2023 Michigan Season Thread

[MrNubbz]

[medinabuckeye1]

Yeah. I do. People obsessively posting pictures memes and links might as well head over to barstool. I’ll stick to conversations about travel and food with the guys here still worthy of respect.

Before I call you and several other Michigan posters "unworthy of respect", I'll let this sink in for a while. I don't think you guys are actually this bad, I think you are just in denial.

While I do that why don't you look through this thread and ignore @Honestbuckeye , @MaximumSam , @medinabuckeye1 , and the rest of us tOSU posters and the Michigan posters as well.

I've never known @betarhoalphadelta to show anti-Michigan bias. In this thread he said this was vacated wins and show cause level stuff.

@ELA grew up a Michigan guy, in a Michigan household. He just called this like it is. I don't think that was easy for him.

I try to look at situations like this (and tattoos) and ask myself what my opinion would be if this was a school I was completely neutral on.

With tattoos I did that and concluded that I'd feel that while the underlying violation was silly and small, the HC had to go because he knew. That helped me to avoid the trap of clinging to the "silly and small" part like a lot of tOSU fans did.

When I look at this and ask myself how I'd feel if this was a school I was neutral on, I'd say that if the allegations are true, this is the biggest cheating scandal in modern CFB history and they need to be hammered. If you are honest, you'll agree.

[medinabuckeye1]

What say you?

[LittlePig]

There are 3 competing arguments I would say.

1). Meh,  Harbaugh did cheat but let's not over_react  The rule against sending scouts to  opposing teams stadiums should not even exist.  As for stealing other teams signs,  everybody tries to do that.  It's a "sign". that FBS football is long overdue to installing radios in QB"s helmets like the NFL does.  Harbaugh deserves a fine and maybe a short suspension and that's it.  Move on. Harbaugh is going to be at Michigan forever

2). Harbaugh more than once has been exposed as a cheater.  How many times does he need to be caught?  Penalties need to escalate for each violation and its time for him to go.

3). Harbaugh will receive a small fine and suspension,  but he is tired of the NCAA's B. S.  He will finally leave Michigan at the end of the season taking a job in the NFL.

[Mdot21]

that was a good one...i chuckled.

[Mdot21]

Hey good memes are the best part of any scandal

100%

[Mdot21]

This is easily the biggest cheating scandal in modern sports. 

Shaving points is one guy.  Paying a guy to come to your school- the guy is on your roster before any game is played.

This is organized, scheduled in game cheating on every play.  The integrity of the game is out the window. 

UM has beaten The spread at a sustained rate never before seen, during this stretch. 

Their last 2 playoff games- where they didn’t have the plays- they were beaten in embarrassing fashion.

And please don’t call this circumstantial evidence.  The tickets were purchased- and they have the receipts.  They have video proof of recording their future opponents signals.  Now( if Washington Post is true) they have proof on Michigan computers that this was all planned, budgeted and paid for by coaches and assistants, and plenty of video proof that this “ signal savant”
Was feeding info, in game, to both UM’s coordinators.    Nothing circumstantial about that.

The hammer will come down.  It has to. 

It may take a while, but it will. 

yeah, not even remotely close. hyperbole much? why don't you listen to the littany of former players and current coaches who say this is a nothing burger. ever heard of Pats accused of taping other teams practices and spygate? 

you are going to be sorely disappointed when very little comes from this. 

[Mdot21]

NCAA hasn't brought a notice of allegations forward to Michigan and won't for at least a couple of months or more. All they've done is announced that there is an investigation and let their minions in the fake news media leak unsubstantiated uncorroborated report after report citing "anonymous sources".

Jeem ain't going anywhere anytime soon. He's going to finish the season and then bolt for the NFL where he doesn't have to deal with all this bullshit and nonsense that is the NCAA, NIL, portal, a retard AD in Warde Manuel, boosters/fundraising, recruiting dipshit entitled 16-18 year old snot nosed dumbass bastard kids who all think they're hot shit and gods gift to earth, etc., etc..

Jeem will be off to the pros and Michigan will probably get a slap on the wrist and that will be that.

[Temp430]

Just what I thought.  Someone on at the NCAA with an axe to grind over Coach Harbaugh that’s leaking all this BS.  Wish I could attend the meeting between Michigan and the NCAA.  Michigan’s AD Manuel better chew some ass and defend the football program.

[Cincydawg]

Here is a guess, this will "take a while" with a drip drip drip of "new news" (a lot of which is nothing).  By the season's end, Harbaugh has had enough of it and bolts.  I don't know if the conference will act sooner, they could suspend coaches/pending, as this individual is already suspended.  

MSU dumped Tucker pretty fast, I'd guess he's suing, but that could happen here depending.

[Honestbuckeye]

Just what I thought.  Someone on at the NCAA with an axe to grind over Coach Harbaugh that’s leaking all this BS.  Wish I could attend the meeting between Michigan and the NCAA.  Michigan’s AD Manuel better chew some ass and defend the football program.

Just what you thought?  You have been blaming Ohio State this whole time.  

it does sound like there is either someone with an ax to grind- or more likely- a former employee (Gattis or Weiss?)

But the”Bs” they are leaking seems factual. 

Doesn’t it bother you that this was going on?

[MrNubbz]

Jeem ain't going anywhere anytime soon. He's going to finish the season and then bolt for the NFL where he doesn't have to deal with all this bullshit and nonsense that is the NCAA, NIL, portal, a retard AD in Warde Manuel, boosters/fundraising, recruiting dipshit entitled 16-18 year old snot nosed dumbass bastard kids who all think they're hot shit and gods gift to earth, etc., etc..

So in other words the same kids UofM and everyone else has recruited

[Mdot21]

So in other words the same kids UofM and everyone else has recruited

yeah, recruiting has to absolutely suck. it’s worse now that it’s ever been.

[Mdot21]

MSU dumped Tucker pretty fast, I'd guess he's suing, but that could happen here depending.

Tucker wasn’t performing like Jeem has been. Lot of people at MSU were eager to get out of that albatross of a horrific contract for a mediocre .500 coach without paying his $80 million buyout.

Add that on top of the sexual abuse scandal at MSU and this being a sexual harassment case- which is FAR more serious than sign stealing (which EVERYONE does) and that explains why Tugger was out pretty quickly at MSU. They are not comparable situations. At all.