2023 Michigan Season Thread

[MrNubbz]

Don't forget teabagging. 

WHA? Who doin' dat that's an SEC I just don't want to watch anymore

[MrNubbz]

hope Jeem stole all of OSU's signs 

Those who stay… will be on probation.

[Temp430]

The Buckeyes changed their signs before The Game last year.


1420 days since Ohio State last beat Michigan in football.

[MrNubbz]

That doesn't include the 2020 chicken out

[Honestbuckeye]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38698092/what-do-accusations-mean-michigan-football-jim-harbaugh


Ole 2-5 Jim.  😂😂

[SuperMario]

This is a weird topic. I didn’t even know teams couldn’t watch future opponents in person because of a 1994 rule that was put into place for monetary reasons. Secondly, to believe other teams haven’t done this is foolish. There’s a reason teams like Oregon started using odd pictures to call plays. Lastly, it’s even weirder to claim Michigan is only winning because Harbaugh is cheating. It’s a huge disservice to some of their talent that has filled the rosters the last couple years and currently.

All that being said, it’s a shame if they are breaking a rule.. although one that is likely extremely outdated. What’s sad is that college football has been on a terrible path the last 10 years and will no longer look like what I grew up with.

[FearlessF]

1994 is outdated?

and for what monetary reason?

Heck, back in 94 the Husker O-linemen were telling the defense.  We're running the same play as last time.  You can't stop it.

[ELA]

and for what monetary reason?

Not all schools could afford to send scouts all over the country for scouting purposes, and those that could were kind of happy to have it banned so they didn't have to pay for it anymore without losing an advantage

[betarhoalphadelta]

There’s a reason teams like Oregon started using odd pictures to call plays.

I thought that wasn't to avoid sign stealing, but more to get the playcall in faster than could be done verbally when they were running the HUNH offense. 

[Honestbuckeye]

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2023/10/141866/ohio-state-changed-things-up-against-michigan-due-to-teams-alleged-sign-stealing-spearheaded-by-connor-stalions


Seems like is very well known among big ten coaches.   

That also means it had very little impact since they most often had time change it up.  

[SuperMario]

1994 is outdated?

Do you honestly think college football looks anything like it did in 1994?

I thought that wasn't to avoid sign stealing, but more to get the playcall in faster than could be done verbally when they were running the HUNH offense.

there could be more to it, but.. https://www.espn.com/espn/page2/story?sportCat=ncf&page=hruby/110107_oregon_ducks_signs
https://www.espn.com/espn/page2/story?sportCat=ncf&page=hruby/110107_oregon_ducks_signs

[medinabuckeye1]

Wouldn't a helmet communications system to QB avoid all if this?

[ELA]

Wouldn't a helmet communications system to QB avoid all if this?

Apparently that voids the warranty on the helmets and opens them up to lawsuits, and becomes again, very expensive for smaller schools

[medinabuckeye1]

I get it.  NIL and the transfer portal are what seem likely to do me in.  They've both pushed the sport toward being just NFL-lite, imo.  I could be just getting older, but I can't keep track of the kids at all the positions anymore.  We sign a class, but after a year half of them are gone to another school, and their half has been replaced by a slew of kids from schools around the country.  Call me naive, but when I was growing up I could reasonably believe that kids came to BR because they wanted to represent the state and loved the program.  I don't think that's the case anymore.  Half of them come because they think it's a good NFL pipeline, and half of them leave because we're behind the curve in NIL $.  Most don't care about the program or representing Louisiana athletics, I think.

We are getting pretty far OT for this thread but I agree.

I miss watching individuals and classes develop and improve as Buckeyes. Instead I see a tOSU recruit win a Heisman and an NC as a Tiger and another has a win over Bama as a Longhorn. It is just weird.