2023 Michigan Season Thread

[ELA]

Nobody is questioning that Michigan has good players.  They have always been good over Harbaugh.  But they went from 10-2 good to CFP good.  Of course the cheating didn't turn a crap team into a great team.  But it very clearly appears to be what got them over the hump.  It's not like they would have been 4-8 without it.  But at this point how far does the fruit of the poisonous tree extend.  How many guys committed to the program, players and coaches, based upon the 2021 and 2022 season.  Both the on field results, and the slight boosts players got, which might mean better NFL Draft results?

Failing to cover against Purdue is a bad first look.  Will they finally beat Ohio State clean?  Maybe.  They are a very good team.  But if you really want to prove the cheating doesn't matter, you need to not only be clean, but cut off the fruit of those poisonous branches

[medinabuckeye1]

Speaking of Stroud- he has thrown for 400 yards and 4 tds today- despite being sacked 3 times and harassed all day, and having quite a few passes not count because his lineman got called for holding. 

I watched the end of that game. Led a come-from-behind TD drive in the final minute to get the win and in the process set the NFL rookie single game passing yardage record. 

Yrah, he's pretty good!

[MrNubbz]

I never understand OsU fans when it comes to Stroud. I have good friends that dislike him and call him an osu failure. The guy threw for 350 yards and 2 touchdowns in the game and had a tremendous game. He sucked because OSU lost? Why do you guys continue to say he sucked when he lit it up.

(sigh)Now you're making shit up, really? I've never heard ANYONE say Stroud sucked or was a failure NOBODY Michigan Fans perhaps .I've read MGO many times and they don't agree on half of the crap they discuss but ALL Buckeye fans do? SMDH - BULLSHIT

[MrNubbz]

I watched the end of that game. Led a come-from-behind TD drive in the final minute to get the win and in the process set the NFL rookie single game passing yardage record.

Yrah, he's pretty good!

His accuracy is unbelievable,that last drive he put a 21 yd strike right where only Dell could grab it and get out of bounds with 12 seconds to go on the 19.Clutch and accurate

[SuperMario]

(sigh)Now you're making shit up, really? I've never heard ANYONE say Stroud sucked or was a failure NOBODY Michigan Fans perhaps .I've read MGO many times and they don't agree on half of the crap they discuss but ALL Buckeye fans do? SMDH - BULLSHIT

Come to my office. I’ll give you the address and you’re plenty close. Why would I make that up? Secondly, go read my damn post if you’re going to accuse me. I said I have good friends that said it and HB said he sucked The Game which I disagree he far from sucked. And here’s the screenshot of my response…

[MrNubbz]

What is that neither a name to the poster or recipient - I don't get it.If HB said it it's still in the archives I would have disagreed if I saw that.We all have bad days doesn't mean we suck,specially that kid. So one fan that you know stated CJ sucks and you don't get Ohio St fans - the whole fookin' UM fanbase denied any culpability in the tunnel fights in games the Michigan was suppose to be HOSTING.Won't even bring up Booger hiding the Glock and 3 clips - quit lumping everyone together

[SuperMario]

I will be more clear next time. I don’t get “some” Ohio state fans. SOME really were not huge fans of Stroud, did not like him and felt he let them down in the game and couldn’t win a big one. My screenshot, cropped like that to keep people’s real names off it and throwing them under the bus because they don’t post there, was my reaction to so many texts defending Stroud. I could give you a list of times both last year and this year in the NFL I have raved about Stroud because I thought he was underappreciated by many last year.

Again, my message should have been more clear to not wrap in ALL osu fans.. just more than I expected had crapped on CJ over the last year.

And if you expect other fans not to wrap in ALL osu fans, then try showing the same respect to other fans as well as you went and grouped all Um fans together.

[MrNubbz]

I do I just emphasized that there

[Honestbuckeye]

For the record Nubzz.  I never said he sucked.  I was trying to illustrate the impact to other schools and teams and awards, etc. of potential Michigan cheating.

I said the trophy was Stroud’s to win or lose,  but because Ohio State lost to Michigan he no longer was winning the Heisman. 

SM pointed out that he played well in the game- which to a high degree, he did. 

But if you’re the leading contenders for the Heisman, and you lose “The Game” you lose the trophy.

I have been a humongous Pro Stroud person from his very first start.

[Temp430]

WSJ says the Big Ten to defer to NCAA investigation.  Lynch mob deterred.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/michigan-warns-big-ten-against-disciplining-team-over-sign-stealing-allegations/ar-AA1jqiYp

[SuperMario]

So CJ Stroud, who carved up everyone he played, including the best defense in CFB ( Georgia) and is now carving up teams in the NFL, just sucked that day last year.  

You did say he sucked that day. Just tired of being painted as a guy that makes things up. You could have misspoken, but it was said.

[Honestbuckeye]

You did say he sucked that day. Just tired of being painted as a guy that makes things up. You could have misspoken, but it was said.

Reading comprehension my friend.  It was presented as a sarcastic hypothetical.    

Clearly my way of saying “ yeah- right”. 

[Mdot21]

Nobody is questioning that Michigan has good players.  They have always been good over Harbaugh.  But they went from 10-2 good to CFP good.  Of course the cheating didn't turn a crap team into a great team.  But it very clearly appears to be what got them over the hump.  It's not like they would have been 4-8 without it.  But at this point how far does the fruit of the poisonous tree extend.  How many guys committed to the program, players and coaches, based upon the 2021 and 2022 season.  Both the on field results, and the slight boosts players got, which might mean better NFL Draft results?

Failing to cover against Purdue is a bad first look.  Will they finally beat Ohio State clean?  Maybe.  They are a very good team.  But if you really want to prove the cheating doesn't matter, you need to not only be clean, but cut off the fruit of those poisonous branches

this is a lazy, stupid take.

They went from 10-2 good to CFP good because they got MASSIVE upgrades at the QB position, RB position, OL coach, and DC. JJ McCarthy is likely going to be a 1st rd pick. The last time Michigan had one of those at QB was in 1987. He is LIGHT YEARS better and far more talented than fcking mediocre turds like Jake Rudock or Wilton Speight. Blake Corum and Donovan Edwards are both massive upgrades over backs like De'Veon Smith or Karran Higdon or Chris Evans. The caliber of player they've been playing with in the offensive backfield at QB-RB is LIGHT YEARS above where it has been in the past. Throw on top of that they struck gold with hiring Sherrone Moore in 2021 to coach OL- a guy that is going to be a future HC in the P5 and is maybe the best OL coach in the nation. Then throw on top of that they got rid of Don Brown's bum ass and hired a pair of NFL 3-4 DC's from the Ravens from Jeem's brother.

Give me a fcking break. Failing to cover against Purdue was meaningless. Michigan was covering and up 35 points until Purdue scored a cheap meaningless TD with all it's starters in the game with 18 seconds left in the game. Purdue only scored 6 points in non-garbage time. And they were extremely lucky to get the 6 points they got. Purdue got 3 points because a punt hit a Michigan player in the back and Purdue recovered the ball in the red area and already in FG range. 3 more points came because Jeem decided to go for it on his own 35 yard line on a 4th and 1 with a shotgun dive run and failed to convert.

lazy stupid takes gonna lazy stupid take however.

[Honestbuckeye]

WSJ says the Big Ten to defer to NCAA investigation.  Lynch mob deterred.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/michigan-warns-big-ten-against-disciplining-team-over-sign-stealing-allegations/ar-AA1jqiYp

There is nothing new in this article. One’s letter was sent to the Big - and the other  school presidents- BEFORE he met with commish. According to “ UM insiders” Ono was shown new evidence he was not aware of- said to be “overwhelming.”

what they are saying now is that the big 10 and the University of Michigan brass have been trying to negotiate. They are saying that UM won’t even except a limited suspension of the head coach, and the Big Ten is pushing for an indefinite suspension of the coach. 

They are saying that the law firms hired by Michigan, have been working around the clock to prepare an injunction for when the Big Ten tries to suspend Harbaugh.  They are also saying that they are threatening to turn over “dirt” that they have on all the other schools. 

If you’re going down take everyone down with you- kind of thing. 

The Michigan insiders have been off quite a bit on all of this- so no idea how much of this is true.