2023 Michigan Season Thread

[SuperMario]

To be fair, that was before people knew that Michigan was cheating.

What will happen this year when no excuses will be left on Nov 26th?

[Honestbuckeye]

What will happen this year when no excuses will be left on Nov 26th?

You keep saying that.  Why? 

What does it have to do with having every opponents play calls for the entire 21 season, the entire 22 season, and every opponent this season assuming they stopped doing it versus MSU?

If Michigan wins out does it prove anything about last years games against those opponents

Is beating this years OSU team, sans CJ Stroud, and in Ann Arbor- mean anything relative to last years game?  We’re OSU to win, does it prove anything about last years game?

You can say this needs to play out. Fine.  You can say we don’t know what the coaches knew.  True.

But you’re just going to have to accept that Michigan had its opponents play calls, from advanced in person filming of them- and that is established.  You don’t have the right to tell people who believe that gave Michigan a distinct advantage- that it is an excuse. 
We will never know how those games would have been different- but we absolutely have credibility in  wondering.  If it bothers you that people want to wonder- you’re not thinking objectively.  It is going to be questioned for eternity. 

[medinabuckeye1]

What will happen this year when no excuses will be left on Nov 26th?

Michigan has a very good team this year so they will be favored and if they do win, they'll have two wins over tOSU in the last two decades. 

[SuperMario]

You keep saying that.  Why? 

What does it have to do with having every opponents play calls for the entire 21 season, the entire 22 season, and every opponent this season assuming they stopped doing it versus MSU?

Because nearly every Ohio state fan is claiming Michigan only won the last two years because of this and the wins don’t count. 2021 Michigan basically told osu every play what they were doing and it was running Hassan Haskins right down their throat and they still couldn’t stop it. Oh wait, no it was the weather’s fault. Nope, I got it.. it was weather and Stallions. 

I make statements like that because most osu fans, demonstrated by the post after yours, take the stand that nothing the players did on the field mattered and it was all cheating. So you guys rest on that and we’ll rest on the fact there’s no excuses left for this season’s matchup. 

[MrNubbz]

Because nearly every Ohio state fan is claiming Michigan only won the last two years because of this and the wins don’t count.

I can take the ass kickings it's the hypocrisy that's unbearable. Fucking Harbaugh flaunted gun laws,doesn't report a pending felony,felon gets on an airliner and nothing's done.Again There were posters even a billboard around campus from this asshole prosecutor Eli Savit "If you are driving with a gun illegally, you will go to jail. I am adamant about strict gun control policy. I will put you in prison". What it should of added "unless of course if you play football for Michigan".Three fights in 7 home games in the tunnel,do you really think when the poltroons over on MGO state none of that was on Michigan that anyone outside of that server believes it? Not a damn thing done as the song says - I'm frightened by those that don't see it

[Honestbuckeye]

Because nearly every Ohio state fan is claiming Michigan only won the last two years because of this and the wins don’t count. 2021 Michigan basically told osu every play what they were doing and it was running Hassan Haskins right down their throat and they still couldn’t stop it. Oh wait, no it was the weather’s fault. Nope, I got it.. it was weather and Stallions.

I make statements like that because most osu fans, demonstrated by the post after yours, take the stand that nothing the players did on the field mattered and it was all cheating. So you guys rest on that and we’ll rest on the fact there’s no excuses left for this season’s matchup.

If that lets you sleep at night.  Thinking if your team wins this year/ it somehow justifies what someone (s) at Michigans program did. Fallacy.

I would add that your leaving out all other teams that played UM with one hand tied behind their back.

Lastly- I haven't seen much of what you’re describing; fans saying that’s THE ONLY reason UM won. What I have seen is people, in multiple fan bases, thinking that if it wasn’t a perfectly level playing field, the team with the advantage shouldn’t be awarded with a win.  I can’t dispute that logic.

[SuperMario]

I can take the ass kickings it's the hypocrisy that's unbearable. Fucking Harbaugh flaunted gun laws,doesn't report a pending felony,felon gets on an airliner and nothing's done.Again There were posters even a billboard around campus from this asshole prosecutor Eli Savit "If you are driving with a gun illegally, you will go to jail. I am adamant about strict gun control policy. I will put you in prison". What it should of added "unless of course if you play football for Michigan".Three fights in 7 home games in the tunnel,do you really think when the poltroons over on MGO state none of that was on Michigan that anyone outside of that server believes it? Not a damn thing done as the song says - I'm frightened by those that don't see it

As always, I understand your point and perspective and always appreciate your delivery of the message. Only counter is that some see it and simply don’t want to focus on it. Doesn’t mean they ignore it nor do they think it’s meaningless. 

[SuperMario]

If that lets you sleep at night.  Thinking if your team wins this year/ it somehow justifies what someone (s) at Michigans program did. Fallacy.

I would add that your leaving out all other teams that played UM with one hand tied behind their back.

Lastly- I haven't seen much of what you’re describing; fans saying that’s THE ONLY reason UM won. What I have seen is people, in multiple fan bases, thinking that if it wasn’t a perfectly level playing field, the team with the advantage shouldn’t be awarded with a win.  I can’t dispute that logic.

You don’t see it because you’ve chosen to only see what you want to while accusing M fans for making that exact mistake. So since this is the culture that is now defined here, welcome to part of your creation of unreasonableness. 

[MaximumSam]

Fellas we have actual football on

[Honestbuckeye]

Fellas we have actual football on

If you don’t mind the rational conversation- you can always take a pass. 

[MrNubbz]

As always, I understand your point and perspective and always appreciate your delivery of the message. Only counter is that some see it and simply don’t want to focus on it. Doesn’t mean they ignore it nor do they think it’s meaningless.

Mario when the very prosecutor makes brash statements then doesn't follow thru that is problematic.They flat out ignored the legal and moral applications - so ya meaningless. Then harbaugh calls all 8 of those MSU kids punks but Mazi is a good kid? - 2 months laterSMDH.Honestly I'm surprised the Feds didn't jump on this,there were posters of his get tough on guns talk and there were pictures of his office walls lined with Wolverine memorabelia.Why didn't he recuse himself it's my understanding many attorney's do this if there is an obvious conflict of interest

[Mdot21]

Fellas we have actual football on

Yup! HIDE YO SIGNZZZZ

[MrNubbz]

 don't forget the glock and 3 clips

[Mdot21]

don't forget the glock and 3 clips

Hell yeah