2023 Michigan Season Thread

[Brutus Buckeye]

My bad, I hadn't had my coffee yet. I thought you were Super Mario. 

[847badgerfan]

I advise that we let this whole thing play out. We all know the media generally sucks and all they care about is clicks.

[Temp430]

Frankly, I'm shocked.

In the poll that I created I projected that I thought Harbaugh would be gone before the Purdue game.

I don't like Michigan but I respected them enough as an institution that I thought they would take a stand for the integrity of the game.

Everything you know about this up to yesterday PM was from anonymous leaks.  Michigan is right to resist this BS.  There’s an official process that doesn’t include a lynch mob.  Glad Michigan’s trustees, president, and AD are all supporting Coach Harbaugh.

[MrNubbz]

yeah and Ohio State are just saints. saints I tell ya.

Juwan Howard should've already been fired. But not because he's a thuggish dooshbag. Because he's a shitty basketball coach.

Really just stop your arguments are weaker than Harbaughs integrity. Ohio State loses a coach and vacates wins for tatoos,your coach hides a felony gun charge for 2 months,then said offender boards a domestic flight 3 hrs after the fact. JH also allowed & probably provokes 3 fights with opponents in Ms tunnel whose responsibility it is to Police.Remember Booger lecturing "what a tangled web we weave when we choose to decieve" - LMAO.Scum Bag UofM law professor and AA Prosecutor Eli Savit laugh it off & pleads it down and NOTHING.From the BIG/NCAA & Prosecutor's Office - Ms program should have swung for that

The only difference between M and the Hurrigangstas is Miami has the Hardware

[FearlessF]

yes, but yesterday things got real

Stallions gone and offering lawyer fabricated statements
that's real smoke

[Mdot21]

all I know is I'm going to enjoy the F out of this season because next year Michigan is gonna suck. 

Jeem was already beefing with his AD Warde Manuel and sick of the NCAA- all this crap is gonna do is just push him to the NFL. I'd say it's 99.99% he just leaves after this year and goes to the NFL. 

They are about to lose a ton of players to the NFL draft. JJ McCarthy is gone, and is probably going 1st rd. He'll be the first 1st rd QB taken from Michigan since...1987. Which incidentally, was his coach Jeem. JJ is easily the best QB Michigan has had in 20+ years and not sure they have anyone remotely close to him to replace him. They are going to lose both their RBs- who are also incidentally BOTH the best RB's they've had in like 20 years. And they are going to lose a lot of linemen on offense and defense, both their top WRs in Roman Wilson and Cornelius Johnson. They are just going to lose a ton of players, the head coach, and the schedule is insane in 2024. 

And after they lose probably 15+ players to the NFL draft, their head coach to the NFL, and play the toughest schedule by far in America in 2024 you'll still have a bunch of morons still go...DeRp...dErP...sEe...iT...wAs...dUh sIgNzzzz....DeRp....

[Temp430]

Stalions being fired/resigned is going to clam up and no one can make him talk.  You’ll have to wait for his book.

[SuperMario]

My bad, I hadn't had my coffee yet. I thought you were Super Mario.

Another classy comment.

[MrNubbz]

this guy....as charmin soft as his football coach. Man all I gotta say is Cryin' Ryan better beat Jeem this year or else the BuckNutjobs are going to be at his doorstep with pitchforks.

Well Day has had 5 yrs but had they played in 2020 Booger would have been shown the door IMO. But he's proven invaluable at QBs and WRs but hasn't been hitting the portal well enough for the trenches

[Benthere2]

“I think you sit there and just feel really bad for the players on both sides, because this is really our last chance to teach young people how to go out there and compete and overcome adversity and go through ups and down and highs and lows,” Matt Rhule said. “And you just hope when you do this that no side ever has an advantage over the other that’s not gained and earned appropriately.”

Rhule added that, “I can’t comment on the specifics of this [Michigan case], because I don’t know.”

Still, he made it clear that he sees it as a big problem if Michigan did what it has been accused of doing.

“As we tell parents, ‘We’re going to teach them how to be young men.’ I think the first thing we teach them is integrity and honesty.  But if I ever feel like my guys have been shorted, obviously I’m here to fight for them,” Rhule said. “That would certainly be heartbreaking and disappointing to me, as someone who loves college football. It’s one thing when it’s recruiting, but when we mess with the 60 minutes of the game, that’s really, really, really impacted.”

Nebraska has a real coach and person leading them.  they will be closer to what their fans want then ever with Mr. Frost.  "Dear Ol Nebraska U"

[847badgerfan]

We got football today!!

[Benthere2]

Stalions being fired/resigned is going to clam up and no one can make him talk.  You’ll have to wait for his book.

or on the witness stand taking the 5th

[Mdot21]

Well Day has had 5 yrs but had they played in 2020 Booger would have been shown the door IMO. But he's proven invaluable at QBs and WRs but hasn't been hitting the portal well enough for the trenches

Ohio State has probably the craziest fan base in ‘Merica outside of SEC country. And even then they are in that crazy SEC territory.

If Ryan loses 3 in a row to Jeem- he’s coaching for his job vs Michigan in ‘24.

[Honestbuckeye]

I actually don’t blame the brass at UM for pushing back on the BIG - if Michigan Insiders are accurate in saying the Big and the other ADs want Harbaugh’s head.   They are at best, premature and at worst, over thinking it.  Either way, they are barking up the wrong tree. 

There has not been a single suggestion or “ leak” that suggests Harbaugh was involved, let alone any real evidence.  

The degree to which the coaches were involved- if at all- truly deserves a full investigation- however long that takes. You simply can’t personally punish coaches if you don’t have absolute facts to justify it. 

I am confident that this “ overwhelming evidence” ( again, quoting Michigan insiders, not media) that this was a wide ranging, sophisticated sign stealing/ advance scouting operation still does not implicate the Head coach- because if it did, there is no way the UM brass could stand behind him. 

Now one might say- if he didn’t know, he should have.  A credible question- but again, that is pure speculation. 

Did CS buy these tickets to 35 games at 17 different stadiums over the last 2.5 seasons, and either hire or attend in person to film the future opponent’s signs?  That is the more urgent question due to its impact on the current season. 

I have yet to hear anyone deny that. I think there is clear and obvious evidence of that-that is indisputable. It is my belief that the evidence of this was collected by the NCAA, and now shared with the Big.  Even Michigan fans are elated that CS won’t “ sing like a canary”.  Because they know he could potentially implicate coaches in the scheme.  There is no more investigating needed to answer this part of it. You have coaches and ADs all over the place that are saying publicly they have seen the receipts and the video.  You have people admitting they were paid to record signals of Michigan opponents.  

So that leaves the question of what if anything can be done about it. 

Michigan fans can argue all they want that this did not provide an advantage during games. But that has and will continue to fall on deaf ears    The coaches at the other schools- and just common sense- tells you the answer. 

So if this advance scouting and signal stealing provided a competitive advantage on even one signal play- the game results are tainted. 

It is my opinion that all of UMs wins in 21, 22 and up to MSU this year, will eventually be vacated. There really isn’t much choice.  

I know most Um fans don’t give a rip about that. They just want finish out this season.  I am highly confident they will get there wish. 

The other thing that might come up in the bigger investigation by the feckless NCAA, is potential Loss of Institutional Control.  

Michigan has recently parted ways with 4 football staff members for:

-computer crimes
-racist comments 
-pedophile activity ( alleged) 
- advance scouting/ signal stealing. 

I think we are in for a long ride.  Then we can wait for the Netflix Documentary to be released and can argue about all of this- all over again