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Topic: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness

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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #546 on: January 09, 2024, 09:13:55 AM »
Michigan played like their hair was on fire is the only reason they won.  ;) 

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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #547 on: January 09, 2024, 09:20:23 AM »
Okay, I'll piss in the cornflakes.

I'm kinda disappointed with last night's game. 

Michigan's defense did great, so they're off the hook here.  Washington's defense did as well as I think they're capable of, after the first quarter, so while not spectacular, they're off the hook too. 

I would like to see Michigan go balls to the wall on offense.  Their drive to go up 27-13 near the end was a thing of beauty.  This, after Washington had adjusted their alignment and sold out to stop the run for 2.5 quarters.  They were begging Michigan to turn McCarthy loose.  I just want to see it.  I know that's not how Michigan wants to play their games, but I want to see what they can do when they decide "Screw it, screw ball control, we're gonna go score every drive."  Moore's play designs are brilliant, the timing of his playcalls were masterful in both playoff games.  I just want to see him unleash the full fury non-stop so we can all see what's really in there under Michigan's hood. 

On the other side, Penix and his receivers nerf'd something fierce.  Michigan won like 70% of the plays while on defense, by which I mean they either forced the shallow screens or they covered well and closed off the run lanes and forced UW to have unproductive plays.  That 30% of the time when UW "won" the play design and created opportunities, I lost count of how many balls Penix sailed or under-threw, and when he got it there, the receivers couldn't make basic grabs.  Although it's still a small handful of plays, that's what teams like Washington are built on, and they change the course of games.  I guess what I'm saying is, when Michigan wasn't beating UW on a play, I would like to have seen UW not beat themselves on the play.  Granted, maybe Penix was playing hurt.  And the duress he was under on many plays probably got in his head and gave him the yips even when he wasn't under duress.  But I expected better from him. 

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All that said, big congrats to Michigan for an undefeated season.  I can nitpick anything, but I can never fault a team for doing exactly what they need to do, and that's precisely what Michigan did.  And I have to be fair and admit that I really enjoyed the tons of outstanding defense Michigan displayed on so many plays.  In an era of explosive offenses where defense seems like the red-headed stepchild, Michigan has been enjoyable to watch this year.  The defensive performance last night was quite something. 

All said, it's felt for a while now like Michigan was the one team with no glaring weaknesses, thus, the most complete team.  So by extension, it feels like the right team won this year.  Cheers, Michigan fans!  Hope y'all enjoy this for months and years to come.  

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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #548 on: January 09, 2024, 09:37:49 AM »

I would like to see Michigan go balls to the wall on offense.  Their drive to go up 27-13 near the end was a thing of beauty.  This, after Washington had adjusted their alignment and sold out to stop the run for 2.5 quarters.  They were begging Michigan to turn McCarthy loose.  I just want to see it.  I know that's not how Michigan wants to play their games, but I want to see what they can do when they decide "Screw it, screw ball control, we're gonna go score every drive."  Moore's play designs are brilliant, the timing of his playcalls were masterful in both playoff games.  I just want to see him unleash the full fury non-stop so we can all see what's really in there under Michigan's hood. 

This isn’t pissing in cornflakes. In fact, I think a lot of Michigan fans would completely agree. I want to see what they could do.. like similar to quarter 1. Washington adjusted in q2, so adjust and spread the field and get JJ mobile and stop running and sitting him in the pocket over and over. They almost lost against Bama for not opening it up sooner. Your post is spot it. It was a great win, but I found myself annoyed at offensive play calling for a large part of thr middle of the the

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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #549 on: January 09, 2024, 09:42:38 AM »
Congratulations, Michigan football!

Professor Ehrhardt, my torts professor at FSU, in 1980, was outstanding at leading the class in the Socratic method, which involves constantly asking questions and pointing at class members to give answers. In1980, during rivalry week, his class started out with the question, "What do Ohio State University, and University of Florida have in common?"

Any guesses, given the year involved - 1980?


sorry, you told this story in the past, but I don't remember the punch line
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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #550 on: January 09, 2024, 09:46:07 AM »
game would have really been a barnburner if Penix and his receivers would have played like they did vs the Horns

some credit for that to the Michigan defense
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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #551 on: January 09, 2024, 09:51:28 AM »
This isn’t pissing in cornflakes. In fact, I think a lot of Michigan fans would completely agree. I want to see what they could do.. like similar to quarter 1. Washington adjusted in q2, so adjust and spread the field and get JJ mobile and stop running and sitting him in the pocket over and over. They almost lost against Bama for not opening it up sooner. Your post is spot it. It was a great win, but I found myself annoyed at offensive play calling for a large part of thr middle of the the

So, question for Michigan fans.  This is obviously Harbaugh's preferred path, but do you think it's also Moore's?  Suppose Moore had complete free reign to design a game plan and call a game in any way he felt like.  Do you think it would open up more, or would he keep doing what he's doing?  

It's a purely speculative and hypothetical question, but, it may have some bearing in the real world, as JH is always an enigma wrapped in a conundrum as far as his job permanence, and, supposing he were to move on at some point, then imo Michigan already has their next coach on staff.  Seems to me Moore did a great job in JH's absence this year and it wouldn't surprise me if he got the gig, and I think that would be a good move on their part.  

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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #552 on: January 09, 2024, 09:55:36 AM »
Congrats to Michigan and fans!
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #553 on: January 09, 2024, 10:14:14 AM »
Has anyone else noticed that Penix throws like Uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite?

Congrats to Big Blue. 

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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #554 on: January 09, 2024, 10:16:46 AM »
yup, it's why I don't want the Vikings to draft Penix
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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #555 on: January 09, 2024, 10:23:21 AM »


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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #556 on: January 09, 2024, 10:41:09 AM »
I went to bed after the pick, but great job Michigan bringing the title back up north. Kind of cool how the 4 team playoffs began and ended in much the same way with OSU and Michigan.
that is actually pretty cool

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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #557 on: January 09, 2024, 11:33:59 AM »
JJ - should return. He’s not ready for the nfl at all. Great kid. Throws a great ball. Cannot read defense.
agree 100%. he has the height (6'3ish), plus athleticism for the position, and a really good arm- but he ain't ready for the NFL. He has the raw tools necessary, but needs the polish. He needs to put on some more bulk (at least 10ish pounds) and he needs to learn how to read defenses and process better.

IF JJ comes back and keeps working on his game and IF they can convince Donovan Edwards to come back and be the lead back and actually use him- Michigan will have a shot at repeating- even if Jeem leaves- so long as they promote Sherrone Moore to HC and give Jesse Minter a FAT pay raise to stay on as DC.

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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #558 on: January 09, 2024, 11:36:55 AM »
May not have the line next season so no chance to have time to do so.Stock will never be higher ask Cardale,absolutely on a 3 game tear throwing darts. Promised his old coach in Cleveland he'd come back and did. Prolly cost him some coin though
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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #559 on: January 09, 2024, 11:42:40 AM »
So, question for Michigan fans.  This is obviously Harbaugh's preferred path, but do you think it's also Moore's?  Suppose Moore had complete free reign to design a game plan and call a game in any way he felt like.  Do you think it would open up more, or would he keep doing what he's doing? 

Such a good question. I lean towards it being a Harbaugh thing. After watching Moore take over the coaching when Harbaugh was out, i started thinking it was Moore too, but even though Moore was running the game, Jim was still dictating the plan leading up to the game. 

 

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