2023 Michigan Season Thread

[Honestbuckeye]

https://twitter.com/TheHerd/status/1716875472641098020?s=20

Such a stupid take.

If your signals are bad enough to be figured out on game day by the opposing team that you’re fucking problem. 

But when you send people into your stadium to record your plays and signs and have plenty of time to study them ahead of time, so you clearly know what the other team is running, that is huge cheating and there’s no place for that in the game. It’s disgusting and people defending it are disgusting

[SuperMario]

Such a stupid take.

If your signals are bad enough to be figured out on game day by the opposing team that you’re fucking problem.

But when you send people into your stadium to record your plays and signs and have plenty of time to study them ahead of time, so you clearly know what the other team is running, that is huge cheating and there’s no place for that in the game. It’s disgusting and people defending it are disgusting

Imagine if people got this upset when players were paid for fake jobs to ensure they went to a certain school. Those things didn’t impact outcomes or successes of programs at all.

[Honestbuckeye]

Imagine if people got this upset when players were paid for fake jobs to ensure they went to a certain school. Those things didn’t impact outcomes or successes of programs at all.

Agreed.  This is the first, only, and worst case I have ever seen in memory that actually affects very specifically the outcome of a game.  

[SuperMario]

Agreed.  This is the first, only, and worst case I have ever seen in memory that actually affects very specifically the outcome of a game. 

Do you think no one else steals signs?

[Honestbuckeye]

Do you think no one else steals signs?

I KNOW the team I cheer for does not send people to opponent’s games to tape their signs, and study them.  I know they don’t know the opponent play before it is ran. 

do I think teams, during game day try to understand and interpret the signs of their opponent?  Of course.  But that won’t get most people super far. In order to make that very effective you need to study, which of the two or three signal colors are being paid attention to, what are the trends, what did they change to the last game, etc..  

[SuperMario]

You’re right. No chance osu ever did this:

https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2023/04/14/urban-meyer-had-a-coach-on-staff-at-ohio-state-that-watched-michigan-year-round-thats-all-he-did/

[ELA]

Like I said in the basketball thread.  College football and basketball are just tv properties now.

It's why when the Adidas scandal broke, Kansas = no tourney ban; Louisville = no tourney ban; Arizona = no tourney ban.  Oklahoma State = tourney ban

The NCAA might come back after the fact and make Michigan take down some banners, or Harbaugh forfeit some wins.  But do you honestly think ESPN paid all this money for the CFP to see Michigan be banned from it?

Hell no.  I can say with 99% certainty that whatever comes from this, Michigan will not be punished in any way that hurts the tv networks

[MrNubbz]

I haven't licked a stamp in decades

Or a Beer Cart Attendee for that matter

[Honestbuckeye]

You’re right. No chance osu ever did this:

https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2023/04/14/urban-meyer-had-a-coach-on-staff-at-ohio-state-that-watched-michigan-year-round-thats-all-he-did/

Yes. He watched their games on tv and their film.
He did not go to their games and record their play signals. I can’t believe you’re trying to make a comparison. 

[ELA]

Or a Beer Cart Attendee for that matter

Please, the Beer Cart Attendee is her mother, call her the Cart Girl.

So two summers I worked at a Country Club as a bartender.  One of our cart girls quit to take an internship.  They only used one in the fall, so rather than hire one for the final 6 weeks of summer, they just had other employees rotate through.  You want to see some pissed off rich dudes?  Have me roll up on a bar cart.

[SuperMario]

Yes. He watched their games on tv and their film.
He did not go to their games and record their play signals. I can’t believe you’re trying to make a comparison.

You don’t know that. You literally have zero proof of that. Michigan played an angle to win. That’s the comparisons I’m making because you’re acting like OsU never is in the gray area. If you truly believe that, I’m sure you think Tressel is teaching choir practice every night while Urban is teaching marriage counseling at his church.

[MrNubbz]

Are you buckeye fans serious?

So everyone's the same,huh? But if you want to go back to Fielding Yost who used stevedores and constrution workers on the roster who never saw the inside of a library,okay


This from JEEM Himself
https://www.espn.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&sportCat=ncf&id=2966536
https://www.espn.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&sportCat=ncf&id=2966536
by Pat Forde
But here's what nobody is discussing: whether Harbaugh spoke the truth when he called out Michigan for admitting "borderline guys" and for steering athletes toward softer majors than the general student population.

The hard numbers seem to be on Joltin' Jim's side.
All it takes to see that is a scan of the 2007 Michigan media guide. Only 30 players have listed majors, and 19 of them are pursuing degrees in something called "general studies." That's 20 percent of the team, and 63 percent of the players who have declared a major.
Yet a university spokesman said this week that less than 1 percent of the undergraduate student body is in the general studies degree program. The spokesman said there are fewer than 200 general studies students out of an undergrad population of nearly 25,000.

And that's not all. Only one junior has declared a major, according to the guide (in movement science). In 18 years of covering college athletics, I've never seen virtually an entire junior class without a major.

And it wasn't only Buckeye fans
Notre Dame’s first win against Michigan came in 1909, a win that caused the Detroit Free Press to write “Eleven Fighting Irishmen wrecked the Yost machine this afternoon. Three sons of Erin, individually and collectively representing the University of Notre Dame, not only beat the Michigan team, but dashed some of Michigan’s greatest hopes and shattered Michigan’s fairest dreams.” Yost, ever gracious in defeat, cancelled the next year’s game and then refused to schedule Notre Dame for the rest of his career at Michigan. Which meant that Notre Dame didn’t play Michigan again until 1942, when Yost was gone and Elmer Layden and wartime restrictions put the local rivals together once more.

[Mdot21]

gotta love the cope from OSU fans that can't take Michigan beating their dicks in 2 years in a row. 

If Jeem does it to them again and born on 3rd base Ryan is 0-fer-3 be prepared to never hear the end of the crying. 

[Mdot21]

Like I said in the basketball thread.  College football and basketball are just tv properties now.

It's why when the Adidas scandal broke, Kansas = no tourney ban; Louisville = no tourney ban; Arizona = no tourney ban.  Oklahoma State = tourney ban

The NCAA might come back after the fact and make Michigan take down some banners, or Harbaugh forfeit some wins.  But do you honestly think ESPN paid all this money for the CFP to see Michigan be banned from it?

Hell no.  I can say with 99% certainty that whatever comes from this, Michigan will not be punished in any way that hurts the tv networks

you're probably right, and if little comes from this entire fiasco the crying will never end from the Buckeyes. 

Ryan Day and that fan base might be on suicide watch if Jeem pummels them for a 3rd year in a row.