to be “overwhelming.”

what they are saying now is that the big 10 and the University of Michigan brass have been trying to negotiate. They are saying that UM won’t even except a limited suspension of the head coach, and the Big Ten is pushing for an indefinite suspension of the coach. 

They are saying that the law firms hired by Michigan, have been working around the clock to prepare an injunction for when the Big Ten tries to suspend Harbaugh.  They are also saying that they are threatening to turn over “dirt” that they have on all the other schools. 

If you’re going down take everyone down with you- kind of thing. 

The Michigan insiders have been off quite a bit on all of this- so no idea how much of this is true.

I believe the one "insider" you're probably referring to is Chris Balas currently at On3, who used to work at Rivals but got fired. The guy is a total asshat and clown that just makes sh*t up and has no sources.

B1G can't just suspend Jeem because AD's and coaches are sore losers and butthurt and scared. B1G bylaws state- have to do an investigation. You aren't doing an investigation in a weekend...

refer to by section 10.3.1...

https://bigten.org/documents/2022/11/23/2022_23_Big_Ten_Handbook_Sportsmanship.pdf

[Honestbuckeye]

I wouldn’t call ELA’s post lazy and stupid. He is just voicing what a lot of people are thinking. 

I do tend to agree with you MDot- on Purdue.  Michigan absolutely annihilated them even while being a little rusty coming off the bye week, which is very normal.

In fact, I will make his point again    Michigan has the most talented team in the Big Ten, straight up on a level, playing field, and maybe the best team in the country.  THIS SEASON.  

I will be happy to wager that they win against Penn State and Ohio State, as well as the Big Ten championship, knowing that they are playing straight up with no sign stealing, because they are just that good. 

But what you were missing here is it does not change what happened in 21 and 22.  They had an ill gotten, in- game advantage.  You simply can’t just say “well they’re the best team right now so they would have one in 21 and 22 anyway.”  

[Honestbuckeye]

I believe the one "insider" you're probably referring to is Chris Balas currently at On3, who used to work at Rivals but got fired. The guy is a total asshat and clown that just makes sh*t up and has no sources.

B1G can't just suspend Jeem because AD's and coaches are sore losers and butthurt and scared. B1G bylaws state- have to do an investigation. You aren't doing an investigation in a weekend...

refer to by section 10.3.1...

https://bigten.org/documents/2022/11/23/2022_23_Big_Ten_Handbook_Sportsmanship.pdf

It isn’t just Balas.  It’s Hole and Webb- and certain posters  They are all marching to the same tune now.  It’s as if they all received the same talking points.

but let’s be honest- they are all moving the goal posts. 

- it’s a nothing burger
- it didn’t provide an advantage
- it was a lone wolf
- everybody does it
-it’s Ryan Day’s fault
-let the investigation play out
-sue everyone
-leave the BIG conference
-they are scared of Harbaugh
- now it’s “bring everyone down”. - we have the dirt on them

standing on the outside looking in- it is sad

[Cincydawg]

I started wondering if UGA/Smart didn't have wind of this and did a "TCU".  They played awfully well against UM.

If both TCU and UGA came out and said "Yeah, we suspected this and switched our signals", it would be indicative I think, or suggestive at least.

[MrNubbz]

JJ McCarthy is likely going to be a 1st rd pick. The last time Michigan had one of those at QB was in 1987. Blake Corum and Donovan Edwards are both massive upgrades over backs like De'Veon Smith or Karran Higdon or Chris Evans.

I dunno Edwards  has averaged under 3ypc except Min./BG when he had 5ypc . The 3 you mentioned averaged over 5 and wouldn't embarrass themselves behind that line. I wouldn't mention Edwards with Sanders/Payton just yet.If he stays away from his anti-semite slams one of the owners just might take a chance on him.And Manziel and Weeden both went in the 1st RD(BROWNS)  so there is a chance JJ "leave my girl alone,dad" McCarthy could land there

[Cincydawg]

NFL Mock Drafts 2024 - Football Draft Projections - CBSSports.com

I usually pay these no attention, but these "experts" do have JJ as a one rounder.

[MrNubbz]

That mock draft cracks me up Bears upgrading everywhere but the lines - isn't that where they need help?

[SuperMario]

Reading comprehension my friend.  It was presented as a sarcastic hypothetical.   

Clearly my way of saying “ yeah- right”.

So let me get this straight. Your argument is Michigan sign stealing impacts players, CJ is dominant against everyone else including the NFL, but just magically “sucked” that day and the sarcasm part is claiming he didn’t actually suck that day? Then what possibly could your argument have been about the sign stealing?

Can’t play it both ways my man. But yeah, I have reading comprehension problems.

[Temp430]

There is nothing new in this article. One’s letter was sent to the Big - and the other  school presidents- BEFORE he met with commish. According to “ UM insiders” Ono was shown new evidence he was not aware of- said to be “overwhelming.”

what they are saying now is that the big 10 and the University of Michigan brass have been trying to negotiate. They are saying that UM won’t even except a limited suspension of the head coach, and the Big Ten is pushing for an indefinite suspension of the coach. 

They are saying that the law firms hired by Michigan, have been working around the clock to prepare an injunction for when the Big Ten tries to suspend Harbaugh.  They are also saying that they are threatening to turn over “dirt” that they have on all the other schools. 

If you’re going down take everyone down with you- kind of thing. 

The Michigan insiders have been off quite a bit on all of this- so no idea how much of this is true.

What's new is that the Big Ten will wait on the NCAA investigation.  I doubted the Big Ten would do anything before an investigation was launched and completed which the Big Ten has not done.  Even more in doubt is the idea of an indefinite suspension for which the Big Ten commissioner does not have the authority.  That would take a vote of the Big Ten presidents and chancellors.  The worst Pettiti could do is a two week suspension.  So, since the B1G will defer to the NCAA, as it should, don't expect anything this year.  Maybe not next either since Michigan would get a 90 day period to respond to any notice of allegations from the NCAA. 

[Honestbuckeye]

What's new is that the Big Ten will wait on the NCAA investigation.  I doubted the Big Ten would do anything before an investigation was launched and completed which the Big Ten has not done.  Even more in doubt is the idea of an indefinite suspension for which the Big Ten commissioner does not have the authority.  That would take a vote of the Big Ten presidents and chancellors.  The worst Pettiti could do is a two week suspension.  So, since the B1G will defer to the NCAA, as it should, don't expect anything this year.  Maybe not next either since Michigan would get a 90 day period to respond to any notice of allegations from the NCAA. 

Maybe.   Or- that article is just behind the story as it was released before what appears to be a lot of activity last night. 

Also- the article was written by Rachel Bachman- a Michigan graduate who wrote for the Michigan daily when she was on campus.   Not sure how much cred I would give.  

[Cincydawg]

We're in the rumor period, deeply now.  I suspect most of the speculation is no more than that.

"Insiders (unnamed) say that X will happen soon."

In my experience, most stories of that ilk are exaggerated.

[Temp430]

We're in the rumor period, deeply now.  I suspect most of the speculation is no more than that.

"Insiders (unnamed) say that X will happen soon."

In my experience, most stories of that ilk are exaggerated.

That's for sure.  Also rumors of an hours long pissing contest yesterday between the B1G and Michigan where they're still pushing for a suspension prior to any investigation.  Michigan will have no part of that and would seek and injunction.  So, what's going to happen?  Anything from nothing out of Chicago and Ann Arbor to war.  If nothing happens this week I think its safe to say Petitti came to his senses.

[medinabuckeye1]

That's for sure.  Also rumors of an hours long pissing contest yesterday between the B1G and Michigan where they're still pushing for a suspension prior to any investigation.  Michigan will have no part of that and would seek and injunction.  So, what's going to happen?  Anything from nothing out of Chicago and Ann Arbor to war.  If nothing happens this week I think its safe to say Petitti came to his senses.

Are you this deep in denial?

Allowing cheaters to benefit is "coming to senses"?

[Cincydawg]

I read they would be forced to forfeit all bowl wins over the past few years.