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Topic: 2023 Michigan Season Thread

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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #182 on: January 24, 2023, 03:39:05 PM »
I still don't understand it, really.  I know TCU might have been "just happy to be here", but 56-7?

They beat Michigan, somehow, a la App State I reckon.
ish happens. TCU could play that game vs Michigan 100 times and might win once. Just so happens they won the one time. Says more about Jeem's failure of getting his team ready to play and some of the god awful calls/coaching decisions he made during that game than anything imo. And Jeem has a track record of failing to get his team ready to play in big games and coming up short and failing- the last 2 years vs OSU notwithstanding. He's the ultimate ALMOST coach. 

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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #183 on: January 24, 2023, 03:54:23 PM »
I didn't follow.....can you re-phrase this? 
The talent gap in college football among the very top teams and everyone else is WIDE.  That used to be balanced by the fact that if one of those teams had their C game at the wrong time, they'd be done.  You had 11 regular season games, and a bowl game.  You lost 1, that might be it.

A less talented team could get to the top, by playing their A games in the games they had to play their A games.  And the little bit of randomness might reward them

Now you have so many additional chances, the last 3 of which (CCG, CFP semi, CFP final) are so high stakes that it seems unlikely a team plays well below their capabilities, that all the CFP has done is removed the randomness of losing a road game at #17 NC State impacting anything.

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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #184 on: February 05, 2023, 09:57:48 AM »
sounds like Chris Partridge may be making his way back to Michigan. Huge news for Jeem if true. Partridge was the best 'crooter that the booger eating weirdo ever hired. Would be a nice shot in the arm to M's 'crootin. So would Jeem signing a long term iron clad deal and stop flirting with the NFL every fkn off-season too though. 

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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #185 on: February 05, 2023, 10:25:15 AM »
Is there an obvious replacement for Booger on the current staff?

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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #186 on: February 05, 2023, 10:35:26 AM »
Is there an obvious replacement for Booger on the current staff?


Probably not. I think Moore would be first in line, esp if Minter bounces back to the NFL.

Personally, I think if it were to happen, Ben Herbert should be the guy. Real strong background for success there. 

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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #187 on: February 05, 2023, 10:38:05 AM »
Ha!
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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #188 on: February 05, 2023, 01:22:01 PM »
Sherrone Moore is the obvious on staff choice

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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #189 on: February 05, 2023, 01:33:12 PM »
Would they stay in-house?
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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #190 on: February 05, 2023, 02:55:04 PM »
Would they stay in-house?
I would assume no, but I think Moore is worth consideration.  If he had a Michigan connection, I'd kind of prefer him to go take a mid-major head coaching job, and see how he does.  But he's from Kansas, played for Oklahoma.  No reason to assume he would naturally come back

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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #191 on: February 06, 2023, 01:37:19 PM »
Is there an obvious replacement for Booger on the current staff?


No. Moot point. Booger eater ain’t leaving any time soon. His flirtation with the NFL is a leverage/power play for a better contract and to push the AD he doesn’t like out imo. Once the ncaa dust settles he’s going to get a fat contract and a new AD. 

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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #192 on: February 06, 2023, 01:37:53 PM »
Chris Partridge back officially now. 

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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #193 on: February 06, 2023, 01:50:14 PM »
No. Moot point. Booger eater ain’t leaving any time soon. His flirtation with the NFL is a leverage/power play for a better contract and to push the AD he doesn’t like out imo. Once the ncaa dust settles he’s going to get a fat contract and a new AD.
I wonder if Booger wants to be the AD, ala Bo. 
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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #194 on: February 06, 2023, 01:54:09 PM »
Once your team gets on the cusp, as it were, but doesn't win "it", fans obviously will get antsy and ambitious.  Going 10-3 won't get'er done now.

TCU fans must be feeling rather weird.

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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #195 on: February 06, 2023, 02:02:14 PM »
The talent gap in college football among the very top teams and everyone else is WIDE.  That used to be balanced by the fact that if one of those teams had their C game at the wrong time, they'd be done.  You had 11 regular season games, and a bowl game.  You lost 1, that might be it.

A less talented team could get to the top, by playing their A games in the games they had to play their A games.  And the little bit of randomness might reward them

Now you have so many additional chances, the last 3 of which (CCG, CFP semi, CFP final) are so high stakes that it seems unlikely a team plays well below their capabilities, that all the CFP has done is removed the randomness of losing a road game at #17 NC State impacting anything.
This, exactly this.

The modern system has dramatically reduced the stakes of those ho-hum, week-in and week-out top-4 vs #17 type games.

Back in the pre-BCS era and to a somewhat lesser extent  when tOSU had a potential NC team, every week was high-stakes because a random mid-season loss to MSU (see 1998) could completely derail a NC. Now even a loss to Michigan in a top-4 matchup can still leave my team with a chance (see 2022).

I always said that a big part of the "luck" involved in winning an NC in the old days was having your "off week" against a team bad enough that you could get away with it.

Example:
In 1968 Ohio State went 10-0 and won the NC but, surprisingly, they only beat Illinois by a TD and they had an even closer escape against Michigan State. Illinois and Michigan State finished 1-9 and 5-5 respectively. If Ohio State had played that poorly against SMU, PU, or M (finished 8-3, 8-2, and 8-2 respectively) they'd have lost and Penn State would have won the NC.

This past season Georgia had an off game against Mizzou and barely pulled out a win but it really didn't matter. If they had lost the only difference would have been that they'd have been the #2 seed (behind Michigan) but it wouldn't have even changed the match-ups because if Michigan and Georgia would have been 1/2, the Committee would have flipped 3/4 to avoid the tOSU/M rematch so instead of:
  • #1 UGA vs #4 tOSU and
  • #2 M vs #3 TCU
We instead would have seen:
  • #2 UGA vs #3 tOSU and
  • #1 M vs #4 TCU


 

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