2023 Michigan Season Thread

[Mdot21]

Dude.  Let it go.  Every single player and coach that got cheated disagrees with you. They are just not aloud to talk right now. That’s obvious.

If it isn’t a big deal to video a teams signs in person, and have them to study - why did Michigan do it 35 times in 2 1/2 seasons?  Why did they have a schedule for it and a budget? Why are they claiming no knowledge of it? Why did their bigger opponents get video recorded multiple times ?

Any coach who is honest about it and disagrees with us a “ douche” or a “ cumstain”?

And please stop YOUR incessant WHINING about Ryan Day.  It is base in your deflection of getting caught cheating- and has no basis in fact- and not one shred of evidence.  So Ironic- your the one who is constantly crying!

Nah thanks.

Schiano has always been as asshat doosh and Nuehisel is a weasel and a literal cumstain. Has nothing to do with this situation at all. That's just who those people are.

I am not whining about born on 3rd base. That's just what he is- a soft pussy. Which is why his teams have for the most part been soft. I'm sure he's mad as hell because his ass is literally on the line. If he loses a 3rd in a row to Michigan....those nutjobs in Columbus are going to be all over his ass. His seat is going to be scorching white hot. And if he lost a 4th in a row in 2024 by some way- he's probably fired. He's feeling scared, feeling nervous, feeling the pressure. I don't blame him. That OSU job is a pressure cooker like few others in CFB. 

[Honestbuckeye]

Ryan Day has zero known involvement or crying.

Michigan has not been proven to have cheated.

The arguments against both those statements are flawed and false until facts prove otherwise.

I have to disagree.  Nobody is refuting that Stalions purchased the tickets, recorded the signs and plays, and uploaded them.  

Under any interpretation of the rules, that is cheating.   

[Mdot21]

https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1718447278912926127?s=20

[MrNubbz]

Portnoy a bigger slappy than Bacon or webb.Looking for clicks

[SuperMario]

I have to disagree.  Nobody is refuting that Stalions purchased the tickets, recorded the signs and plays, and uploaded them. 

Under any interpretation of the rules, that is cheating. 

Under any interpretation? Many attorneys will disagree. Therefore the NCAA will eventually go away quietly.

[Honestbuckeye]

Under any interpretation? Many attorneys will disagree. Therefore the NCAA will eventually go away quietly.

Do you disagree?

[Honestbuckeye]

Thankfully I spoke to my daughter today.  A UM grad and AVID Michigan football fan

Had not spoken to her since this all started- she is in Denver and works a lot of hours/ nights in anesthesiology. 

I was not going to bring it up- she is a happy, optimistic “ the world is my oyster” kind of person.

But she brought it up after telling me all her exciting stuff that’s she has going on.

She just said her and dozens of UM friends are totally embarrassed.  She pointed out that she has heard all of the deflection and excuses, including the “it didn’t give them a big advantage.”

Her take was- if it did give them a big advantage- they are big cheaters. If it only gave them a small advantage- they are stupid cheaters. But either way- the most embarrassing thing was hearing all of the online chatter defending/deflecting/excusing/ rationalizing the cheating.  She just wants them to be accountable for what they did, clean it up, and move on.

It was enlightening talking to a responsible adult about it.  Made me proud- we raised her right. 

[betarhoalphadelta]

Under any interpretation? Many attorneys will disagree. Therefore the NCAA will eventually go away quietly.

Attorneys will disagree to the extent that they can legally stretch the bounds of plausibility if you pay them enough. 

But what part of 'no advance in person scouting of future opponents' coupled with a Michigan staffer buying tickets and having people go into stadiums, record the opposing sideline, and upload video to a server he maintained does not violate that rule? It is advanced, in-person scouting of future opponents. 

We can argue how much benefit they got from it. We can argue if it was a rogue staffer or if this was known and approved up the chain. 

But I don't see anyone arguing he didn't do it, or that he wasn't employed by Michigan and directing this activity, or that it wasn't advanced in-person scouting. Seems pretty clear-cut to me. 

OSU fans--can you make sure Day has my Venmo? I keep arguing in this thread as a neutral and I haven't gotten my payments yet???

[Mdot21]

https://twitter.com/Johnubacon/status/1719469693256253643?s=20

[Honestbuckeye]

https://twitter.com/Johnubacon/status/1719469693256253643?s=20

Hope this is true.  

[Mdot21]

Hope this is true. 

if JUB is reporting it, it's true.

[SuperMario]

Do you disagree?

We don’t know facts yet, but every person willing to say Michigan is a cheater is acting like they know all the facts. So yes, I disagree until more comes out and constantly reading they are cheaters makes me shake my head. Calling them cheaters while acting like the team you root for isn’t a part of signing stealing and version of “cheating” is laughable. What’s ironic is you are trying to justify Michigan’s version of “cheating” is just worse than your schools version of “cheating.”

Maybe Michigan just found a flaw in a rule and exposed it. If that is reality, it’s not cheating no matter how many times you say it and not a single person here taking one side or another know all the facts.

[Honestbuckeye]

We don’t know facts yet, but every person willing to say Michigan is a cheater is acting like they know all the facts. So yes, I disagree until more comes out and constantly reading they are cheaters makes me shake my head. Calling them cheaters while acting like the team you root for isn’t a part of signing stealing and version of “cheating” is laughable. What’s ironic is you are trying to justify Michigan’s version of “cheating” is just worse than your schools version of “cheating.”

Maybe Michigan just found a flaw in a rule and exposed it. If that is reality, it’s not cheating no matter how many times you say it and not a single person here taking one side or another know all the facts.

Wow.  Ok.  The team I root for is going to opponents games, and taping their signals.   I think I have actually heard it all now.  

[SuperMario]

Wow.  Ok.  The team I root for is going to opponents games, and taping their signals.  I think I have actually heard it all now. 

Wow Ohio state has never had a version of cheating. I’ve heard it all now.