2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread

[LetsGoPeay]

Haven't heard that? Ware certainly could go to the NBA. Wasn't sure the rest of them had options like that.

Ware to the NBA. The others hitting the portal. Reneau is almost certainly going into the portal the second the season is over. 

[ELA]

Maryland just smashed OSU by 21 points in the first quarterfinal of the womens tourney.  So the winner of MSU-Nebraska gets #8 Maryland, instead of Big Ten champ OSU

[medinabuckeye1]

Every potential scenario for Ohio State:
The Buckeyes are 8-11/18-12 and play at Rutgers on Sunday (2pm, BTN).  The Buckeyes are currently 59 NET and 55 KenPom so getting to an at-large is a reach but, IMHO, it isn't impossible.  

Rutgers is and 92 NET and 87 KenPom so beating them isn't going to move the needle much but it will limit losses and add to win volume moving the Buckeyes to 9-11/19-12 heading to Minneapolis.  

With a win over Rutgers the Buckeyes will be 9-11/19-12 and their BTT seed will be:

The tiebreakers there are:

• T1:  PSU and tOSU split their series so it goes to record against the best team where tOSU wins based on their win over Purdue.  
• T2:  H2H2H is 3-1 for PSU (swept IU, split with tOSU), 2-2 for IU (swept tOSU, swept by PSU), and 1-3 for tOSU (split with PSU, swept by IU).  
• T3:  H2H2H is 3-1 for MN (swept PSU, split with tOSU), 2-2 for tOSU (split with both), and 1-3 for PSU (split with tOSU, swept by MN)
• T4:  H2H2H2H is 4-2 for IU (swept tOSU and MN, swept by PSU), 3-3 for both PSU and MN, and 2-4 for tOSU (split with PSU and MN, swept by IU).  
• T5:  H2H, tOSU was swept by IU.  
• T6:  MN and tOSU split their series so it goes to record against the best team where tOSU wins based on their win over Purdue.  
• T7:  H2H2H is 4-0 for IU (Swept both) and 1-3 for tOSU and MN (Swept by IU, split with each other).  tOSU and MN move on to record against the best team where tOSU wins based on their win over Purdue.  

With a loss in Piscataway the Buckeyes will be 8-12/18-13 and their BTT seed will be:

• #11 if PSU beats UMD:  RU and tOSU would tie for 11th and tOSU wins based on their win over Purdue.  
• #10 if UMD beats PSU:  RU, tOSU, PSU, and UMD would all tie for 10/11/12/13.  UMD and tOSU win that based on a H2H2H2H of 3-2 and tOSU beats UMD based on their win over Purdue.  

[medinabuckeye1]

Regarding the above for tOSU:
In my opinion the best-case-scenario for the Buckeyes would be either scenario #2 or scenario #4, those are:

• In scenario #2 the Buckeyes finish in a three way tie for 9th place with PSU and IU and lose the tiebreaker to get the #11 seed.  
• In scenario #4 the Buckeyes finish in a four-way tie for 8th place with PSU, IU, and MN and lose the tiebreaker to get the #11 seed.  

In either case the Buckeyes would open the B1G Tournament on Wednesday at 9pm against Michigan.  

With a win over Michigan on Wednesday the Buckeyes would play the #6 seed on Thursday at 9pm.  The #6 seed would most likely be either Iowa, Northwestern, or Michigan State.  

With a win over the #6 seed on Thursday the Buckeyes would play the #3 seed on Friday at 9pm.  The #3 seed would most likely be Nebraska.  

With a win over Nebraska on Friday the Buckeyes would play either #2, #7, or #10 on Saturday at 330.  This would most likely be #2 Illinois.  

With a win on Saturday the Buckeyes would play either #1, #4, #5, #8, #9, #12, or #13 in the CG on St. Patrick's Day at 330.  This would most likely be #1 Purdue.  

The Buckeyes would enter the B1G Tournament at 19-12 so their final record would be:

• 19-13 if they lost to Michigan on Wednesday - Clearly not enough, NIT Bound.  
• 20-13 if they lost to the #6 seed on Thursday - Probably not enough, NIT Bound.  
• 21-13 if they lost to Nebraska on Friday - I see this as at least 50/50.  
• 22-13 if they lost to Illinois on Saturday - I see this as likely in.  
• 23-13 if they lost to Purdue on Sunday - I see this as a near-lock.  
• 24-12 if they win the CG.  At this point they would be an auto-bid so the at-large discussion is moot.  

[ELA]

Nebraska doing as good a job shutting down the MSU offense as anyone I've seen all year

[medinabuckeye1]

Maryland just smashed OSU by 21 points in the first quarterfinal of the womens tourney.  So the winner of MSU-Nebraska gets #8 Maryland, instead of Big Ten champ OSU

I didn't watch the game but this was a really remarkable upset.  Not only was Ohio State the B1G Champion but they finished seven games ahead of Maryland (16-2 compared to 9-9).  In addition, Ohio State beat Maryland not once but twice earlier this season:

• By eight in College Park back in January
• By 13 in Columbus less than two weeks ago.  

Upsets happen but this wasn't some buzzer-beater one-possession win.  Ohio State won the first quarter 17-12 but Maryland doubled up the Buckeyes in the second quarter (26-13) in the process taking a lead that they would never relinquish and Maryland continued to walk away in the last two quarters with a five point advantage in the third and an eight point advantage in the fourth for a 21 point final advantage.  

Nebraska doing as good a job shutting down the MSU offense as anyone I've seen all year

#5 seed Nebraska is currently putting the finishing touches on their upset of #4 Michigan State.  Tomorrow the Buckeyes who went `16-2 to win the league and the Spartans who went 12-6 will be watching from home while the 11-7 Cornhuskers play the .500 Terps for the right to go to the CG on Sunday.  We'll find out tonight if the Hawkeyes and Hoosiers can avoid the fate of the other two double-bye teams.  

[medinabuckeye1]

We'll find out tonight if the Hawkeyes and Hoosiers can avoid the fate of the other two double-bye teams. 

Iowa blew out Penn State but Indiana lost so in total, three of the four teams that earned double byes by being the best teams in the league lost today:

• Ohio State by 21
• Indiana by 13
• Michigan State by 12

Iowa should be able to sleepwalk to the Tournament Championship with the remaining field consisting of:

• #2 seed Iowa
• #5 Nebraska 
• #6 Michigan 
• #8 Maryland 

[CatsbyAZ]

So, a day after it breaks that Mike Woodson is getting another year, his one and only recruit, 5* Liam McNeely decommits. Style of play and lack of communication from the coaching staff are reported as the reasons why. Woodson's laziness in recruiting is becoming more publicized. Last Wednesday was the first night of the state tournament for three of the best Indiana HS recruits. Purdue, Notre Dame, Iowa, and others all had presences in those gyms. No one from IU was seen. The future is looking tremendously bleak in Bloomington.

[bayareabadger]

Interesting bit of news. 

Southern Illinois canned its coach today. They went 19-13, 11-9 in conference, a dip from 23-1014-6 last year. They actually improved improved in the computer rankings. And all this happened after losing two studs in Marcus Domask (killing it at Illinois) and Lance Jones (a top-4 guy on Purdue's roster).

Hard out here in these coaching streets sometimes. 

[MaximumSam]

Interesting bit of news.

Southern Illinois canned its coach today. They went 19-13, 11-9 in conference, a dip from 23-1014-6 last year. They actually improved improved in the computer rankings. And all this happened after losing two studs in Marcus Domask (killing it at Illinois) and Lance Jones (a top-4 guy on Purdue's roster).

Hard out here in these coaching streets sometimes.

Kind of crazy - looked like their Torvik ranking was the highest they've had since 2008

[bayareabadger]

This almost every game is on Sunday thing, I find it weird and don't like it. 

[MaximumSam]

This almost every game is on Sunday thing, I find it weird and don't like it.

Yeah pretty random that all the last games are tomorrow. Though I don't think they anticipated that the women's championship would be far and away a better draw than any men's game.

[FearlessF]

Husker Men and Women play at 11am tomorrow

[MarqHusker]

Hoosier Hysteria....8500 for a regional.  Neutral site too.  1hr+ for both participants.  KU bound Flory Bidgunda and #4 Kokomo lost to #1 Fishers.